Moon Mystery House/ Mystery Hut/ Cube: Secret Buildings in Background of the Photo

originally posted by: JamesChessman

originally posted by: jedi_hamster
a reply to: JamesChessman

Beyond all that, it's possible that your version wasn't even available online yet, when I made the thread...

And also, it's possible that it was already uploaded online, but for whatever reason, that version image just didn't turn up when I was image-searching, at the time.

it's also possible, or rather almost certain, that you're either a liar, an ignorant troll, or both.

And beyond all that, what's the point dude, lol.

the point is to prove beyond any doubt that:
- you have no idea what you're talking about
- you're either stupid or trolling, in which case you're also stupid
- you have absolutely zero credibility

i respect people and movements searching for the truth too much to have any respect whatsoever for opportunist motherf... that try to hijack UFO subject because they can't stop being attention whores.

Well now, you've run out of pretending to have anything to talk about, and it's all name-calling like a 5-year old.

Thanks for the contributions to the thread lol. But I was hoping you'd specify which file type was best out of the several choices that I'm given in Preview, I can save images as PNG but why not the other handful of choices? Hmm?

what makes you think you have any sort of knowledge or qualifications for the analysis of lunar photos, which this thread is about, if you don't even know the answer to such a basic question? do you know anything at all, or were you just toying with brightness, saw crap and decided to run with it? ATS readers aren't that dumb.

jpeg is usually lossy, png is not. modern browsers support webp as well, but as far as compatibility goes, when it comes to lossless pictures that can be displayed within a browser, png is the safest choice.

the fact you don't know this only shows that you likely didn't edit a single photo before.

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PRESENT YOUR FACTS AND DISCUSS THE TOPIC, NOT EACH OTHER.

YOU WILL BE POST BANNED !!!

Carry On.

originally posted by: AcerM
a reply to: JamesChessman

What we need, someone to take photos of buildings on dark background and test how it compress and compare that to photo of plain background when compressed.

^I don't think we need that... lol.



Here's a better way to think about it, imo:

If we imagine being on Earth, in a desert, at night, with nothing around, and we took a pic of the desert around us... what would we expect to see, in the dark background of the photo? If there was nothing there, then we'd expect to see NOTHING in the dark sky.

And so, in that hypothetical photo from the nighttime desert: If it showed the random geometric shapes and colors, seen in the topic photo: What would we think?

Answer: We'd probably think that we caught some faint dark buildings, that our eyes just didn't see, in the dark, when we snapped the pic.

...In other words, in an Earthly pic, I think the topic photo's imagery, would be automatically considered to be buildings, just by their shape, and just because we already have buildings on Earth. Hmm.




*** So I believe that's how we should interpret the topic photo. If we acknowledge... the VERY REAL... PHYSICAL POSSIBILITY... of buildings simply existing on the moon: Then it should be automatic to assume that the photo is showing buildings.





And there's NOTHING that's... PHYSICALLY impossible, about buildings on the moon!

Because we've already landed humans on the moon, and rovers, satellites, etc.

It means that: Humans have long-ago accomplished: The basic PHYSICAL REQUIREMENTS, behind creating buildings there, i.e. WE HAVE LANDED PEOPLE AND MACHINES, ON THE MOON.

It's literally the ONLY things needed, to create buildings: People, and machines for them to use.








Now, THAT being proven in 1969 -- that it's completely physically possible (to land people, and machines, there):

The world's governments have had all these decades... to quietly send more people and machines there, IF they really wanted to!





Therefore:

IF any governments... really WANTED to do that -- to secretly send more astronauts and more machines there -- then... THEY WOULD HAVE ALREADY DONE IT. PROBABLY MANY YEARS AGO.

JUST BECAUSE IT'S PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE.

And all it would take, to really happen, would be one government MAKING THE DECISION TO DO IT.

(From there, it's only a matter of pouring money and time into the secret project... until it would eventually be successful, if it had unlimited resources behind it, then it WOULD happen.)




