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originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: ScepticScot
I'll tell you what antibiotics do work against. Pneumonia.
Unfortunately, the medical community seem to have forgotten that and just throw people on ventilators ultimately killing them.
originally posted by: network dude
just found this, it goes against kids taking the vaccine.
Taking Antibiotics Safely
So what should you do when your child gets sick? To minimize the risk of bacterial resistance, keep these tips in mind:
Take antibiotics only for bacterial infections. It’s a good idea to let milder illnesses (especially those thought to be caused by viruses) run their course. This helps prevent antibiotic-resistant germs from developing. But leave it to your doctor to decide if an illness is “mild” or not. Even if the symptoms don’t get worse but do last a while, take your child to the doctor.
www.rchsd.org...
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
the vaccinated are also the reason for variants. Science.
Just saying science at the end of a sentence doesn't make it true.
www.science.org...
Antibiotic resistance is a widespread problem, and one that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) calls “one of the world’s most pressing public health problems.” Bacteria that were once highly responsive to antibiotics have become more and more resistant. Among those that are becoming harder to treat are pneumococcal infections (which cause pneumonia, ear infections, sinus infections, and meningitis), skin infections, and tuberculosis.
www.rchsd.org...
the science states that overuse of antibiotics causes strains that won't react to antibiotics. I realize that the sanitized version of "science" that accompanies covid is vastly different, but for the folks that remember the old version of science, things like this still creep up.
Vaccines aren't antibiotics which don't work on viruses anyway. If by sanitised you mean correct then yes it vastly different.
Ah, so the antibiotic theory is garbage. See, it if was true that it really worked that way, you may think it could work that way with the first ever vaccine against a cold like sickness, but it's obvious that every precaution has been super well thought out in this one, given all the time and attention to science and scientific protocol that was used in the roll out. I'm sorry for even mentioning it.
Yes the comparison between antibiotics and vaccines is garbage and yes science and scientific protocol was used in the development and roll out.
Glad to see you starting to get it.
you really should correct those idiots who are out there spreading lies about antibiotics and the over use of them. Lives are at stake.
If I was the unkind sort I would say I just did.
However has nothing to do with overuse of antibiotics which is a completely seperate issue.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
just found this, it goes against kids taking the vaccine.
Taking Antibiotics Safely
So what should you do when your child gets sick? To minimize the risk of bacterial resistance, keep these tips in mind:
Take antibiotics only for bacterial infections. It’s a good idea to let milder illnesses (especially those thought to be caused by viruses) run their course. This helps prevent antibiotic-resistant germs from developing. But leave it to your doctor to decide if an illness is “mild” or not. Even if the symptoms don’t get worse but do last a while, take your child to the doctor.
www.rchsd.org...
Only it doesn't because vaccines and antibiotics are still different.
I thought we had established this already.
Take antibiotics only for bacterial infections. It’s a good idea to let milder illnesses (especially those thought to be caused by viruses) run their course. This helps prevent antibiotic-resistant germs from developing. But leave it to your doctor to decide if an illness is “mild” or not. Even if the symptoms don’t get worse but do last a while, take your child to the doctor.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
just found this, it goes against kids taking the vaccine.
Taking Antibiotics Safely
So what should you do when your child gets sick? To minimize the risk of bacterial resistance, keep these tips in mind:
Take antibiotics only for bacterial infections. It’s a good idea to let milder illnesses (especially those thought to be caused by viruses) run their course. This helps prevent antibiotic-resistant germs from developing. But leave it to your doctor to decide if an illness is “mild” or not. Even if the symptoms don’t get worse but do last a while, take your child to the doctor.
www.rchsd.org...
Only it doesn't because vaccines and antibiotics are still different.
I thought we had established this already.
So the advice is not correct?
Take antibiotics only for bacterial infections. It’s a good idea to let milder illnesses (especially those thought to be caused by viruses) run their course. This helps prevent antibiotic-resistant germs from developing. But leave it to your doctor to decide if an illness is “mild” or not. Even if the symptoms don’t get worse but do last a while, take your child to the doctor.
can you show something other than you opinion as to why?
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
the vaccinated are also the reason for variants. Science.
