Behold! The Pale Horse of Revelation!

Sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees. I'm sure we've all heard that saying, but for me it showed itself to be true recently.

I do want to clarify before I start: I am not a prophet! Everything that I say is my own interpretation based on study, reflection, and current events. If God is directly involved in any way, He merely guided my thoughts. I do not speak for God.

Some of you may remember my earlier thread, The Mark of the COVID, which expounded on the Chinese virus vaccines and their potential tie to the infamous "Mark of the Beast" from the Book of Revelations. i was careful in that thread, however, to couch my perspective with wording that did not state that this Mark of the Beast was right around the corner. The reasoning was simple: I look at the Book of Revelation as several chronological prophecies, that is, prophesies that are to occur over time in a specific order. The timing for the Mark of the Beast simply isn't here yet (although we are getting closer). In other words, the technology is there, the methodology is working, and some of my predictions in that thread have even come true in some areas... but it is not yet time for the actual Mark of the Beast. We first have to meet the AntiChrist.

However, as I was reading another thread the other night about potential immunity dysfunction from the vaccines, I had a thought that seemed to tie this virus and the vaccine to another, closer prophecy contained in Revelation... so I started studying. I have found some indications that could be seen as tying this virus and the vaccines to the Book of Revelations.

I want to look at Revelations 6:8. You can use any online source for this, but I am using the King James Version of the Bible and Strong's Exhaustive Concordance to help understand it as written. One good source I recommend is BlueLetterBible.org. Remember that the Bible was not written in English... it was written originally in Ancient Hebrew and Greek, then translated into various modern languages. Strong's Concordance gives the definitions, etymology, and usage of the original words.

And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

I have spoke about this verse before. In one of my earliest threads, I stated that I believed the horses came chronologically and that we were then living in the third, black horse. I will not repeat that thread here; feel free to read it yourself if you wish: Behold! The Black Horse of Revelation

One thing I have noticed of late is the use of the word "and" (kai) in the Greek Scriptures. Strong's leaves a hint of not just a conjunctive meaning ("this and that"), but also a cumulative one... as in, similar to what we would today say as "and then" ("I did this and then I did that"). That fits with the concept of this section of the Book of Revelation being chronological, as is indicated by the opening of the seals one by one.

The color of the horse is actually a bit of a misinterpretation. The word translated as "pale" is actually chlōros, which is the word from which we derive such modern words as "chlorine," "chloroform," "Clorox," and "chlorophyll." It actually refers to a pale greenish color, the color associated with sickness. Chlorine is a very dangerous gas and has a slight greenish color. It is the main component in "mustard gas."

The next part used to confuse me. "Death" comes from the word thanatos, which literally means death of the body, and "Hell" comes form the word hadēs, which means the afterlife. The two are inextricably connected, so why go so far as to say the rider is one and the other follows him? Then I noticed something that made me understand: the rider is not Death! The rider is named Death! So what difference does that make? As it turns out, quite a bit... the word "named" comes from onoma, which literally means what one is called. No other rider is "named" in this way; they are described. This one is named Death, meaning he is called death as opposed to being death.

And hadēs follows him. I looked up "followed" as well. It comes from akoloutheō, which is derived from alpha (the first) and keleuthos (a road). Strongs defines it as one who follows he who came first, so akoloutheō certainly indicates a chronological connection. The rider called Death comes first, but is then followed by an associated Hell.

And I thought, isn't that what we have right now?

Think about it: right now, the whole world is worried about the Chinese virus. Governmnets and media are calling it deadly... and it can be, but only in a small percentage of cases, and those typically with people who have other health issues already. It is not "death," but anyone listening to the media would certainly think it is. It has been named "death." Following this virus, we have a vaccine that is already being blamed for quite a few deaths in otherwise healthy individuals. So the virus is the rider, not truly death but named death, and the vaccine is the grave.

I'll mention here that a doctor recently told me that in the past month, he lost twenty healthy patients who suddenly died from myocardial inflammations, after being vaccinated. That certainly sounds like the grave to me!