***And so, it's really a FACT of life, that some secret government projects, must have created buildings there, in the past 53 years. (If they wanted to.)



I wouldn't want to guess WHICH governments would have actually done it, but maybe it's ALL the governments, working together.

Maybe they're all working together on such secret projects, the same way that the ISS has the world's governments working together.

It's a nice idealistic way to imagine it.









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In conclusion, it's NOT A BIG DEAL to conclude that the topic photo shows buildings, in terms of physical capabilities, the world has been physically capable of making buildings there, since 1969, if they really wanted to.

So it shouldn't be a big deal for everyone to just relax lol, and acknowledge that we have this amazing photograph showing a lunar set of buildings.

It only seems like such a surprise because it's the first time that there's been a photo like this, published for the public to see and analyze.

But now we should be past that initial surprise and shock.

China chose to share this excellent lunar photograph with the public, throughout the world, including that they wanted to bless us with the background imagery. Because China CHOSE to SHARE the knowledge with the whole world, and to teach us something new.





So at the end of the day: I feel grateful to China; I'm grateful for their DELIBERATE CHOICE to bless the world with this image.






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Myself, I just find myself in a very unexpected place in this big picture, lol!!



I have always held a lot of genuine interest in space exploration, and space photography. (Everyone does when they're a small kid, I think, right?)




So my natural personal interest in space exploration & photography, is essentially what got me here, in this very unexpected position, right now.

My natural interest is why I looked for the best version of the pic, & downloaded & brightened it.



And then I shared to YT because it's my personal hobby these last few years, to make videos about my genuine interests.



So I got that far, just carried by natural interest, and nothing more.




So it's a very strange surprise to realize lately that I seem the only person to actually do this, to brighten up the image, and publish it online.

I wasn't trying to be the only person to do it, and I really had NOT thought of it in such terms, at all.

So it's quite a surprise to find myself (as the only person to do that)... and I'm only NOW realizing that, after already doing it lol.




In other words, it's quite the amazing surprise, to find myself the only person to do something... without the GOAL of being the only one to do it.



(Really, I would have expected several others to already have done the same exact thing, before I did it. I didn't post about it until a few weeks after China published the pics, so there were a few weeks for any number of people to do it first, lol. My real surprise is that no one else seems to have done this, already, as I'd have expected.)


*** It's self-evident that: China's space agency was fully aware of the image contents, before release.

So people out there, certainly DID know of the imagery, and then they chose to release it to the public.




...However, I find myself the only person to actually bridge that gap, of brightening & publishing the hidden buildings to the public web.


...


Btw: My layman experience with photo editing / photo manipulation... really only comes from being a fan of the most beautiful model ever. I found her online around 2008 / 2009, and I've been collected photo's of her modeling, ever since then.

It's literally the reason that I learned anything about photo editing in the first place.

Because right away, she had pics that I wished were slightly brighter.

So boom, next thing I was brightening her photo's with freely-available software.




...If anyone wants me to post a pic of her, just ask and I will.




She is not only the most beautiful model ever, but ALSO, she is the reason that I first learned about brightening photo's and manipulating colors.

So she is an important part of the factors that came together here, lol, to find myself as the unintentional person to break the hidden images to the world.




I don't feel proud of it, because it wasn't my intention to be the only person to do it. I did it while expecting that others probably already did the same thing before me.

Really I just feel like I'm in a strange dream, lol, or a strange TV show like Twilight Zone.

originally posted by: imdfreek
Try copying this into your browser mate

r.search.yahoo.com...=Awr9KKyEts9htXEAQxvpQyE5;_ylu=Y29sbwNncTEEcG9zAzEEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1641031429/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.marsan omalyresearch.com%2f/RK=2/RS=Yclda6HDSmSjFabM1IlAPWEqDvE-

a reply to: JamesChessman

Thanks but you posted a broken link, that doesn't work. Please try again?

Btw the main reason I can't understand that one webpage better -- the blog which embedded the destroyed versions of the pics -- is because MOST of the text is in an Asian language, that doesn't seem capable of being auto-translated by Google Chrome, my favorite web browser.



