Moon Mystery House/ Mystery Hut/ Cube: Secret Buildings in Background of the Photo

originally posted by: ARM1968
Well, yes, the cube is slightly more defined. However we need better, closer pictures to simply remove the guesswork, artefacts and imagination. Shouldn’t be too hard. If it’s just a rock we should get images soon. If it’s not a rock, those you have now might be the best we ever get. a reply to: JamesChessman

Well this topic is really more secretive than I realized at first. There's really only been 2 photos released: The landscape shot that this thread is focused on, plus a close-up shot... which seems to have its background completely cropped out and filled with solid dark color.

This was a surprise because I thought the close-up shot would be amazing to brighten up. Instead, everything has been cropped out and filled with solid color.

Here is a smaller, lower res version (because that's what is needed to be able to embed in the forum). I brightened it and it seems quite obvious that the background has been cut out:



^It doesn't even show the left side of the Mystery Hut, which is clearly visible when I brighten the landscape shot:




So yes, I sure hope that the Chinese space agency is more forthcoming in the future, about this. Unfortunately I'm realizing that it's all much more under-wraps than I realized initially.

The promising part is that the landscape shot would seem to be giving away the secret imagery, in a deliberate way. But then the 2nd shot, the close-up, is the opposite. (Although, maybe the background crop and fill-in was meant to be obvious, to prompt us to look more at the landscape shot with the imagery still intact.)

I am slightly optimistic though, because I think the landscape shot is showing us the secret images, on purpose.

originally posted by: ARM1968
Has anyone ever mentioned that the rock you show on the moon with the astronaut in shadow beneath it looks and awful lot like he is standing in the gaping mouth of a snake? The rock even has eyes. Weird what you see in things.

Awesome, I didn't realize it until you said it!

This seems the highest res version of that image:
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And um... I downloaded it, and randomly tried to upload it to ATS, and um... well I've been saying all along that the forum can't upload / embed hi-res images.

But apparently I've been wrong, lol. It's been about a year since I was last doing this, and apparently the forum has changed this feature, and it now DOES allow us to embed hi-res images.

Here's the image at 1,600 x 1,280:



It looks like a giant snake head sculpture, absolutely. It seems to have eyes, nostrils, the general shape of a snake head (flat top and angular shape), a vertical line in the middle of its snout, and a wide open mouth grin.

The right side eye even seems to show a shiny pupil within the oval eye shape (which might actually resemble a human eye more than a snake eye).

I gave it a shot for some quick brightening / color manipulation. This is actually good context for the rest of the conversation.

Brightened up, this image actually shows obvious compression artifacts everywhere. They are the weird square distortions across the entire image. The artifacts are obvious, and it's NOT what we see in the thread's topic photo that I brightened up.

But even then, we don't see random geometric shapes emerge from the background. The obvious artifacts are there, and they don't cause building shapes in the background.

It doesn't brighten up very nicely but I think the snake-head shaped rock is slightly more clear. There might be a shiny fang on the bottom, maybe, or just a shiny rock in the place that we'd expect a fang. The throat has curved lines that seem to fit the curve of its throat.

Also the colors might be screwed up in the entire shot, maybe the overly bright sun is destroying the colors. But also, there just might be a slight red color in the mouth, and a slight green color on the skin. Maybe.





^Colors are oversaturated but it's still the original colors that are there, just oversaturated. Again, it might just be that the sun was destroying the colors, but it also just might be snake coloring...

Compression artefacts doesnt appear from nothing unless picture is super heavy compressed, so I must say yes those shapes are result of compression but there was something which caused them. If it was nothing they would be just random squares.

originally posted by: ARM1968
Has anyone ever mentioned that the rock you show on the moon with the astronaut in shadow beneath it looks and awful lot like he is standing in the gaping mouth of a snake? The rock even has eyes. Weird what you see in things.

If you look for large square rocks there are many here on earth that sit alone just like that too.

Yes guessing is useless Learned that a long time ago!

And there was me thinking that the Chinese had just stumbled across proof of Apollo 19.

