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Rolling Stone: Trump’s White House passed around a presentation on how to end American democracy

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posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 11:33 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse






posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 11:43 PM
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Yes,should have voted for Hillary,
Loser



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 11:46 PM
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originally posted by: TDawg61
Yes,should have voted for Hillary,
Loser



Hillary didn't have an overblown pandemic to help her get those illegal motor voter registrations to mail in ballots.



posted on Dec, 12 2021 @ 11:51 PM
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originally posted by: Ghostsdogood

originally posted by: TDawg61
Yes,should have voted for Hillary,
Loser



Hillary didn't have an overblown pandemic to help her get those illegal motor voter registrations to mail in ballots.

Or the thousands of illegal voters let over the border the US taxpayers will be supporting indephinatly



posted on Dec, 13 2021 @ 12:10 AM
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originally posted by: TDawg61

originally posted by: Ghostsdogood

originally posted by: TDawg61
Yes,should have voted for Hillary,
Loser



Hillary didn't have an overblown pandemic to help her get those illegal motor voter registrations to mail in ballots.

Or the thousands of illegal voters let over the border the US taxpayers will be supporting indephinatly



Now Millions, not thousands.




posted on Dec, 13 2021 @ 02:37 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
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Otherwise, where are all the 80 million plus Americans who voted for Biden?... After all, he has maybe 12 million followers in twitter, and around the same in Facebook. While President Trump had like 88 million followers in Twitter and around the same in Facebook.

And before you claim "that's not how we know how many followers Biden has in the U.S. in 2019 there were around 220 Americans using Facebook alone, but Biden can only get around 12 million followers... Why?...

Biden's rallies have always been almost completely empty. His rallies have been emptier than those of Hillary, and Hillary could only get about half a stadium full of people in her rallies. While President Trump's rallies were not just almost 100% full, but there were normally large amounts of people outside his rallies wanting to go inside.



The bold part should read "in 2019 there were around 220 MILLION Americans using Facebook alone,"



posted on Dec, 13 2021 @ 02:42 AM
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Is how they have learned to defend their failed policies, and their democrat leaders...

Leftists/anti-Trumnpers never take responsibility and always lie to further their goals...

Just like Smolett lied and staged a fake racist attack. We have threads in these forums mentioning several dozens and dozens similar hoaxed racial attacks. The media also lies constantly. Every time someone white decides to murder people, even if they were not racists, the lying mainstream media and the lying democrat leaders claim "racism..." But they don't say crap about every murder that occurs in hell holes like Illinois... Because it doesn't further their goals. However, they are quick enough to claim black criminals killing other black people and people of other races in Chicago, and other democrat cities, is being caused because of adjacent states don't have the strict gun control laws that Chicago/Illinois has... Which is a bunch of BS. Criminals don't follow laws, and the large majority of democrat leaders LOVE criminals...

This is similar to Baldwin saying that he did not take responsibility for murdering that female producer... He has gone so far as claiming he didn't pull the trigger... What a load of BS...

But we have seen for over 5 years now democrats have made lying their main method of talking to their so called constituents.

You have got to wonder why these people, democrat fans, LOVE being lied to just like the OP LOVES lying just as he/she did in this thread... And by the number of stars and flags he/she got, several ATS members LOVE being lied to, and LOVE lying as well...




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posted on Dec, 13 2021 @ 02:52 AM
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originally posted by: TDawg61

originally posted by: Ghostsdogood

originally posted by: TDawg61
Yes,should have voted for Hillary,
Loser



Hillary didn't have an overblown pandemic to help her get those illegal motor voter registrations to mail in ballots.

Or the thousands of illegal voters let over the border the US taxpayers will be supporting indephinatly


Not indefinitely. A ONE TIME $449,000 payment.



posted on Dec, 13 2021 @ 02:56 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Lying 24/7, and endless investigations, will be their un-doing.

This Democrat-led Congress has but 1 accomplishment since they took office on Jan 1, 2019. That's the $1.2 Trillion infrastructure program. (The $5 Trillion pandemic spending was just shoveling money into the economy. A gorilla could do it.)


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posted on Dec, 13 2021 @ 05:01 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
ROFLMAO... I am the one all over the place?... You are the one arguing that because someone else agrees with your argument that roads, police/military, etc are socialist programs must make such arguments true. You are the one making asinine arguments.


Yup, still not reading and comprehending.

What I'm saying is that they agree that using mandatory taxes to fund services is socialistic.

Now go make a non sequitur argument about murder or selling real estate, it's about all you can do since you don't understand property taxes in the United States.



posted on Dec, 13 2021 @ 05:19 AM
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Is this the same magazine that put the Boston bomber on the front cover...that is beyond disgusting.



posted on Dec, 13 2021 @ 06:30 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

Yup, still not reading and comprehending.

What I'm saying is that they agree that using mandatory taxes to fund services is socialistic.

Now go make a non sequitur argument about murder or selling real estate, it's about all you can do since you don't understand property taxes in the United States.




It's obvious by now that you simply insist in denying anything that debunks your claims. You remind me of the democrats in "The Lincoln Project..." Like you they all claim to be Republicans, yet they have been caught using democrat operatives to push their lies.

You claim to be against socialism, but in pretty much every thread you actually defend socialism with nothing but inane arguments. I am starting to think that you must be a member of "The Lincoln Project." Like you they used lies against Trump, just like you argued that Flynn was/is a criminal because the lying mainstream media claims so, and you think he(Flynn) should be in jail. You, like democrats, believe in puting in jail your political opponents.