We can also recall that prophesy always primarily concerns the areas connected to the prophet. John of Revelation was Jewish; his prophesy would concern Israel. And of course, we all know that there have been an awful lot of deaths in Israel recently, and Israel is one of the most-vaccinated nations. Seems to me that hell is certainly following that which was called death in Israel.

Note that I am still not telling anyone to get or not to get vaccinated, nor will I deride anyone who decides to get vaccinated. This thread is not a divine revelation. It is my interpretation, which I am disclosing to allow others to decide for themselves if it is worthy of consideration. I do not speak for God, and I do not speak as a doctor. I speak simply as someone who sees a correlation between Biblical prophesy and current events.

Anyway, back to the Book of Revelations: "And power was given to them" is the next phrase. Power is from exousia, which means authority or control over. "Was given" is translated from didōmi, which means it was bestowed or granted. "Them" is translated from autos and means exactly what that word means... it refers specifically to the rider and the follower. This tells me that there are people, powerful people, behind both the virus itself and the vaccine. So who would that be?

"Over the fourth part of the earth" answers that question. China has approximately one fourth of the world's population. So we are looking at the leaders and associates of the same nation that originally announced an outbreak of the virus which set all this in motion: China. They have power and control over one fourth of the global population.

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"Over the fourth part of the earth" answers that question. China has approximately one fourth of the world's population. So we are looking at the leaders and associates of the same nation that originally announced an outbreak of the virus which set all this in motion: China. They have power and control over one fourth of the global population.

And what is this power? "To kill," which is translated from apokteinō, literally "to separate from life" or to slay. How do they kill? "With sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth." Let's examine how this killing is actually accomplished.

"Sword" is not the same type of sword as is used earlier in Revelation 6:4 (Nazi Germany under Adolph Hitler). That "sword" was from the word machaira, which is a blade used for skinning wild animals... think "machette." When one looks back on the history of war in general and compares that to World War II, the use of machaira seems appropriate; World War II, while bloody, was fought primarily with long-range weapons, not close-range fighting such as was the primary method of attack in previous wars. However, Hitler was well-known for his atrocities committing inhumane acts against his opponents, typically after his opponents had been rendered helpless. The Holocaust, for example, was committed not against armed men on the field of war, but against helpless prisoners. It more not a fight; it was a massacre.

In Revelation 6:8, the word "sword" comes from rhomphaia, which is a sabre or cutlass... a sword of war, of the kind typically used in field of battle. This would indicate a more traditional war instead of a massacre, and hand-to-hand killing rather than long-range weaponry.

"Hunger" comes from the word limos, which means a scarcity of food, typically due to a lack of harvest... a famine.

"Death" comes from the word thanatos, which I previously defined. In this usage, however, the death is real and not specified as named only.

The final method of separation from life is using the "beasts of the field." "Beasts" comes from the word thērion. Thērion is a diminutive (smaller) derivation of thēra, which refers to the hunting of game animals; thērion is therefore defined as a smaller animal. "Of the earth" seems to reinforce this concept of diminutive animals: The actual wording is ho gē. Ho is analogous to the English word "the"... a particle. Gē is the word for soil, sometimes used to refer to lands or the planet in general. Therefore, these diminutive beasts are of the soil itself.

This specific method of slaying has puzzled me for a long time. However, as mentioned, the word "and" (kai) actually can indicate more than just a conjunction... it indicates a related sequence. Therefore, let us look at the sequence of events being described: an initial invasion where a great many are killed though hand-to-hand armed conflict; during this attack, crops are destroyed, while the aftermath of the initial attack sees a blockade to prevent import of food and assistance; due to this blockade, hunger kills many more; those who are dead are left where they fall, allowing the natural processes (soil-based scavengers) to consume the body... and some of those consumed will not be completely dead until this occurs.

That has happened before. In the War of Northern Aggression, William Tecumseh Sherman blazed a path of utter destruction through the South. He killed many immediately with the sword, burned the crops to starve the rest, and many were left for dead to die of natural exposure. It was quite the effective tactic, although it is horrendously inhumane. I see no reason why a similar attack could not be happen again to Israel. Israel has depended on the United States for protection since it was re-established as a country. Should that protection somehow be removed, Israel is surrounded by a lot of Muslim countries ran by zealots who have previously stated clearly that their primary goal was the destruction of Israel.

