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ECHR Deems Gay Cake Case Inadmissible.

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posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: incoserv




I don't beleve you! I don't believe that anyone has ever "forced" Christian beliefs on you. Prove me wrong!


Have you forgotten this...? "Conversion Therapy"



www.churchmilitant.com...

www.radiox.co.uk...
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posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 10:40 AM
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Maybe someone should find a bakery owned by a gay couple, or even just liberals, and ask them to bake a Trump 2024 cake. Y'know, just to see if they would. Then, it they refused, take'em to court and see if you get similar results.



posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 10:40 AM
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originally posted by: UpThenDown
a reply to: DeathSlayer

How shall i help my niece and her girlfriend, what can I do to assist them become mentally well again?

They both have great jobs and own their own home and both drive but from what you say they both have a screw loose, do you think they can be cured?


My apologise UtD, it embarrasses me no end when some who call themselves Christian are hurtful and hateful, force their opinions, it’s not who Jesus called them to be.
In fact, be worse for them one day I fear



posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 10:44 AM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Fryguy
a reply to: Granitebones

Because actual fascists want to force their worldview on others. It's literally as simple as that.



Yet the Christians are forcing their views on others as well, not exactly Christian is it?


Not really, as nobody forced them to go to the Baker, they chose to do so, and could have chosen another Baker.

It's like saying that you were forced to wear a revealing swimsuit, when it's the one that you brought with you to the pool and they tell you that you can't wear outdoor clothing poolside.



posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 10:46 AM
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originally posted by: Necrobile
Maybe someone should find a bakery owned by a gay couple, or even just liberals, and ask them to bake a Trump 2024 cake. Y'know, just to see if they would. Then, it they refused, take'em to court and see if you get similar results.


Politics arena protected characteristic. You can refuse service to someone in a MAGA hat quite legally. Same if they were wearing a Clinton g string.



posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: The2Billies

He means they force others to allow them their freedom of religion in the hopes of themselves being free of said religion... lol

Jaden



posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 12:11 PM
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You seem to judge someone based on what someone owns? This is materialism.

Most homosexuals hate religion, especially the Christian Bible because they know what God said concerning homosexuality and understand they must give up this sin, if they want to inherit heaven, again most homosexuals are either atheists, at best agnostic.

However rarely a homosexual is Christian and they RESTRAIN their urges and suffer their whole life by sustaining from homosexual urges in the hope of living with God.

It's a spiritual thing....

Step 1. Stop fornication.

Step 2. Stop homosexual urges. Control lust driven homosexuality.

Step 3. Control lusts driven thoughts through prayers

It's the same for all sins. A battle between the spirit and the flesh.


originally posted by: UpThenDown
a reply to: DeathSlayer

How shall i help my niece and her girlfriend, what can I do to assist them become mentally well again?

They both have great jobs and own their own home and both drive but from what you say they both have a screw loose, do you think they can be cured?



posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 12:23 PM
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I do not support any sin, including homosexuality.

I do not lie about any sin.

I tell all sinners, to stop sinning.

If a sinner refuses to change I do not have anything to do with them. We are taught to separate ourselves from sinners.

In both old and NT we are told who will not inherit God's kingdom.

If you are Christian you should know this.

Supporting a sinner will NEVER help the person to change.

You sound like a fake Christian or embarrassed to speak out about sin. If you want to help, then speak out....to help one renounce the sin and not to support sin.

a reply to: Raggedyman


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posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 12:36 PM
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Would this chap go to a Muslim Bakers and insist they bake him such a cake?

Seems like a witch hunt focussed upon Christians. Interesting piece here:

www.washingtontimes.com...

I think it was Nicholas Soames MP who said he had nothing against Gays "so long as they don't ram it down your throat".



posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 12:42 PM
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Any Christian who supports homosexuality is NOT Christian.


originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
Would this chap go to a Muslim Bakers and insist they bake him such a cake?

Seems like a witch hunt focussed upon Christians. Interesting piece here:

www.washingtontimes.com...

I think it was Nicholas Soames MP who said he had nothing against Gays "so long as they don't ram it down your throat".




posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 12:52 PM
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originally posted by: DeathSlayer
Any Christian who supports homosexuality is NOT Christian.


originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
Would this chap go to a Muslim Bakers and insist they bake him such a cake?

Seems like a witch hunt focussed upon Christians. Interesting piece here:

www.washingtontimes.com...

I think it was Nicholas Soames MP who said he had nothing against Gays "so long as they don't ram it down your throat".



Any real Christian knows...