Just saying science at the end of a sentence doesn't make it true.
www.science.org...
Antibiotic resistance is a widespread problem, and one that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) calls “one of the world’s most pressing public health problems.” Bacteria that were once highly responsive to antibiotics have become more and more resistant. Among those that are becoming harder to treat are pneumococcal infections (which cause pneumonia, ear infections, sinus infections, and meningitis), skin infections, and tuberculosis.
www.rchsd.org...
the science states that overuse of antibiotics causes strains that won't react to antibiotics. I realize that the sanitized version of "science" that accompanies covid is vastly different, but for the folks that remember the old version of science, things like this still creep up.
Vaccines aren't antibiotics which don't work on viruses anyway. If by sanitised you mean correct then yes it vastly different.
Ah, so the antibiotic theory is garbage. See, it if was true that it really worked that way, you may think it could work that way with the first ever vaccine against a cold like sickness, but it's obvious that every precaution has been super well thought out in this one, given all the time and attention to science and scientific protocol that was used in the roll out. I'm sorry for even mentioning it.
Yes the comparison between antibiotics and vaccines is garbage and yes science and scientific protocol was used in the development and roll out.
Glad to see you starting to get it.
you really should correct those idiots who are out there spreading lies about antibiotics and the over use of them. Lives are at stake.
If I was the unkind sort I would say I just did.
However has nothing to do with overuse of antibiotics which is a completely seperate issue.
Just so I understand a virus mutates, and somehow, does so to become less affected by the vaccines, and we have studies that show the treatment for bacteria infections will cause bacteria to do the same thing, but one has nothing in common with the other. One is like a cold (covid) for which there is and has never been a treatment for, and the other can be cured by antibiotics, but only until it learns how to get around them.
I suppose it would make a thinking man wonder why a virus mutates to begin with.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
just found this, it goes against kids taking the vaccine.
Taking Antibiotics Safely
So what should you do when your child gets sick? To minimize the risk of bacterial resistance, keep these tips in mind:
Take antibiotics only for bacterial infections. It’s a good idea to let milder illnesses (especially those thought to be caused by viruses) run their course. This helps prevent antibiotic-resistant germs from developing. But leave it to your doctor to decide if an illness is “mild” or not. Even if the symptoms don’t get worse but do last a while, take your child to the doctor.
www.rchsd.org...
Only it doesn't because vaccines and antibiotics are still different.
I thought we had established this already.
So the advice is not correct?
Take antibiotics only for bacterial infections. It’s a good idea to let milder illnesses (especially those thought to be caused by viruses) run their course. This helps prevent antibiotic-resistant germs from developing. But leave it to your doctor to decide if an illness is “mild” or not. Even if the symptoms don’t get worse but do last a while, take your child to the doctor.
can you show something other than you opinion as to why?
Your link is about antibiotic resistance, it's telling you not to use antibiotics where they aren't required or won't work.
It’s a good idea to let milder illnesses (especially those thought to be caused by viruses) run their course
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
the vaccinated are also the reason for variants. Science.
Just saying science at the end of a sentence doesn't make it true.
www.science.org...
Antibiotic resistance is a widespread problem, and one that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) calls “one of the world’s most pressing public health problems.” Bacteria that were once highly responsive to antibiotics have become more and more resistant. Among those that are becoming harder to treat are pneumococcal infections (which cause pneumonia, ear infections, sinus infections, and meningitis), skin infections, and tuberculosis.
www.rchsd.org...
the science states that overuse of antibiotics causes strains that won't react to antibiotics. I realize that the sanitized version of "science" that accompanies covid is vastly different, but for the folks that remember the old version of science, things like this still creep up.
Vaccines aren't antibiotics which don't work on viruses anyway. If by sanitised you mean correct then yes it vastly different.
Ah, so the antibiotic theory is garbage. See, it if was true that it really worked that way, you may think it could work that way with the first ever vaccine against a cold like sickness, but it's obvious that every precaution has been super well thought out in this one, given all the time and attention to science and scientific protocol that was used in the roll out. I'm sorry for even mentioning it.
Yes the comparison between antibiotics and vaccines is garbage and yes science and scientific protocol was used in the development and roll out.