Dunno if that’s a real one but there are plenty online

originally posted by: AlexandrosTheGreat

Dunno if that’s a real one but there are plenty online

Nice post. I do think that vid is probably real. (Either that or a very elaborate, very convincing CGI, but I lean toward it actually being real.)

I think I can spot CGI better than most, and I spent a long time looking at that video (a couple years ago), and I could not find any sign of it being fake. It looks weird because it's a bizarre scene, but I thought that the light rays and shadows seem to line up right.

People have argued that the shadows are wrong, but I spent a long time on that, and everything looks correct to me. The shadows jump around a bit, because they are covering UNEVEN geography, so that makes perfect sense. (Shadows do move differently on different geography, so here, the shadows would move differently on flat ground, or slanted ground, or different altitudes, not to mention that craters and rocks would cause dramatic movements in the shadows passing over.)

I considered making a vid about that case at some point, but I never got around to it, especially that my desktop iMac was broken down for a huge portion of this year.

No doubt just a coincidence that nasa are currently talking to the clergy to about how folk might handle disclosure. Maybe now that China are on the moon, nasa know that they can no longer control the narrative.

a reply to: JamesChessman
I remember months back Hoagland and someone else completely separate had talked about "Disclosure" happening directly as a result of China now having the evidence of lost civilization on Mars/The moon due to their rovers/satellites.

Essentially saying to the US "You've known for decades and you either tell them or we will". Which I find rather interesting as this was suddenly dropped by China. Add in Nasa doing Brookings 2.0 with "clergy" and there may be a grain of truth to all that.

I doubted it at the time as China seemingly would love to get one over on us but in reality "politics" is all theater and the billionaire class control our society, not Nation States imo.

Any other angles? Not shading just curious

Looks like the OP is a product of an overactive imagination. Its a large rock on the rim of a crater.

Leonard David's INSIDE OUTER SPACE

a reply to: JamesChessman

A pro-tip is that real professionals would not be name-calling like 5-year olds. Real professionals would be professional.

i can be professional towards someone with good intentions that tries their best to educate themselves - at that point i will share my knowledge to the extend possible.

when i see an ass with thread history showing clearly it's not the first time said person posts an absolute BS of a photo claim, linked to their youtube channel (meaning said person is an attention-seeking wannabe youtuber), i react in kind.

and that's just the most subtle thing that can be said about your behaviour. you're acting like you know it all, anyone throwing FACTS in your face, proving that you DO NOT understand the topic at hand, that you have NO IDEA what you're doing, is getting ridiculed by you, while you twist their words (unless you really cannot read, then go back to elementary school) and act like you're on a high horse.

high horse of utter stupidity, ignorance and trolling.

there's one thing i hate more than stupidity, and that's spreading disinformation ON PURPOSE. and that's what it looks like you're doing here. since this community sadly tolerates people like you, our reputation in the wild is what it is - less tech-savvy people get fooled, while those intelligent enough see right through your (and other people like you) BS, ridiculing the whole UFO community in the process.

you're doing a disservice to ATS.

and let's just say i was working with adobe premiere, video toaster and lightwave 3d before quite a few of ATS members were even born. i'm also a programmer, so it's not just that i know how compression artifacts look like, i know why they're a thing in the first place (lossy compression removes DCT coefficients from each macroblock based on a perceptual model, so at first it removes only the detail that shouldn't be visible when the image is displayed at properly calibrated screen - as the compression ratio goes up though, more and more data gets cut off, and in extreme cases like yours, adjacent macroblocks end up having their average brightness/color changed by different amounts, leading to visible macroblock edges, also known as compression artifacts. in case of video streams deblocking filter at decompression stage is common, but it can only do so much. also, it blurs the macroblock edges, so in case of a stream like this, you would rather want it disabled so you can see the unaltered video feed, since it's purpose was just to show the rover operators where it's going, they can always capture high resolution photos when they want to.).

a reply to: JamesChessman

The artifacts are 100% NOT created by me. I only brightened the image to make it more obvious, what's already there.

the compression artifacts that were already there.

