New CDC study states natural immunity was superior to vaccines for protection from Delta

a reply to: Madviking

It's more like an "ignoring" of Natural Immunity due to Covid-19 recovery. Aside for a couple of key people at FoxNews, you never hear the experts or pundits or anchors on CNN/MSNBC/CBS/ABC/NBC, etc.. discuss Natural Immunity.

Are there any hospital statistics on how many people treated in-patient for Covid-19, are Covid-19 recoverees from a prior bout?

AS OF TODAY, the CDC has stopped saying Covid-19 reinfections are "RARE".

Updated CDC Webpage: www.cdc.gov...

Now that over 60 million people have recovered, it undermines the vaccine/booster push, to say that many Americans have strong, long-lasting Covid-19 Antibodies.

Well right, admitting that 10's of millions of people have recovered from Covid and have reasonable protection does not sell them some lucrative vaccines, nor does it allow them to continue to control people through Covid policies. a reply to: carewemust

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
Natural immunity has always been superior.

The vaxx creates 1 antibody, natural immunity creates over 20 antibodies as well as t cell immunity which by itself is arguably better than b cell antibodies.

Its common sense that natural immunity is far superior. The vaxx was garbage to begin with anyway.

Yeah, I know. For some reason people seem to think that the human immune system fights off Covid by releasing a couple of proteins. That's all the vaccines do, is release a couple of proteins.

The human immune system is far more complex (Thank Goddess) than 1 or 2 proteins to kill a virus.

And I agree with the research. After acquiring natural immunity to Alpha and other variations, I was a little worried about Delta strain seeing the news in India and what happened.

But I figured that I needed to build immunity to Delta strain too, so I quit wearing masks before Delta hit the U.S.

I was pleasantly surprised that after catching Delta, that my immune system fought it off with ease. Maybe 2 days and it was over. Wasn't difficult to fight off Delta Plus either. Less than a week.

So I concur with the research that previous acquired immunity to Covid offered much better protection to Delta. Delta was a breeze.

originally posted by: ketsuko
We can go even deeper. Depending on how your vaccine is made, the immunity produced will vary in effectiveness too. Vaccines made with whole virus will produce a better immune response than those made with only partial virus. So it stands to reason that the COVIS vax would not necessarily be great.

Unless the 'vaccine' is administered in the exact same way that natural infection occurs, it can never, ever come close to naturally acquired immunity.

Injecting something directly into tissue is not how our immune system is designed to work. PERIOD.

a reply to: tanstaafl

Except vaccines are almost universally administered this way and they do in fact work. Administration has nothing to do with it.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: tanstaafl

Except vaccines are almost universally administered this way and they do in fact work. Administration has nothing to do with it.

It's not a "vaccine."

It doesn't work.

It's causes millions of severe side effects and countless deaths.

Administration has nothing to do with it? Do you know what aspiration is?

No.

Wrong.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Repeating something over and over doesn't make it any more true. The vaccine does work, exceptionally well, it just doesn't work against a virus it was not created for, like every other vaccine. It was never created for Omicron.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: tanstaafl

Except vaccines are almost universally administered this way

Yes

and they do in fact work.

To an extent, maybe some of them work, but some of them actually cause the disease they are supposed to be preventing (polio vaccine for example).

Administration has nothing to do with it.

Pretty ignorant/arrogant thing to say, since it totally dismisses the fact that the immune system doesn't work that way.

originally posted by: tanstaafl
Pretty ignorant/arrogant thing to say, since it totally dismisses the fact that the immune system doesn't work that way.

Yes, it does. What do you think vaccines do, they trigger the immune system.

To an extent, maybe some of them work, but some of them actually cause the disease they are supposed to be preventing (polio vaccine for example).

Only the live vaccine version, and that's because it's a live vaccine. And saying it causes the disease is incorrect, it CAN cause the disease ... because it's the actual polio virus they are using, a modified weakened version, but still live actual polio.

Want to know which vaccine does NOT cause polio? The one used in the US that is injectable (you know, the kind you say doesn't work).

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
in reply to: tanstaafl

What do you think vaccines do, they trigger the immune system.

They do so in a way that is not natural - injecting toxic substances directly into the tissue.

so to suggest that they will have even remotely the same result is - as I said - just plain ignorant/arrogant.

a reply to: tanstaafl

False and a complete lie, they do so in a way that is completely natural. Are you saying when you get a splinter and your body fights off the infection and makes antibodies that is not natural?

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: tanstaafl

False and a complete lie, they do so in a way that is completely natural. Are you saying when you get a splinter and your body fights off the infection and makes antibodies that is not natural?

Are you seriously suggesting that the process of the body fighting a bacterial infection caused by the introduction of bacteria into damaged tissue is the same process as fighting off a virus acquired by exposure via the air/respiratory canals?

There are no[/y] vaccines for bacterial infections.

Again - ignorance/arrogance.