Glad to see you starting to get it.
you really should correct those idiots who are out there spreading lies about antibiotics and the over use of them. Lives are at stake.
If I was the unkind sort I would say I just did.
However has nothing to do with overuse of antibiotics which is a completely seperate issue.
Just so I understand a virus mutates, and somehow, does so to become less affected by the vaccines, and we have studies that show the treatment for bacteria infections will cause bacteria to do the same thing, but one has nothing in common with the other. One is like a cold (covid) for which there is and has never been a treatment for, and the other can be cured by antibiotics, but only until it learns how to get around them.
I suppose it would make a thinking man wonder why a virus mutates to begin with.
Or the thinking man could read up on it and realise its a completely false comparison.
originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: ScepticScot
The first time I ever had the flu as a kid my mum called out the doctor who gave me a prescription of antibiotics to take. Why would that be? Were they just meant to be a placebo?
Also what does science have to say about the placebo affect how do they work? I won’t hold my breath waiting for an answer.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
the vaccinated are also the reason for variants. Science.
Just saying science at the end of a sentence doesn't make it true.
www.science.org...
Antibiotic resistance is a widespread problem, and one that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) calls “one of the world’s most pressing public health problems.” Bacteria that were once highly responsive to antibiotics have become more and more resistant. Among those that are becoming harder to treat are pneumococcal infections (which cause pneumonia, ear infections, sinus infections, and meningitis), skin infections, and tuberculosis.
www.rchsd.org...
the science states that overuse of antibiotics causes strains that won't react to antibiotics. I realize that the sanitized version of "science" that accompanies covid is vastly different, but for the folks that remember the old version of science, things like this still creep up.
Vaccines aren't antibiotics which don't work on viruses anyway. If by sanitised you mean correct then yes it vastly different.
Ah, so the antibiotic theory is garbage. See, it if was true that it really worked that way, you may think it could work that way with the first ever vaccine against a cold like sickness, but it's obvious that every precaution has been super well thought out in this one, given all the time and attention to science and scientific protocol that was used in the roll out. I'm sorry for even mentioning it.
Yes the comparison between antibiotics and vaccines is garbage and yes science and scientific protocol was used in the development and roll out.
Glad to see you starting to get it.
you really should correct those idiots who are out there spreading lies about antibiotics and the over use of them. Lives are at stake.
If I was the unkind sort I would say I just did.
However has nothing to do with overuse of antibiotics which is a completely seperate issue.
Just so I understand a virus mutates, and somehow, does so to become less affected by the vaccines, and we have studies that show the treatment for bacteria infections will cause bacteria to do the same thing, but one has nothing in common with the other. One is like a cold (covid) for which there is and has never been a treatment for, and the other can be cured by antibiotics, but only until it learns how to get around them.
I suppose it would make a thinking man wonder why a virus mutates to begin with.
Or the thinking man could read up on it and realise its a completely false comparison.
So don't think, don't reason, just accept what the authoritarian tells you. Got it.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
the vaccinated are also the reason for variants. Science.
Just saying science at the end of a sentence doesn't make it true.
www.science.org...
Antibiotic resistance is a widespread problem, and one that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) calls “one of the world’s most pressing public health problems.” Bacteria that were once highly responsive to antibiotics have become more and more resistant. Among those that are becoming harder to treat are pneumococcal infections (which cause pneumonia, ear infections, sinus infections, and meningitis), skin infections, and tuberculosis.
www.rchsd.org...
the science states that overuse of antibiotics causes strains that won't react to antibiotics. I realize that the sanitized version of "science" that accompanies covid is vastly different, but for the folks that remember the old version of science, things like this still creep up.
Vaccines aren't antibiotics which don't work on viruses anyway. If by sanitised you mean correct then yes it vastly different.
Ah, so the antibiotic theory is garbage. See, it if was true that it really worked that way, you may think it could work that way with the first ever vaccine against a cold like sickness, but it's obvious that every precaution has been super well thought out in this one, given all the time and attention to science and scientific protocol that was used in the roll out. I'm sorry for even mentioning it.
Yes the comparison between antibiotics and vaccines is garbage and yes science and scientific protocol was used in the development and roll out.
