Who betrayed Anne Frank?

The last years of World War Two.

The Franks are Dutch Jews hiding behind a book-shelf in a two-room chamber, in a Dutch factory.
They've been here for two years.

Who betrayed them in 1944?

Well, it seems all evidence points to a member of the Jewish council, who gave up several addresses where Jews were hiding at the time.

It was not a Nazi or collaborator from the factory.

This had been known though long time, but hidden.

a reply to: halfoldman

This looks interesting can’t wait to watch this later

Who wrote the diary of Anne Frank? Did she even exist? Could it be another tale created to bolster the other fictions written after the war intended to demonize anyone who would dare challenge those who wish to rule the world?

There is a book we had to read in school "Das Leben der Anne Frank" "The life of Anne Frank" (English title might not be literal in translation).

I recommend it to everyone interested about the dynamics back then. It's a tough read though, for me it was because I read it at a time when WW2 was a big topic in history classes and seen some old footage of war.

For anyone further interested, there is an outstanding book series by Ralf Isau. Fictional. It's about the life of someone living from 1900-1999 and part of it handles WW1 and WW2 but factual and with little tidbits. In fact so good researched that my history teacher asked me twice if I have a family member relaying this to me it was so accurate.

The books have 700-900 pages in small print and one book is just about WW2 from the perspective of someone similar like Anne Frank. It goes through all the stages how it built up, how people reacted it's a masterpiece. Fictional story but real life information. Even places fit I checked when wikipedia became a thing.

Circle of the Dawn, I got it recommeded myself and read all five books in hospital.

originally posted by: REDMORGAN
Who wrote the diary of Anne Frank? Did she even exist? Could it be another tale created to bolster the other fictions written after the war intended to demonize anyone who would dare challenge those who wish to rule the world?

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Didn't they find out that it may have been a forgery, the Diary? Sacred cows... a reply to: halfoldman

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
There is a book we had to read in school "Das Leben der Anne Frank" "The life of Anne Frank" (English title might not be literal in translation).

I recommend it to everyone interested about the dynamics back then. It's a tough read though, for me it was because I read it at a time when WW2 was a big topic in history classes and seen some old footage of war.

For anyone further interested, there is an outstanding book series by Ralf Isau. Fictional. It's about the life of someone living from 1900-1999 and part of it handles WW1 and WW2 but factual and with little tidbits. In fact so good researched that my history teacher asked me twice if I have a family member relaying this to me it was so accurate.

The books have 700-900 pages in small print and one book is just about WW2 from the perspective of someone similar like Anne Frank. It goes through all the stages how it built up, how people reacted it's a masterpiece. Fictional story but real life information. Even places fit I checked when wikipedia became a thing.

Circle of the Dawn, I got it recommeded myself and read all five books in hospital.

What’s reading?

I’m jk thanks for the recommendations

Of course one can only imagine what pressure and torture these people were under.
One cannot judge their moral decisions in our time.

a reply to: halfoldman

"It's very simple: You tell us where they hide and you, your family and everyone downrange two generations will not have to go to the gas chambers"

It's them or all of your family. So yes you hit a valid point here, moral decisions, different time, death threats.

How soon until this country starts killing children whose parents aren't in line with government lock step??
Also pretty sure Ann's life and death in concentration camp is historical record.

a reply to: REDMORGAN

The four people that stared this bull# should be ashamed.

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: REDMORGAN

The four people that stared this bull# should be ashamed.

I agree.Revisionist history denying the 1 of 6 million deaths.Pathethec slobs
The real question the fascists here on ats SHOULD be asking is,How many Ann Frank's died in those camps..


Great thread BTW OP
Didn't mean to disrail.Hate obvious anti Semitic though

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: REDMORGAN

The four people that stared this bull# should be ashamed.

Groucho, Harpo, Zeppo, and Chico? What bull are you talking about?

I know mine is an unpopular opinion but anyone who diligently reads and studies on the subject comes up with questions that they are forbidden to ask. Why and how would that be? Aren't you curious why we are forbidden to discuss any version of events besides the one taught in school? To even suggest that things may not be as we were told will get angry reactions and hate toward anyone who dares say it.

I knew my grandparents and two of my great grandparents. They did not see the war the same way it has been portrayed.
BTW I'm 56 and Guns of Navorone rules. Maybe Kelly's Heros could rival or the Great Escape but make believe is still make believe.

originally posted by: REDMORGAN

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: REDMORGAN

The four people that stared this bull# should be ashamed.

Groucho, Harpo, Zeppo, and Chico? What bull are you talking about?

I know mine is an unpopular opinion but anyone who diligently reads and studies on the subject comes up with questions that they are forbidden to ask. Why and how would that be? Aren't you curious why we are forbidden to discuss any version of events besides the one taught in school? To even suggest that things may not be as we were told will get angry reactions and hate toward anyone who dares say it.

I knew my grandparents and two of my great grandparents. They did not see the war the same way it has been portrayed.
BTW I'm 56 and Guns of Navorone rules. Maybe Kelly's Heros could rival or the Great Escape but make believe is still make believe.

So how many NAZIS has your"family"produced mean herr??

a reply to: REDMORGAN

I am German, don't come at me from this side. I am schooled well enough in our own history and indeed have second hand knowledge handed down how my Grandparents lived through these times.

Among that I gained a lot of knowledge how Hitler could exploit the prejudice mid and lower class people developed towards Jews. Because they were religious exempt from dirty work (Salesmen etc) and that was not received well. And their sometimes not understandable mindset when it comes about trades.

Some regions it started earlier, some regions had no Jews. But there were people dragged away from our town, some directly shot in front of the Church. Mostly "imbeciles" or disabled ones here, as they were subject to the cleaning too.

The bullet holes never got fixed as a reminder. Sure I can not prove that she lived, neither can you she did not or who or who not wrote that book. And it really does not matter. Because the times back then were terrible like that, betrayal, was there.

Only a few isolated regions didn't knew about the concentration camps. They were not called like this back then. I was there, in Dachau and Auschwitz. People knew they were brought to somewhere but only later when those cleanings were undertaken, people got the idea well maybe there are no camps at all but all are dead.

This is the misconception carried into the future and picked up by misinformed people like you, who then have the audacity to come onto online boards and question the holocaust or if that book is fake or not.

Get a grip, you are disgusting me.

And who betrayed the homosexuals?
After all the Weimar Republic was proto-lgbt rights.
But then it all changed.

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

Good good. I'm pleased to disgust you. Perhaps you will read more now so you can show how wrong and disgusting I am.

a reply to: REDMORGAN

Here's another idea.

# off nazi.

Banned.