Matthew 7:1
“Judge not, that ye be not judged.”

At one time my spiritual arrogance got in the way of my Christianity as well as my hypocrisy.
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posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 12:58 PM
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originally posted by: UpThenDown
a reply to: DeathSlayer

How shall i help my niece and her girlfriend, what can I do to assist them become mentally well again?

They both have great jobs and own their own home and both drive but from what you say they both have a screw loose, do you think they can be cured?
Good jobs or not,they are still perverts.
Part of the multi-degeneracy,multi-ethnic,multi-cultural attempt to destroy western society.



posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 01:00 PM
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I am not judging. Do not be confused. I speak what is in the Bible.

My hope is that everyone know what the Bible says about sin.

I judge no one. I believe what the Bible teaches and I try to lead those who are lost while living in sin.


originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
Any Christian who supports homosexuality is NOT Christian.


originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
Would this chap go to a Muslim Bakers and insist they bake him such a cake?

Seems like a witch hunt focussed upon Christians. Interesting piece here:

www.washingtontimes.com...

I think it was Nicholas Soames MP who said he had nothing against Gays "so long as they don't ram it down your throat".



Any real Christian knows...

Matthew 7:1
“Judge not, that ye be not judged.”

At one time my arrogance got in the way of my Christianity as well as my hypocrisy.



posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 01:52 PM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

well i guess i have more in common with my niece than i knew as i am an atheist

Religion does not control all of the opulation IMO and a lot of straight people are not Christian, I dont think who people want to fornicate with is based on anything other than lust these days. Who cares what others do in the privacy of there homes

I do find it odd though that so many religious institutes have had some form of sexual misconduct allegations/proven crimes against them.

Is it ok for Straight Christians to have sex outside of marriage?



posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 01:57 PM
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a reply to: glen200376

Lol, ok pal

go back to your "i am better than you life" try not to judge people you know nothing about, how very Christian of you

So anything other than straight white is a degenerate? sure sure, such a poor attitude you have there



posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 01:58 PM
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originally posted by: Granitebones
This is not a story about a case containing a cake being gay. This is the saga of a Belfast Bakery that refused to bake a cake with a gay rights (pertaining in particular to gay marriage) slogan on the grounds that it went against the owners Christian beliefs to produce a product in support of that particular cause.
The Belfast Court found in favour of the man requesting the cake and the decision was then upheld on appeal to the Lower Court but was then overturned by the Superior Court. The European Court Of Human Rights ECHR has ruled the case Inadmissible as not all domestic options have been explored.
A number of questions occur such as why not just go to a Baker that did not object? And, How might this have gone if a Baker that was an adherent to another faith with similar principles refused to bake the same cake on religious grounds?
www.bbc.co.uk...


So much for that stereotype that homosexuals are confectionary geniuses.



posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 02:19 PM
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Christianity has nothing to do with control. Roman Catholics yes, but they are not Christians.

Christianity forces no one to accept Christ. Either you do or you don't.

I knew you were not Christian based on your questions. Easy to see.

Any married adult who has sex outside the marriage is an adulterous. The Only sin where divorce is acceptable. However if that person renounces that sin and ask God for forgiveness through Christ, that person is forgiven and will no longer commit this sin.

Any single adult who has sex is a fornicator.

It is all about temptation.

Your niece is a fornicator and a homosexual. Two common sins today.




originally posted by: UpThenDown
a reply to: DeathSlayer

well i guess i have more in common with my niece than i knew as i am an atheist

Religion does not control all of the opulation IMO and a lot of straight people are not Christian, I dont think who people want to fornicate with is based on anything other than lust these days. Who cares what others do in the privacy of there homes

I do find it odd though that so many religious institutes have had some form of sexual misconduct allegations/proven crimes against them.

Is it ok for Straight Christians to have sex outside of marriage?

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posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

"Christianity forces no one to accept Christ. Either you do or you don't."

Except for the Hell thing, mind.



posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 02:24 PM
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Amen


originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: DeathSlayer

"Christianity forces no one to accept Christ. Either you do or you don't."

Except for the Hell thing, mind.



posted on Jan, 6 2022 @ 02:40 PM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer





I am not judging. Do not be confused. I speak what is in the Bible.

My hope is that everyone know what the Bible says about sin.

I judge no one. I believe what the Bible teaches and I try to lead those who are lost


I think your Bible teaching trying to lead the lost souls would be more effective if it wasn't wrapped up in pride, spiritual arrogance and condemnation. Just my opinion.

“Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” John 8:7



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