This is further indicated by Revelation 6:9-11. For brevity I will not dissect those verses here, but I will refer to it:

And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

If US public support for Israel and the Jewish faith were to wane, that would also mean that support for Christians in the US could wane. The Jewish faith relies on the Torah for its Holy Scriptures, and the Torah is an integral part of the Bible. The verses above indicate a period of time where God waits to avenge those slain for their faith in Jesus, until those left are "fulfilled." There is more to this; I am not convinced that this means all Christians must be slain for their faith, but that is for another thread.

My point at this time is that if Israel loses US protection due to a widespread anti-Torah sentiment, that could lead to exactly what is described in Revelation 6:8, and that same anti-Torah sentiment could also lead to the events indicated in Revelation 6:9-11.

I should pause here to explain something: prophesy is always seer-specific; one typically interprets prophecy through cultural eyes. Biblical prophesies will always concern the Jewish people. The prophecies may hold repercussions for other countries as well, but the primary viewpoint is that of a Jew. Other prophets have indicated similar: Edgar Cayce spoke primarily about changes in North America; Michel de Nostradame spoke of France more than other countries; Joe Brandt related the events in California before relating consequences to other areas; Dimitri Dudman's prophecies were intiially of Ukraine and Russia, then later of America as he immigrated. Therefore, I interpret John's prophecies as relating primarily to Israel, although they can have consequences for other lands.

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Now I need to open up another section of the Bible as additional evidence of what I see as coming in the near future, Daniel 8:3-7:

Then I lifted up mine eyes, and saw, and, behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last.

I saw the ram pushing westward, and northward, and southward; so that no beasts might stand before him, neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand; but he did according to his will, and became great.

And as I was considering, behold, an he goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.

And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power.

And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand.

The Book of Daniel goes on to describe what happens to the he goat after the ram is defeated, and later on even the arch-angel Gabriel helps Daniel to interpret the vision. I will not analyze Daniel 8:3-7 in the same detail here as I previously analyzed Revelation 6:8, but ther4e are a few points I want to make.

Firstly, the he goat. The Hebrew word translated as "he goat" is actually two words: ʿēz (a female goat) which is a feminine noun in singular, but masculine in plural; and ṣāp̄îr, which is a masculine noun meaning male goat ('billy' goat in the present vernacular). In other words, Daniel saw not one goat, but a herd of male goats. They moved across the land without touching the ground, then proceeded to advance on the ram and destroy it.

Secondly, the ram. It has two horns, not one. In Biblical symbolism, a horn is a ruler or leader. So this ram was being led by two different rulers at the same time. One starts and the other, greater than the first, joins.

And thirdly, the directions the ram was pushing: West, North, and South. Not East. There was no push to the East. Then I will point out that to the east of China there is pretty much nothing but water.

In Daniel 8:20, Gabriel identified who the ram was:

The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.

Media and Persia are generally assumed to both refer to areas of present day Iran. However, Gabriel says they are two separate kings, one of Media and the other of Persia. How can this be? Iran would have to split into two regions for this to be possible.

The answer to this riddle lies in the context. The year was approximately 550 BC, established by Daniel's reference to this occurring in the "third year of the reign of king Belshazzar" (see Daniel 8:1). In reality, Belshazzar was never a true "king"; he ruled in the place of Nabonidus while Nabonidus was absent during 553-543 BC. The third year of his reign as "acting king" would be the year 550 BC. Daniel was also in the area known then as Elam; Shushan (today Susa or Shush) was the capital. Elam, incidentally, is still a province of Iran today.

It was a time of conquests. By 600 BC, the Median Empire stretched far to the east of Elam. The Persian Empire began in 553 BC. just south and east of Elam (southern Iran today) and steadily spread north and east throughout the Median Empire. By 550 BC. the Persian Empire had conquered most of the Median Empire to the east of Elam. Elam, which was never conquered by the Medeans, became a part of the Persian Empire in 539 BC.