And that's because... I've known for years, that there is said to be a language-gap, between the internet used by the "Western world" and the "Eastern world." (These terms are not perfect terms, but they're well-known, & well-understood to basically distinguish each half of the world.)

So I've heard that for many years. That "Eastern" languages are so drastically DIFFERENT from "Western" languages, that apparently, it's practically impossible to run auto-translations (between Asian text and Western languages).



So THAT seems the reason here, probably, that I can't understand that one website better (as a blog published in Asian text).




Chrome can't auto-translate most of it, apparently.

Chrome can only translate a small bit, and the majority remains as Asian characters, that I can't do anything with.




So in the big picture: The translation gap has effectively created two SEPARATE internets, which can't really interact with each other, for the most part.

(I've heard this said for many years, but right now is the first time that I've really come across it, myself, like this.)






So yeah, that's why I asked if anyone could help me understand that Asian blog website better.

All it would take would be one person who can read the written Asian characters there.






Until someone may help with that, I am very much unaware of what that blog website really is, and what its contents are. I have no idea.





I've also always found it amazing, that there exists such an insurmountable translation gap... but apparently the East / West lang. difference is just that thoroughly different.

In contrast, apparently, web browsers are quite capable of auto-translating the various languages WITHIN each hemisphere.

So for example, it should be easy to auto-translate between English, and Spanish, French, Italian, etc.

And likewise, it's apparently easy to auto-translate between written characters of Chinese, Japanese, and any other Asian written languages.



That's the general understanding of it, anyway, that I've heard explained that way, over the years.

Bugga. My apologies mate. I just typed in Mars Anomalies Research Home Page. In one of his sections is stuff on moon anomalies and man there is some fascinating info. Let me know if you have a win, if not I'm sorry to stuff you about. I'm not very good at the techy side of life.PS happy new year mate to you and yours


a reply to: JamesChessman

Hey check this out its rather in depth and just as fascinating. Its from the Clementine space mission in the late 90s. This amazing man has a lot of knowledge unfortunately he is no longer with us, which is sad because he knows his stuff. It shows a large cube/ building/ structure on the far side of our moon.
www.marsanomalyresearch.com...

reply to: JamesChessman

Try this one good sira reply to: JamesChessman

www.marsanomalyresearch.com...



a reply to: JamesChessman

Applying some Gaussian processing, like COAC... , on this terrible low resolution image, There appears to be no straight line geometry. Most likely mountain tops in the far distance. The originals need to be shown to Bruce Maccabee or a physicist of the same ilk if the rover never gets back there to check out what it really is.

Here is an attempt to bring out any details in the darkness range……

Below is the OP linked Space.com presented image…..



Using a mini iPad’s own image adjustments suite in the image Editing function…..

Brightness negative 100


PLUS Contrast negative 100


PLUS Exposure positive 100


Here is the result of combining all three adjustments and pinch zooming in three times




Right side


Certainly appears different, not so squarish overall.

Except for what appears to be some noticeable squaring on the right side (barely some on the left side)….presumably, imo, an image processing/camera/lens …artifact effect.

I reserve judgment based on the following stated at the OP linked article……

……” Team scientists have expressed a strong interest in the object and Yutu 2 is now expected to spend the next 2-3 lunar days (2-3 Earth months) traversing lunar regolith and avoiding craters to get a closer look, so updates can be expected.

A likely explanation for the shape would be a large boulder which has been excavated by an impact event.”….

👽🛸🎉🍾🥂

You mean to tell me that they found this and didn't make a b-line directly to it ?

originally posted by: imdfreek
Hey check this out its rather in depth and just as fascinating. Its from the Clementine space mission in the late 90s. This amazing man has a lot of knowledge unfortunately he is no longer with us, which is sad because he knows his stuff. It shows a large cube/ building/ structure on the far side of our moon.
www.marsanomalyresearch.com...

reply to: JamesChessman

Cool, thanks for the link.

