Your God killed My Buddies

a reply to: BrujaRebooted

The bible reveals Gods plan, your purpose, nearly on every page
It’s a cult like new age trick, not sure of its purpose outside of confusion

God purpose and plan, go out and love people like Jesus loved people, it’s not hidden

a reply to: Raggedyman

What is a new age trick?

Free will and destiny, i.e., God’s plan, seem to be contradictory.

originally posted by: BrujaRebooted
a reply to: Raggedyman

What is a new age trick?

Free will and destiny, i.e., God’s plan, seem to be contradictory.

Tell me about destiny and the bible, Gods plan is everyone gets an opportunity to accept Jesus
Your destiny is in your own hands, anything else is abuse of power

As for new age trick, think that’s having Christians confused as to their purpose as christians

a reply to: Raggedyman

I dont know how it is phrased in scripture, but many Christian pastors say ‘God has a plan for you’. These are Christians they are preaching to, or ministering. What is the plan after being saved, spreading the good news, and loving your neighbor? Should I be a dentist or a janitor? Should I marry Tom or Bob? Gods will. What we are told when tragedy happens. Dont worry God has a plan for you. Destiny? Jesus knew his plan, he knew he would die on the cross. There also seems to have been a bit of ‘collaboration’ before the savior came to us. A plan. Was he in on the plan? Did Jesus agree and know the plan in advance?

a reply to: BrujaRebooted

God gave his human creations a brain
Study, be a dentist, don’t, be a janitor, you can choose if you can afford to
What God commanded was Christ’s followers make “disciples”, not new christians but disciples, He also commanded that His followers love as Jesus loved

You seem to be adding, assuming, don’t know why and from where you get these additions. Who says “God has a plan” “Destiny”, why do you want to listen to them?
Yes God has a plan, send Jesus and set those in bondage free, you adding or just guessing with your additions. I havnt read them, have you?
Where do you get your information from?

originally posted by: BrujaRebooted
a reply to: Raggedyman
What is the plan after being saved, spreading the good news, and loving your neighbor?

Should I be a dentist or a janitor?

Should I marry Tom or Bob?

What we are told when tragedy

Was he in on the plan? Did Jesus agree and know the plan in advance?

1.The same as it is always been, except now you're an actual part of the machine. The plan is social control and profit.
2.Definitely a janitor
3.Marry both
4.That we knew better, and took the risk anyway.
5.The man known as Jesus was a tool. He had no clue. Probably a pretty good guy though.

The collaboration you speak of began at the dawn of our existance at the emergence of the first lazy person with the knowledge that nature could be manipulated. And that his or her fellow human would see the result as unexplainable, thus man created god. And the collaboration began…Theories, theories, theories.

a reply to: Raggedyman

Jeremiah 29:11

a reply to: BrujaRebooted

You have taken 1 verse from the Old Testament and applied it as if it’s current and relevant today
It’s dumb to do that

This is clearly a prophesy for Israel and the Jews, nothing related to Christianity

“1 This is the text of the letter that the prophet Jeremiah sent from Jerusalem to the surviving elders among the exiles and to the priests, the prophets and all the other people Nebuchadnezzar had carried into exile from Jerusalem to Babylon. 2 (This was after King Jehoiachin and the queen mother, the court officials and the leaders of Judah and Jerusalem, the skilled workers and the artisans had gone into exile from Jerusalem.) 3 He entrusted the letter to Elasah son of Shaphan and to Gemariah son of Hilkiah, whom Zedekiah king of Judah sent to King Nebuchadnezzar in Babylon. It said: 4 This is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says to all those I carried into exile from Jerusalem to Babylon: 5 “Build houses and settle down; plant gardens and eat what they produce. 6 Marry and have sons and daughters; find wives for your sons and give your daughters in marriage, so that they too may have sons and daughters. Increase in number there; do not decrease. 7 Also, seek the peace and prosperity of the city to which I have carried you into exile. Pray to the LORD for it, because if it prospers, you too will prosper.” 8 Yes, this is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says: “Do not let the prophets and diviners among you deceive you. Do not listen to the dreams you encourage them to have. 9 They are prophesying lies to you in my name. I have not sent them,” declares the LORD. 10 This is what the LORD says: “When seventy years are completed for Babylon, I will come to you and fulfill my good promise to bring you back to this place. 11 For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the LORD, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. 12 Then you will call on me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. 13 You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. 14 I will be found by you,” declares the LORD, “and will bring you back from captivity. I will gather you from all the nations and places where I have banished you,” declares the LORD, “and will bring you back to the place from which I carried you into exile.” 15 You may say, “The LORD has raised up prophets for us in Babylon,” 16 but this is what the LORD says about the king who sits on David’s throne and all the people who remain in this city, your fellow citizens who did not go with you into exile— 17 yes, this is what the LORD Almighty says: “I will send the sword, famine and plague against them and I will make them like figs that are so bad they cannot be eaten. 18 I will pursue them with the sword, famine and plague and will make them abhorrent to all the kingdoms of the earth, a curse and an object of horror, of scorn and reproach, among all the nations where I drive them. 19 For they have not listened to my words,” declares the LORD, “words that I sent to them again and again by my servants the prophets. And you exiles have not listened either,” declares the LORD. 20 Therefore, hear the word of the LORD, all you exiles whom I have sent away from Jerusalem to Babylon. 21 This is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says about Ahab son of Kolaiah and Zedekiah son of Maaseiah, who are prophesying lies to you in my name: “I will deliver them into the hands of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, and he will put them to death before your very eyes. 22 Because of them, all the exiles from Judah who are in Babylon will use this curse: ‘May the LORD treat you like Zedekiah and Ahab, whom the king of Babylon burned in the fire.’ 23 For they have done outrageous things in Israel; they have committed adultery with their neighbors’ wives, and in my name they have uttered lies—which I did not authorize. I know it and am a witness to it,” declares the LORD.”