In other words, Daniel was a subject not of Persia, but of Elam. Persia was the area to the north and east of Elam, and Media extended past that. China was not known by Daniel at the time; anything to the north and east of the Persian Empire was still considered "Media." Elam was an independent province allied with Persia, ruled by Belshazzar, until 539 BC.

One of the horns identified by Gabriel was Persia, or what we would consider today as Iran. The other one was Media, the area east of the Persian Empire, which would include the country we today know as China. Daniel saw a coming war "in the last end of the indignation" (see Daniel 8:19). Now, many have claimed that the events Daniel saw were fulfilled during the reign of Alexander the Great some 220 years or so later. However, Daniels's vision clearly showed the ram (Persia and Media) as the aggreessors and the he goat (Grecia, or Greece; see Daniel 8:21) as the defenders. That was not the case with Alexander the Great; Alexander was the aggressor. Thus, the vision cannot be referring to Alexander the Great. It must refer to Persia and Media as agressors.

However, Gabriel does say the he goat(s) are led by a king of Grecia, or present-day Greece. Many (male) goats acting as one indicates many countries led by a single ruler. We have many countries acting in unison that includes Greece today: the European Union. At some point, a Greek general will lead the EU in a successful assault on China and Iran, after China and Iran begin to take over countries in an expansion.

In some ways we may already be seeing the beginnings of this. China has taken over Hong Kong and claims Taiwan as well. There are reports of warlike fighting happening in Hong Kong.

One big question that has plagued me is this: where is the USA during all this? After all, the USA has been a key element in winning both World Wars, so why would the EU be the primary victors this time and not the USA? I cannot answer that at this time. While I have suspicions, I have thus far been unable to verify the efficacy of certain other prophesies that might hold the answer to that question. i will add to that the issue that, were I to irresponsibly state what I am seeing without some corroboration with other reliable prophecies or current events, it could create a panic... I do not wish to create a panic, especially when I cannot absolutely verify the information. It seems fairly obvious to me, however, that in order for the pale horse in Revelation 6:8 to succeed in decimating Israel, the USA must be unable or unwilling to provide protection to Israel. Thus, the EU will be forced to fill this role.

The EU has been a peaceful (if authoritarian) government of Europe; so what could convince them to take up arms? It would have to be something quite harmful to the EU itself, and current events shows one such possibility: Germany particularly has been quite open to the idea of importing Russian energy production. I believe this will continue. Recall that the ram in Daniel pushes three directions: west, south, and north. There is only one country north of China: Russia. China wants to be the economic superpower, and to do that they need a vibrant manufacturing sector. They have already accomplished that, but they still wish to grow. In order to do that, they need energy... a LOT of energy!

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Energy means oil. Sorry to all the alternative-energy folks, but that's just the way it is. Oil provides not just energy, but plastics as well; it is the perfect fuel for growing manufacturing. But China has no oil to speak of; Russia does.

Of course China can get oil from Iran and the Middle East, but look at a global map. In order to do so, tankers have to travel the length of the northern Indian Ocean, through the Indonesian Island chains, and head north to reach a Chinese port. Tactically speaking, that is a very weak link, and it is the only link China has got. But Russia, their neighbor to the north, has oil now. There are already pipelines connecting Russian oil with China, and more under construction. The problem is Russia struggles with infrastructure; after the fall of the USSR, the USA "helped" Russia convert to a capitalistic society, in the process draining already-strained Russian resources. They are still recovering.

China and Russia are not friends; never have been. But they are allies economically. Russian pipelines into China would make for a much more stable energy supply for China's growing manufacturing base, and Chinese purchases of oil will allow Russia to build up their economy as well and provide greater infrastructure for more oil exports. The kicker is that while China needs Russia exclusively to obtain a secure supply of oil, Russia just wants to sell their oil to anyone.