I'll have to look at the website more.

At a glance it looks promising and informative.

The black square that the site shows, looks more like a spot of cover-up (rather than actually showing a black object), in my opinion. But that's still interesting because then it's a mystery what was being covered up by the black square?

I'll have to look more into this later.

originally posted by: charlyv

Applying some Gaussian processing, like COAC... , on this terrible low resolution image, There appears to be no straight line geometry. Most likely mountain tops in the far distance. The originals need to be shown to Bruce Maccabee or a physicist of the same ilk if the rover never gets back there to check out what it really is.

Apologies but I don't see really what you're getting at, unless your point is just... that there don't seem straight lines?

Well to address THAT, I'm most inclined to think that it's an ancient structure which is partially buried in thousands of years of lunar dust and soil, which slowly crept up around it.

And getting buried by soil for thousands of years, is more than enough to smooth out the straight lines.

Or, maybe it was built originally as a curvy structure, too.




^We can see examples of such on Earth. Many ancient stone temples and pyramids etc. get buried by natural processes, over thousands of years.

And obviously, people can build curvy structures if we really want to...

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
Here is an attempt to bring out any details in the darkness range……

Below is the OP linked Space.com presented image…..

Using a mini iPad’s own image adjustments suite in the image Editing function…..

Brightness negative 100

PLUS Contrast negative 100

PLUS Exposure positive 100

Here is the result of combining all three adjustments and pinch zooming in three times

Right side

Certainly appears different, not so squarish overall.

Except for what appears to be some noticeable squaring on the right side (barely some on the left side)….presumably, imo, an image processing/camera/lens …artifact effect.

I reserve judgment based on the following stated at the OP linked article……

……” Team scientists have expressed a strong interest in the object and Yutu 2 is now expected to spend the next 2-3 lunar days (2-3 Earth months) traversing lunar regolith and avoiding craters to get a closer look, so updates can be expected.

A likely explanation for the shape would be a large boulder which has been excavated by an impact event.”….

👽🛸🎉🍾🥂

^As with the other similar post:

All apologies, but:

I'm left wondering if your point is simply that there don't seem straight lines? Because as I responded to the other post: Natural processes over thousands of years, can bury ancient temples, as seen here on Earth, and that would smooth out the straight lines. Plus, the structure could actually be built as a curvy shape.

It's not our usual way of building things but we do makes some things curved. Water towers are giant curvy manmade structures, for example.







...Also I showed that the Mystery House DOES have a 3D dice shape. It's just not visible until the image is brightened, as I did, to show its left side, which is what shows the 3D cube shape.

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
You mean to tell me that they found this and didn't make a b-line directly to it ?

^Lol. We're told that it IS bee-lining there, all this time! It's just a very slow process, so it will take 3 months to slowly drive up to it.

This is from slow driving speed, but also, the rover is only active at certain times of the day, and it's dormant at other times of each day.

It's been a while since I read about that (in early Dec.), but IIRC it was basically a matter of the rover needed to stop and save up solar energy, for many hours, each day.

IIRC the MAJORITY of each day has the rover dormant!!



I should read more about this. I'll post if/when I learn more about the daily cycle of the rover.





But to say the least, it's a very strange life, that the rover has, if it needs to spend the majority of its time being dormant, for the purpose of saving up solar energy.

a reply to: JamesChessman

Pretty interesting, good find. Of course, the no-nothing scientists say it is a rock. If so that's a big rock.

They say the Chinese are going back to check it out.

earthsky.org...

Zoomed-in orbital view from NASA’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) of what may be the ‘mystery hut’ on the edge of the crater (small bright spot). Image via NASA/ GSFC/ Arizona State University/ LROC.
Notably, it appears to be roughly cube-shaped, although it is difficult to determine the true shape due to the small size of the object in the image. Right now, it is only a few pixels wide. There seems to be a dark spot in the middle of the object, or it may be two smaller objects close together.

Here's another view of the object.