Glad to see you starting to get it.
you really should correct those idiots who are out there spreading lies about antibiotics and the over use of them. Lives are at stake.
If I was the unkind sort I would say I just did.
However has nothing to do with overuse of antibiotics which is a completely seperate issue.
Just so I understand a virus mutates, and somehow, does so to become less affected by the vaccines, and we have studies that show the treatment for bacteria infections will cause bacteria to do the same thing, but one has nothing in common with the other. One is like a cold (covid) for which there is and has never been a treatment for, and the other can be cured by antibiotics, but only until it learns how to get around them.
I suppose it would make a thinking man wonder why a virus mutates to begin with.
Or the thinking man could read up on it and realise its a completely false comparison.
So don't think, don't reason, just accept what the authoritarian tells you. Got it.
Clearly you haven't.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
the vaccinated are also the reason for variants. Science.
Just saying science at the end of a sentence doesn't make it true.
www.science.org...
Antibiotic resistance is a widespread problem, and one that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) calls “one of the world’s most pressing public health problems.” Bacteria that were once highly responsive to antibiotics have become more and more resistant. Among those that are becoming harder to treat are pneumococcal infections (which cause pneumonia, ear infections, sinus infections, and meningitis), skin infections, and tuberculosis.
www.rchsd.org...
the science states that overuse of antibiotics causes strains that won't react to antibiotics. I realize that the sanitized version of "science" that accompanies covid is vastly different, but for the folks that remember the old version of science, things like this still creep up.
Vaccines aren't antibiotics which don't work on viruses anyway. If by sanitised you mean correct then yes it vastly different.
Ah, so the antibiotic theory is garbage. See, it if was true that it really worked that way, you may think it could work that way with the first ever vaccine against a cold like sickness, but it's obvious that every precaution has been super well thought out in this one, given all the time and attention to science and scientific protocol that was used in the roll out. I'm sorry for even mentioning it.
Yes the comparison between antibiotics and vaccines is garbage and yes science and scientific protocol was used in the development and roll out.
Glad to see you starting to get it.
you really should correct those idiots who are out there spreading lies about antibiotics and the over use of them. Lives are at stake.
If I was the unkind sort I would say I just did.
However has nothing to do with overuse of antibiotics which is a completely seperate issue.
Just so I understand a virus mutates, and somehow, does so to become less affected by the vaccines, and we have studies that show the treatment for bacteria infections will cause bacteria to do the same thing, but one has nothing in common with the other. One is like a cold (covid) for which there is and has never been a treatment for, and the other can be cured by antibiotics, but only until it learns how to get around them.
I suppose it would make a thinking man wonder why a virus mutates to begin with.
Or the thinking man could read up on it and realise its a completely false comparison.
So don't think, don't reason, just accept what the authoritarian tells you. Got it.
Clearly you haven't.
and clearly you ignored the question you cannot answer.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
the vaccinated are also the reason for variants. Science.
Just saying science at the end of a sentence doesn't make it true.
www.science.org...
Antibiotic resistance is a widespread problem, and one that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) calls “one of the world’s most pressing public health problems.” Bacteria that were once highly responsive to antibiotics have become more and more resistant. Among those that are becoming harder to treat are pneumococcal infections (which cause pneumonia, ear infections, sinus infections, and meningitis), skin infections, and tuberculosis.
www.rchsd.org...
the science states that overuse of antibiotics causes strains that won't react to antibiotics. I realize that the sanitized version of "science" that accompanies covid is vastly different, but for the folks that remember the old version of science, things like this still creep up.
Vaccines aren't antibiotics which don't work on viruses anyway. If by sanitised you mean correct then yes it vastly different.
Ah, so the antibiotic theory is garbage. See, it if was true that it really worked that way, you may think it could work that way with the first ever vaccine against a cold like sickness, but it's obvious that every precaution has been super well thought out in this one, given all the time and attention to science and scientific protocol that was used in the roll out. I'm sorry for even mentioning it.
Yes the comparison between antibiotics and vaccines is garbage and yes science and scientific protocol was used in the development and roll out.
Glad to see you starting to get it.
you really should correct those idiots who are out there spreading lies about antibiotics and the over use of them. Lives are at stake.