Russia is selling oil to the western EU nations as well as allying with Iran to use their present Persian Gulf pipeline facilities and future Syrian pipeline facilities (the latter will give Iranian/Russian oil a Mediterranean port). Iran and Syria are friendly... the biggest conflict among the Islamic nations in the Middle East is the arguments between Sunni and Shia Muslims. Iran is primarily Shia, and Syria is accepting of the Shia Muslim faith (Syria is probably the most non-religious country in the Arabic world; both Shia and Sunni are accepted). So accessing the Iranian oil pipelines provides access also to Syrian facilities under construction.

That worries China.

If Russia starts to benefit more from their non-Chinese pipelines, they will likely start rationing oil to China to meet other customers' needs. That could trigger a Chinese invasion of Russia. Iran simply wants to sell oil, so they would likely align with the new pipeline owner, China. In addition, Chinese military backup would give Iran a huge military advantage over Israel; as it stands, the military situation is more of a standoff, with neither side overly confident of winning in a war. An alliance with a militarized China would change that, especially with the USA unable to or unwilling to protect Israel.

The EU would be struggling to import enough oil if that happened, which could easily fuel the drums of war. I see that as a very likely scenario of how the various alliances needed to fulfill Daniel could come to pass.

So, to collate and summarize, I see the following happening in the near future based on prophesy, in approximate order:

• The pale horse in Revelation 6:8 is China under current/near future leadership.
  
• The rider is likely Xi Xinpeng, who has spread a virus which is advertised as "death."
  
• The resultant vaccine(s) and restrictions (real "death") will eventually kill many more people than the virus.
  
• Public sentiment will turn against Israel, and then against Christianity.
  
• Russia will continue to sell energy to the EU, becoming a valued trade partner.
  
• China will then launch offensives to create a new empire, which will include all areas around them, including Russia.
  
• China will attack and subdue Russia, shutting off energy supplies to the EU.
  
• At some point, China will ally with Iran.
  
• Iran will decimate but not destroy Israel with Chinese military backing.
  
• The USA will be either unable or unwilling to respond to Israel's plight.
  
• The EU will launch a ground attack against China/Iran after aerial staging in the area.
  
• A Greek leader will lead this assault.
  
• This assault will be successful and end the Chinese/Iranian offensives.
  
• The EU will split into four new countries afterwards.
  
• Christians will suffer an era of prosecution.
  
• The sixth seal of Revelation 6:12 will be opened.

Get ready people; it's all going by the Book.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Great thread! Congrats 100K

Anonymous post???? we have that option?

a reply to: Bigburgh

Wow! That is a lot of posts! No wonder my fingers are so skinny...

The anonymous user idea was from long, long ago. It was an experiment that was eventually declared to be a failure.

Damn, I just realized... I changed the 100K with this post.

TheRedneck

That was a long read but thanks for sharing all that with us.

What a long strange road it has been and is going to be.

a reply to: baddmove

Took longer to write it. Been working on it actively for over a week, and I started thinking about it a few months back. There's just so many things to tie together.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Yes i saw it coming and screen capped..... i nudged a bit with the linked post and threads.

As per usual your thoughts and connections made are excellently laid out…
The problem is you’re speaking on the book of revelations, something that shouldn’t be done…
The warning for doing such is quite clear, none the less I found your interpretations for the most part plausible…
Far more so than most guilty of attempting the same…

a reply to: 5StarOracle

The problem is you’re speaking on the book of revelations, something that shouldn’t be done…

I hear you, really. The truth is, even after I finished it, I wasn't sure whether to post it or not.

I really had to do some soul-searching before I hit the "post" button.

But... I really believe what I posted is accurate. Time will tell for sure. At least with it posted, others may be looking for signs as history rolls on. If it helps one person avoid one problem, it's worth it.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

One thing that comes to mind after reading this... The timing, would be interesting to hear how you would see the chronology with this modification.

What if Jesus was the antichrist? Remember, beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheeps clothing.

a reply to: XipeTotex

What if Jesus was the antichrist?

How can the Christ be the AntiChrist? How can that even be possible?

"Christ" is one of the few words in the King James Version that was not interpreted. It is a Greek word, and it means "the anointed one," while also referring to the anointing itself. "Christ" was not Jesus' last name; it is His title.