You have taken 1 sentence way out of context, it’s so naive
Guessing that’s your excuse, naive
Listen to what the man at the front says and don’t question anything, he must be smart and you? You believe him?
Why, just why do this, why pretend you have a clue

a reply to: Raggedyman

Wow. Calm down.

You asked me where I heard it. I said multiple pastors. God has a plan for you! Then this scripture says the same thing.

You dont need to go off on my naïveté.

Ya’ll have a real nice day.

a reply to: BrujaRebooted

You do know Judaism and Christianity are not the same faiths?


you are right, I was gobsmacked when I saw your reply, was incredulous that you took something from another religion, a small verse and suggested that it justified your argument. My error, my apologies for my reaction but, Seemed you wanted to argue these things, at least to me

Anyway, probably just my reaction to much hostility around here, much ignorance, again, I overreacted, I shall try not to in future

All the best

a reply to: Raggedyman

Interesting apology when you lead with a question such as ‘You do know Judaism and Christianity are not the same faiths’.

You are still talking down to me.

Im not surprised your experiences ‘around here’ are fraught with hostility. Ignorance? meh

Totally didn't mean to interrupt you and bruja earlier. Pardon me as I am new to the rules of etiquette here while using an interface. So. Do you believe that according to the way the Abrahamic god operates that its possible that your god still smites people?

a reply to: Raggedyman

a reply to: BrujaRebooted

Maybe you misunderstood me
I am sorry for not reading into your posts, they may have been questions not statements
But, you wanted the argument, not sorry for that.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: BrujaRebooted

Maybe you misunderstood me
I am sorry for not reading into your posts, they may have been questions not statements
But, you wanted the argument, not sorry for that.

No I don't think I misunderstood. You are a Man of faith.
Nothing to apologize about. This site is crazy. There were both questions and statements,

And I absolutely wanted the argument and Im glad you're not sorry(you shouldn't have to be). This was not to cast doubt on any faith or doctrine. I sometimes become engulfed and my brain overloads my mouth in embarrassing fashion.

a reply to: didntasktobeborned

spectator.org...

A list of the 10 most evil people of all time according to someone, not me

How many of these people were smithed by God?
Alister Crowley, He wasn’t smited, he seemed pretty evil
Hitler, suicide, not smited
TV evangelists, pretty evil, smited?
These people are more evil than the guy you listed
Can’t be bothered listing any more bad people but, you must see my point?

Your friend, drugs killed him not God

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: didntasktobeborned

spectator.org...

A list of the 10 most evil people of all time according to someone, not me

How many of these people were smithed by God?
Alister Crowley, He wasn’t smited, he seemed pretty evil
Hitler, suicide, not smited
TV evangelists, pretty evil, smited?
These people are more evil than the guy you listed
Can’t be bothered listing any more bad people but, you must see my point?

Your friend, drugs killed him not God

Shannon Hoon, was most definitely responsible for his own demise. I remember him being here and pissing on the front row at a show. No, this guy was out of control.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: didntasktobeborned

spectator.org...

A list of the 10 most evil people of all time according to someone, not me

How many of these people were smithed by God?
Alister Crowley, He wasn’t smited, he seemed pretty evil
Hitler, suicide, not smited
TV evangelists, pretty evil, smited?
These people are more evil than the guy you listed
Can’t be bothered listing any more bad people but, you must see my point?

Your friend, drugs killed him not God

Your list is interesting.
Maybe God saw Manson as redeemable. Was Manson a Theist? Or Diest, pretty sure he had a god, didn't he?
Didn't Jimmy Swaggart pretty much get shamed, seems like a lot of the people you mention have not necessarily been rewarded by god.

But which of them outright committed blasphemy and condemned the word of god in Gods name as well as mocked the messenger. And helped influenced the youth of a generation.He was on Sesame Street. (Hoon did a Sesame Street episode) Its not about God eliminating evil, its about him keeping his word. Maybe dude crossed the line.

a reply to: didntasktobeborned

Actually, Raggedyman hijacked my comment to you, and proceeded to call me dumb, naive and argumentative. Then apologized / not apologized, and I bowed out. All ya’ll can do what you want with each other, Im out.

a reply to: Raggedyman

I can read. Saying I misunderstood your words is another gaslight.

I wasnt even posting to you.