Brightening colors doesn't create artifacts.

no, it makes them more visible, since they're the result of image (or in this case, video) compression using a perceptual model, that is hiding the compression artifacts in plain sight. go, read about display calibration and gamma curves. at properly calibrated display such compression artifacts shouldn't be visible (they actually are in this case, due to too heavy compression ratio, but that's beside the point), but when you alter the brightness, you screw up the gamma curve and artifacts that were hidden by the perceptual model, become visible. doesn't make them anything else than compression artifacts though.

Plus: If you look carefully at the original published image, you can see the same exact imagery in the background.

it's not "imagery", those are compression artifacts.

if you wanna have any sort of positive reputation here, just give up and admit you were wrong. so far you're just digging a hole for yourself, one that you'll never be able to crawl back from.

No i dont get it...
Lol
a reply to: Fatboy527

And there was me thinking that the Chinese had just stumbled across proof of Apollo 19.

originally posted by: Skyhigh00
a reply to: JamesChessman
I remember months back Hoagland and someone else completely separate had talked about "Disclosure" happening directly as a result of China now having the evidence of lost civilization on Mars/The moon due to their rovers/satellites.

Essentially saying to the US "You've known for decades and you either tell them or we will".

Intel being power, wouldn’t China be more likely to try and leverage any proof they had that the US has known for years?

They could make demands - favourable trade terms etc - or else they show the west that their leaders have been lying to them for over 50 years (maybe ver 80 if ‘moon proof’ makes roswell far more plausible).

I don’t see China releasing the Intel for the good of mankind. Rather they’d use it to become a principle player in the club they’ve been excluded from for centuries.

But it’s time sensitive, since China would know that the west’s counter move would be to try and disclose the evidence themselves first, having manufactured a plausible narrative for needing to have kept this from the public all this time (assuming there isn’t an authentic reason for the secrecy being in the public’s best interest). Most likely reason, as always is that information is power and there was no profit to be made in disseminating their secrets.

originally posted by: McGinty

originally posted by: Skyhigh00
a reply to: JamesChessman
I remember months back Hoagland and someone else completely separate had talked about "Disclosure" happening directly as a result of China now having the evidence of lost civilization on Mars/The moon due to their rovers/satellites.

Essentially saying to the US "You've known for decades and you either tell them or we will".

Intel being power, wouldn’t China be more likely to try and leverage any proof they had that the US has known for years?

They could make demands - favourable trade terms etc - or else they show the west that their leaders have been lying to them for over 50 years (maybe ver 80 if ‘moon proof’ makes roswell far more plausible).

I don’t see China releasing the Intel for the good of mankind. Rather they’d use it to become a principle player in the club they’ve been excluded from for centuries.

But it’s time sensitive, since China would know that the west’s counter move would be to try and disclose the evidence themselves first, having manufactured a plausible narrative for needing to have kept this from the public all this time (assuming there isn’t an authentic reason for the secrecy being in the public’s best interest). Most likely reason, as always is that information is power and there was no profit to be made in disseminating their secrets.

China wouldn't negotiate.

if anything, they would disclose everything they've found for the sole purpose of trying to destroy the western world by damaging religion. damaging the reputation of US government would be just an added bonus.

i honestly doubt they didn't know as much as US government though. they have their spies, and they had several decades to find out what's going on.

a reply to: jedi_hamster

Isn’t it contradictory to say that China has had several decades to spy on the US so they already know what the US knows, as well as saying China would disclose what they know to destroy the west?

If the first part is true, then why didn’t they disclose?

Never let the enemy know what you know about them unless it profits you. Whatever China may know about aliens it hasn’t been seen as worth disclosing yet. Perhaps there’s more profit in using that info as leverage. At least up to now!

Nasa working with the clergy might suggest that the US fear that is about to change.

originally posted by: Nickn3
It Jimmy Buffet’s hidden Beach House on the Moon.

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he has a correction to one song for that too

"Changes in Altitudes changes in Attitude" is the new line I believe.

Roger Waters claimed the Dard side of the moon was as a "matter of fact, it's all dark". That just might have a Rel like interpretation.