Michel de Nostradame spoke of many "antichrists" who would come... those who would try to destroy the work of anointed One and His anointing. The Bible actually never mentions the AntiChrist, the one who will erect the abomination of desolation in the place of the Holy Temple and who forces the world to take the Mark of the Beast, at least not by name. The only mention of the word "antichrist" is in the Epistles of John.

Today, we use the word to refer to the man behind the Mark of the Beast in Revelation. The AntiChrist is the one who is foretold to oppose Jesus in the end times. How can one oppose themselves?

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

I noticed you had a problem with identifying current day Israel. Let me tell you the prophesies to look at. According to Genesis 48 and 49 it was prophesied that the sons of Israel were to eventually become nations. With Ephraim the son of Joseph becoming a multitude of nations by the end times.

So yes the prophesies of the Bible are about Israel. But. Israel is the entire world now. And that's why Bible prophesies also pertain to the world.

a reply to: XipeTotex

The antichrist as The Christ
That’s an Oxymoron
To even begin to formulate this argument is futile
Christ said it best himself “a kingdom divided upon itself can not stand”
If you look to revelations this will prove quite prophetic when Satan finally attempts to take this very stance…

a reply to: TheRedneck
On ch6 v8 I will add only this here;
That the four things brought by this rider are an echo- and I suggest, a deliberate echo- of Ezekiel ch14 v21.
"..when I send upon Jerusalem my four sore acts of judgement, sword, famine, evil beasts and pestilence".
The four horsemen themselves are another echo of the same, and of similar verses in Jeremiah.

a reply to: TheRedneck

What if the real Jesus was further in the past, and the one we know was a false prophet, but i do not know, my bible is not stong enough, just a thought that popped in my mind, it would explain lots, considering everything that is wrong with the church. Also from a personal viewpoint..

I know some religious people, only one of them is truly a good person, just amazing, if everyone was like that it would be awesome, but i know and have met many other people who are believers and go to church, the whole thing, and man, they are evil and violent human beings. And its weird how they somehow "hide" behind their religion almost, difficult to explain.. Evil.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: XipeTotex

What if Jesus was the antichrist?

How can the Christ be the AntiChrist? How can that even be possible?

"Christ" is one of the few words in the King James Version that was not interpreted. It is a Greek word, and it means "the anointed one," while also referring to the anointing itself. "Christ" was not Jesus' last name; it is His title.

Michel de Nostradame spoke of many "antichrists" who would come... those who would try to destroy the work of anointed One and His anointing. The Bible actually never mentions the AntiChrist, the one who will erect the abomination of desolation in the place of the Holy Temple and who forces the world to take the Mark of the Beast, at least not by name. The only mention of the word "antichrist" is in the Epistles of John.

Today, we use the word to refer to the man behind the Mark of the Beast in Revelation. The AntiChrist is the one who is foretold to oppose Jesus in the end times. How can one oppose themselves?

TheRedneck

His Evil Twin perhaps?

a reply to: XipeTotex

“What if, ifs and buts were candy’s and nuts?”

Those things that just pop into your head are’nt always derived from yourself
Sometimes they are what’s known as a locution
The source of which can be good or bad at the extreme
So when you experience this give careful effort to derive at a proper measurement of the worth and merit of it before accepting it as anything of value…
This is how evil destroys with ease simply through confusion…
And how you do great harm to yourself by programming your subconscious mind…
In other words trust not even your own thoughts if you can’t prove them to be true…

a reply to: TheRedneck

I think there is a more obvious answer to who the goat of the prophecy is. Daniel 8 specifically states the horns are the kings of Media and Persia. And which nation in the world recently conquered 2 nations in the Middle East? The USA.

I would pose that the goat is the United States in the end times. Destined to conquer 3 nations in the middle east and then eventually breaking up into the 4 notable horns of the goat later.

Also it would appear that Daniel 11 is running concurrently with Daniel 8. With Daniel 11-4 happening as the same event that breaks up the great horn into the 4 notable ones.