Stop using the term 'Anti Vaxx'

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot
Not everyone who choses not to get vaccinated is anti vax .

However its a convenient shorthand for those who post lies, misinformation and completely made bollocks about vaccines.

Since there are plenty of those in this site I will continue to use the term, thanks all the same.

and the boot licking crowd isn't smart enough to understand Newton's third law. The harder you push, the more push back you will get. Eventually, someone needs to stop pushing. Once you realize who started it, you might realize who needs to stop.

I agree and when anti vaxers stop telling lies then there is no need to point them out.

That is what you mean right?

pretty much. I wish nobody was spreading lies. But as with Newton's third law, the harder the bootlickers push, the more push back will happen. And pushback currently is fabricated stories mixed in with factual accounts. I don't know if you are aware of this, but currently you can't discuss factual accounts of things if they are negative to the narrative.

We know there can be miocarditis from the shots. But if you talk about the number of cases, or someone you know who got it, you will be silenced by big tech. That's where the lies come from, a counter to that.


If we had real science driving real facts, and left out the "profit" part, we might have some real results to gain traction on this. But once it was politicized and used to get rid of Trump, we seem to have lost the plot.

There is plenty of discussion about the side effects of the vaccines including myocarditis. There is a huge amount of research, 'real science' if you prefer.

What you get from that on this site nd others is anti vaxers misrepresenting or outright lying about that research to make ludicrous claims. It's their bulll# that stops any reasonable discussion.

This is waaay to simple and logical.....

not at all divisive or radically inflammatory...

not enough feelz and too much fact....

i dont like it so its wrong.....and I LoVE this VacCiNe

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot
Not everyone who choses not to get vaccinated is anti vax .

However its a convenient shorthand for those who post lies, misinformation and completely made bollocks about vaccines.

Since there are plenty of those in this site I will continue to use the term, thanks all the same.

and the boot licking crowd isn't smart enough to understand Newton's third law. The harder you push, the more push back you will get. Eventually, someone needs to stop pushing. Once you realize who started it, you might realize who needs to stop.

I agree and when anti vaxers stop telling lies then there is no need to point them out.

That is what you mean right?

pretty much. I wish nobody was spreading lies. But as with Newton's third law, the harder the bootlickers push, the more push back will happen. And pushback currently is fabricated stories mixed in with factual accounts. I don't know if you are aware of this, but currently you can't discuss factual accounts of things if they are negative to the narrative.

We know there can be miocarditis from the shots. But if you talk about the number of cases, or someone you know who got it, you will be silenced by big tech. That's where the lies come from, a counter to that.


If we had real science driving real facts, and left out the "profit" part, we might have some real results to gain traction on this. But once it was politicized and used to get rid of Trump, we seem to have lost the plot.

Trump? Perhaps there should be a new version of Godwin's law substituting Hitler for Trump?

Agree that the plot has been lost, though.

I Was never anti vax until this vax.

Now I am anti all vaxes. I believe they cause autism

originally posted by: sciencelol
I Was never anti vax until this vax.

Now I am anti all vaxes. I believe they cause autism

Are you being serious? If so, that claim was thoroughly debunked about the MMR jab when that nonsense was spread.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: sciencelol
I Was never anti vax until this vax.

Now I am anti all vaxes. I believe they cause autism

Are you being serious? If so, that claim was thoroughly debunked about the MMR jab when that nonsense was spread.

Debunked by who? The same people who say this vax is safe and effective?

Or CNN

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot
Not everyone who choses not to get vaccinated is anti vax .

However its a convenient shorthand for those who post lies, misinformation and completely made bollocks about vaccines.

Since there are plenty of those in this site I will continue to use the term, thanks all the same.

and the boot licking crowd isn't smart enough to understand Newton's third law. The harder you push, the more push back you will get. Eventually, someone needs to stop pushing. Once you realize who started it, you might realize who needs to stop.

I agree and when anti vaxers stop telling lies then there is no need to point them out.

That is what you mean right?

pretty much. I wish nobody was spreading lies. But as with Newton's third law, the harder the bootlickers push, the more push back will happen. And pushback currently is fabricated stories mixed in with factual accounts. I don't know if you are aware of this, but currently you can't discuss factual accounts of things if they are negative to the narrative.

We know there can be miocarditis from the shots. But if you talk about the number of cases, or someone you know who got it, you will be silenced by big tech. That's where the lies come from, a counter to that.


If we had real science driving real facts, and left out the "profit" part, we might have some real results to gain traction on this. But once it was politicized and used to get rid of Trump, we seem to have lost the plot.

it should be an equal pushback no?

this would be like newtons third law deluxe or something.

a reply to: ScepticScot

would you start a thread on twitter or facebook and link it here. I'd like to follow it and see how far it gets. Just so I know how far I can trust your informed opinion.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: ScepticScot

would you start a thread on twitter or facebook and link it here. I'd like to follow it and see how far it gets. Just so I know how far I can trust your informed opinion.