If I was the unkind sort I would say I just did.
However has nothing to do with overuse of antibiotics which is a completely seperate issue.
Just so I understand a virus mutates, and somehow, does so to become less affected by the vaccines, and we have studies that show the treatment for bacteria infections will cause bacteria to do the same thing, but one has nothing in common with the other. One is like a cold (covid) for which there is and has never been a treatment for, and the other can be cured by antibiotics, but only until it learns how to get around them.
I suppose it would make a thinking man wonder why a virus mutates to begin with.
Or the thinking man could read up on it and realise its a completely false comparison.
So don't think, don't reason, just accept what the authoritarian tells you. Got it.
Clearly you haven't.
and clearly you ignored the question you cannot answer.
I did answer it. You are lifting a single line out of an article specifically about antibiotics resistance and claiming that is an argument against vaccination.
It’s a good idea to let milder illnesses (especially those thought to be caused by viruses) run their course
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
the vaccinated are also the reason for variants. Science.
Just saying science at the end of a sentence doesn't make it true.
www.science.org...
Antibiotic resistance is a widespread problem, and one that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) calls “one of the world’s most pressing public health problems.” Bacteria that were once highly responsive to antibiotics have become more and more resistant. Among those that are becoming harder to treat are pneumococcal infections (which cause pneumonia, ear infections, sinus infections, and meningitis), skin infections, and tuberculosis.
www.rchsd.org...
the science states that overuse of antibiotics causes strains that won't react to antibiotics. I realize that the sanitized version of "science" that accompanies covid is vastly different, but for the folks that remember the old version of science, things like this still creep up.
Vaccines aren't antibiotics which don't work on viruses anyway. If by sanitised you mean correct then yes it vastly different.
Ah, so the antibiotic theory is garbage. See, it if was true that it really worked that way, you may think it could work that way with the first ever vaccine against a cold like sickness, but it's obvious that every precaution has been super well thought out in this one, given all the time and attention to science and scientific protocol that was used in the roll out. I'm sorry for even mentioning it.
Yes the comparison between antibiotics and vaccines is garbage and yes science and scientific protocol was used in the development and roll out.
Glad to see you starting to get it.
you really should correct those idiots who are out there spreading lies about antibiotics and the over use of them. Lives are at stake.
If I was the unkind sort I would say I just did.
However has nothing to do with overuse of antibiotics which is a completely seperate issue.
Just so I understand a virus mutates, and somehow, does so to become less affected by the vaccines, and we have studies that show the treatment for bacteria infections will cause bacteria to do the same thing, but one has nothing in common with the other. One is like a cold (covid) for which there is and has never been a treatment for, and the other can be cured by antibiotics, but only until it learns how to get around them.
I suppose it would make a thinking man wonder why a virus mutates to begin with.
Or the thinking man could read up on it and realise its a completely false comparison.
So don't think, don't reason, just accept what the authoritarian tells you. Got it.
Clearly you haven't.
and clearly you ignored the question you cannot answer.
I did answer it. You are lifting a single line out of an article specifically about antibiotics resistance and claiming that is an argument against vaccination.
no, that's totally incorrect.
this was listed on the site I linked as advice for kids infected with a sickness.
It’s a good idea to let milder illnesses (especially those thought to be caused by viruses) run their course
This is the expert medical advice that's given to doctors to refer to in cases where kids get sick. You seem to be against this. If you are, and you don't believe this is correct, can you please offer more than just your opinion as to why it's not correct. I asked nicely and even said please.
The Danger of Antibiotic Overuse
Taking Antibiotics Safely
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: ScepticScot
So you base the conversation off of the title, not the content? Wow, I need to rethink everything now. Who knew.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: ScepticScot
So you base the conversation off of the title, not the content? Wow, I need to rethink everything now. Who knew.
Possibly they are talking about the topic ( novel concept on ATS I know) and lifting individual sentences out and ignoring all context is a little disingenuous.
It’s a good idea to let milder illnesses (especially those thought to be caused by viruses) run their course
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
the vaccinated are also the reason for variants. Science.
Just saying science at the end of a sentence doesn't make it true.
www.science.org...