But the truth always shines no matter how many inane and absurd arguments you keep making up. You are so far left, that you love socialism with a passion. Which is why your argument is the same as other socialists.

Just like you do socialists and even communists also claim that roads, police departments, military, etc are socialist programs.

Heck, your biggest idol "Bernie Sanders" also thinks that roads, police departments, the military, libraries, etc are socialist...


Presidential hopeful Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) looks on during the second Democratic primary debate of the 2020 presidential campaign season hosted by NBC News at the Adrienne Arsht Center for the Performing Arts in Miami, Florida, June 27, 2019. SAUL LOEB/AFP/Getty Images

In their incessant propaganda war to move the United States leftwards, leftists often claim that this country already is partly socialist. And they are partially correct. But in their urgency to fool us all, they often stretch their argument to include many institutions that are decidedly not socialist.

In the war of ideas, it’s important that those of us who love liberty and oppose socialism actually understand the difference.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who knows socialism better than anyone, often plays this deceptive game. As he recently said: “When you go to your public library, when you call your fire department or the police department, what do you think you’re calling? These are socialist institutions.
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No Bernie, the Police and Fire Departments are Not Socialism







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posted on Dec, 13 2021 @ 06:34 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
It's obvious by now that you simply insist in denying anything that debunks your claims.


No, it's basic socio-economics, when you take money from taxpayers and use that revenue to pay others that's socialistic.

Wow, 'gulagbound', what a great source, maybe you can site 'Mr. Potato Head's Economic Forum' next, it's about in line with what you're towing.



posted on Dec, 13 2021 @ 06:37 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

No, it's basic socio-economics, when you take money from taxpayers and use that revenue to pay others that's socialistic.

Wow, 'gulagbound', what a great source, maybe you can site 'Mr. Potato Head's Economic Forum' next, it's about in line with what you're towing.


Nope... You are still arguing that every country in the world is socialist for having taxes, and this is simply not true.... Come out of the closet Bernie...


...Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who knows socialism better than anyone, often plays this deceptive game. As he recently said: “When you go to your public library, when you call your fire department or the police department, what do you think you’re calling? These are socialist institutions.
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No Bernie, the Police and Fire Departments are Not Socialism

That closet of yours cannot hold any more lies Bernie...



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posted on Dec, 13 2021 @ 06:45 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Nope... You are still arguing that every country in the world is socialist for having taxes...


You really do need to read what's being written, using mandatory taxes to pay others is socialistic.

Oh, 'gulagbound' again, someone needs to talk with the cretin running that site, I bet they're a non-American who doesn't own property and pay taxes. If the two of you were actually Americans who owned property I tell you to stop paying your property taxes, say you're not paying for teachers, fire and police services and watch what happens.




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posted on Dec, 13 2021 @ 06:56 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

You really do need to read what's being written, using mandatory taxes to pay others is socialistic.


Every country in the world... In fact most major civilizations on Earth have, or had if those civilizations don't exist anymore, taxes... They all also have/had compulsory taxes... So again you are making the most absurd argument you could make... You are arguing that every single country in the world, and every major civilization that has ever existed, must be socialist for having taxes...

Not to mention that you can't understand the fact in order for your argument to be true then roads, military/police, libraries, etc, must have come to be used AFTER socialism was invented... If they, roads, the military/police, libraries, etc existed BEFORE socialism was invented it is simply impossible for these things to be socialist...


originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
Oh, 'gulagbound' again, someone needs to talk with the cretin running that site, I bet they're a non-American who doesn't own property and pay taxes.


LOL... now that's your new argument?... Are you attempting to claim Bernie Sanders your biggest idol didn't say this?... He has said these same things you claim several times...

No Bernie, the Police and Fire Departments Are Not Socialism

But no matter what links i give, even if I would post a youtube of your biggest idol Sander arguing the same insane claims you are making here you will continue to try to claim "oh that link/website/person"? Because you really can't ever admit being wrong, and you are very wrong.


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posted on Dec, 13 2021 @ 07:01 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Every country in the world... In fact most major civilizations on Earth have, or had if those civilizations don't exist anymore, taxes... They all also have compulsory taxes...


When they are mandatory and used to pay government workers or fund government programs they are socialistic. They aren't called 'social services' for no reason. This has been the case in the United States since it was founded, property owners were taxed and those taxes were used to fund the military, post office/roads and other government programs. This is a reality, not some sort of revisionist history pedaled by ill-informed non-Americans.



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posted on Dec, 13 2021 @ 07:02 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

When they are mandatory and used to pay government workers or fund government programs they are socialistic. They aren't called 'social services' for no reason. This has been the case in the United States since it was founded, property owners were taxed and those taxes were used to fund the military, post office/roads and other government programs. This is a reality, not some sort of revisionist history pedaled by ill-informed non-Americans.


ROFLMAO... The word "social" now makes everything socialist too?... I guess you don't "socialize" right?... Because your argument is to claim "socializing is socialism..." After all, it has the word "social in it..."





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posted on Dec, 13 2021 @ 07:03 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
The word "social" now makes everything socialist too?


No, the taxing and paying of others does. Try to follow along.



posted on Dec, 13 2021 @ 07:05 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

No, the taxing and paying of others does. Try to follow along.


Yeah, now attempt to claim you didn't write such absurd claim, when you actually did.


originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

When they are mandatory and used to pay government workers or fund government programs they are socialistic. They aren't called 'social services' for no reason. This has been the case in the United States since it was founded, property owners were taxed and those taxes were used to fund the military, post office/roads and other government programs. This is a reality, not some sort of revisionist history pedaled by ill-informed non-Americans.





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