I don't use either, but you seem to confusing having a discussion with making false claims. They are not the same thing .

originally posted by: sciencelol
I Was never anti vax until this vax.

Now I am anti all vaxes. I believe they cause autism

I’m not “anti-vax.”
I was born this way.

And I sure am not “vaccine hesitant”
I’m rock solid in my commitment to not get this jab.

They always need to label people to rile up the masses.

originally posted by: sciencelol

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: sciencelol
I Was never anti vax until this vax.

Now I am anti all vaxes. I believe they cause autism

Are you being serious? If so, that claim was thoroughly debunked about the MMR jab when that nonsense was spread.

Debunked by who? The same people who say this vax is safe and effective?

Or CNN

CNN? I'm a Brit.

By just about everyone, actually. FYI:

www.england.nhs.uk...

originally posted by: network dude
so because I feel you aren't putting much thought into your response, it's fair to call you "anti-thought" right?

You are free to call me that if you wish, doesn't mean you are right, which is why my panties are not going to bunch up.

originally posted by: sciencelol

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: sciencelol
I Was never anti vax until this vax.

Now I am anti all vaxes. I believe they cause autism

Are you being serious? If so, that claim was thoroughly debunked about the MMR jab when that nonsense was spread.

Debunked by who? The same people who say this vax is safe and effective?

Or CNN

The MMR/Autism debacle was a shining example of actual harm caused by folk spreading lies and disinformation about jabs.

You proud of that?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: sciencelol

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: sciencelol
I Was never anti vax until this vax.

Now I am anti all vaxes. I believe they cause autism

Are you being serious? If so, that claim was thoroughly debunked about the MMR jab when that nonsense was spread.

Debunked by who? The same people who say this vax is safe and effective?

Or CNN

The MMR/Autism debacle was a shining example of actual harm caused by folk spreading lies and disinformation about jabs.

You proud of that?

I believe it is a shining example of how long they have been lying to us

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: sciencelol

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: sciencelol
I Was never anti vax until this vax.

Now I am anti all vaxes. I believe they cause autism

Are you being serious? If so, that claim was thoroughly debunked about the MMR jab when that nonsense was spread.

Debunked by who? The same people who say this vax is safe and effective?

Or CNN

CNN? I'm a Brit.

By just about everyone, actually. FYI:

www.england.nhs.uk...

So then yes the same people that say this vaccine is safe and effective

originally posted by: sciencelol

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: sciencelol

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: sciencelol
I Was never anti vax until this vax.

Now I am anti all vaxes. I believe they cause autism

Are you being serious? If so, that claim was thoroughly debunked about the MMR jab when that nonsense was spread.

Debunked by who? The same people who say this vax is safe and effective?

Or CNN

The MMR/Autism debacle was a shining example of actual harm caused by folk spreading lies and disinformation about jabs.

You proud of that?

I believe it is a shining example of how long they have been lying to us

You can believe what you like but any chance of you responding to the link I posted?

The MMR/Autism thing here in the UK was indeed a shining example of folk lying to us about the jabs.

By antivaxxer idiots.

Seems nothing has changed?

Do please provide evidence as to why you might think the MMR jab caused Autism.

originally posted by: sciencelol

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: sciencelol

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: sciencelol
I Was never anti vax until this vax.

Now I am anti all vaxes. I believe they cause autism

Are you being serious? If so, that claim was thoroughly debunked about the MMR jab when that nonsense was spread.

Debunked by who? The same people who say this vax is safe and effective?

Or CNN

CNN? I'm a Brit.

By just about everyone, actually. FYI:

www.england.nhs.uk...

So then yes the same people that say this vaccine is safe and effective

So, provide evidence that MMR jabs caused Autism.

originally posted by: ScepticScot
Not everyone who choses not to get vaccinated is anti vax .

However its a convenient shorthand for those who post lies, misinformation and completely made bollocks about vaccines.

Since there are plenty of those in this site I will continue to use the term, thanks all the same.

Some folks are anti-vaxx in respect to the experimental Covid vax .
And some folks are anti- fact in respect to the experimental Covid vax .
The latter cannot make up their own minds so therefore they have to rely on government , the media , and their neighbors to tell them what to do .

a reply to: Gothmog

Its not a "vaccine" just because the definition was changed for political reasons.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: ScepticScot
Not everyone who choses not to get vaccinated is anti vax .

However its a convenient shorthand for those who post lies, misinformation and completely made bollocks about vaccines.

Since there are plenty of those in this site I will continue to use the term, thanks all the same.

Some folks are anti-vaxx in respect to the experimental Covid vax .
And some folks are anti- fact in respect to the experimental Covid vax .
The latter cannot make up their own minds so therefore they have to rely on government , the media , and their neighbors to tell them what to do .

Anti vaxers are anti fact. It's kind of their thing .

You can make up your own mind but you don't get to make up your own facts . Something anti vaxers seem to have an issue with.