Italian Institute Of Health Covid Death Adjustment.

originally posted by: ScepticScot
Doesn't matter how many times its claimed, having comorbidities doesn't mean they didn't die from covid.

factcheck.afp.com...

You do realise that according to the ONS in the UK 'when there are more than one comorbidities on a death certificate they PICK one which started the chain of events'.
This is just one of the gems you find in the way they make up their statistics on COVID 19.
How can anyone take that seriously?

a reply to: ScepticScot

You haven't formatted the link properly.

I'm sure last week was 15% higher than the 5 year average. I checked yesterday.

Week 42 - 2021

"In the week ending 22 October 2021 (Week 42), 11,308 deaths were registered in England and Wales; this was 131 more deaths than the previous week (Week 41) and 14.6% above the five-year average (1,443 more deaths)."

Week 42 - 2020

"The number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 16 October 2020 (Week 42) was 10,534; this was 580 more deaths than in Week 41.

In Week 42, the number of deaths registered was 6.8% above the five-year average (669 deaths higher)."


Looks like an increase to me. Choose any week you like. The annual figures will show the full story.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Smigg

It's a false claim , Italian death toll remains at 132,365 as of yesterday.
opendatadpc.maps.arcgis.com...

"Italy reduces covid death toll from 130K to 3,783," reads an apparent headline shared Oct. 18 on Instagram.

The text in the image goes on to say the "Italian Department of Health casually revised its 'Covid-19' official death toll down from over 130,000 to 3783."

The image is a screengrab from an article posted on NexusNewsfeed.com, which describes itself as a "vehicle for like-minded, independent thinkers to help create something new."
eu.usatoday.com...

Ahhh the MSM

The Italian Instutute of Health says your link is lying.

My link Shows The Italian Institute of Health are lying and have been from the word go.

You source is using Italian Institute of Health statistics

Is just lying to you about what they say.

So how it's perceived will depend on whether someone is double jabbed or not.

Does not being double jabbed make you really gullible?

Have you been double jabbed ?

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: ScepticScot

You haven't formatted the link properly.

I'm sure last week was 15% higher than the 5 year average. I checked yesterday.

Week 42 - 2021

"In the week ending 22 October 2021 (Week 42), 11,308 deaths were registered in England and Wales; this was 131 more deaths than the previous week (Week 41) and 14.6% above the five-year average (1,443 more deaths)."

Week 42 - 2020

"The number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 16 October 2020 (Week 42) was 10,534; this was 580 more deaths than in Week 41.

In Week 42, the number of deaths registered was 6.8% above the five-year average (669 deaths higher)."



Looks like an increase to me.

Looking a single week isn't really going to tell you anything.

At the two peaks of covid in 2020 there was far higher average deaths per week

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Smigg

It's a false claim , Italian death toll remains at 132,365 as of yesterday.
opendatadpc.maps.arcgis.com...

"Italy reduces covid death toll from 130K to 3,783," reads an apparent headline shared Oct. 18 on Instagram.

The text in the image goes on to say the "Italian Department of Health casually revised its 'Covid-19' official death toll down from over 130,000 to 3783."

The image is a screengrab from an article posted on NexusNewsfeed.com, which describes itself as a "vehicle for like-minded, independent thinkers to help create something new."
eu.usatoday.com...

Ahhh the MSM

The Italian Instutute of Health says your link is lying.

My link Shows The Italian Institute of Health are lying and have been from the word go.

You source is using Italian Institute of Health statistics

Is just lying to you about what they say.

So how it's perceived will depend on whether someone is double jabbed or not.

Does not being double jabbed make you really gullible?

Have you been double jabbed ?

Yep along with the majority of adults in the UK.

a reply to: ScepticScot

It's week on week consistently. I chose last week as it's the latest data.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Smigg

It's a false claim , Italian death toll remains at 132,365 as of yesterday.
opendatadpc.maps.arcgis.com...

"Italy reduces covid death toll from 130K to 3,783," reads an apparent headline shared Oct. 18 on Instagram.

The text in the image goes on to say the "Italian Department of Health casually revised its 'Covid-19' official death toll down from over 130,000 to 3783."

The image is a screengrab from an article posted on NexusNewsfeed.com, which describes itself as a "vehicle for like-minded, independent thinkers to help create something new."
eu.usatoday.com...

Ahhh the MSM

The Italian Instutute of Health says your link is lying.

My link Shows The Italian Institute of Health are lying and have been from the word go.

You source is using Italian Institute of Health statistics

Is just lying to you about what they say.

So how it's perceived will depend on whether someone is double jabbed or not.

Does not being double jabbed make you really gullible?

Have you been double jabbed ?

Yep along with the majority of adults in the UK.

Boom!

a reply to: ScepticScot

At the two peaks? So out of the year only a few weeks have higher death rates BEFORE vaccines.

If more people are dying every week bar a few then the data doesn't backup your position. Not at all.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Smigg

It's a false claim , Italian death toll remains at 132,365 as of yesterday.
opendatadpc.maps.arcgis.com...

"Italy reduces covid death toll from 130K to 3,783," reads an apparent headline shared Oct. 18 on Instagram.

The text in the image goes on to say the "Italian Department of Health casually revised its 'Covid-19' official death toll down from over 130,000 to 3783."

The image is a screengrab from an article posted on NexusNewsfeed.com, which describes itself as a "vehicle for like-minded, independent thinkers to help create something new."
eu.usatoday.com...

Ahhh the MSM

The Italian Instutute of Health says your link is lying.

My link Shows The Italian Institute of Health are lying and have been from the word go.

You source is using Italian Institute of Health statistics

Is just lying to you about what they say.

So how it's perceived will depend on whether someone is double jabbed or not.

Does not being double jabbed make you really gullible?

Have you been double jabbed ?

Yep along with the majority of simple of mind in the UK.

Fixed that for you,no bother.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Adults who are now dying at higher rates every week then they were before vaccines.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Week 41 - 2020

The number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 9 October 2020 (Week 41) was 9,954; this was nine more deaths than in Week 40.

In Week 41, the number of deaths registered was 1.5% above the five-year average (143 deaths higher).

Week 41 - 2021

In the week ending 15 October 2021 (Week 41), 11,177 deaths were registered in England and Wales; this was 370 more deaths than the previous week (Week 40) and 13.9% above the five-year average (1,366 more deaths).
The number of deaths registered in England in the week ending 15 October 2021 (Week 41) was 10,438; this was 374 more deaths than the previous week (Week 40) and 13.9% above the five-year average (1,270 more deaths).

originally posted by: glen200376

originally posted by: ScepticScot
Doesn't matter how many times its claimed, having comorbidities doesn't mean they didn't die from covid.

factcheck.afp.com...

You do realise that according to the ONS in the UK 'when there are more than one comorbidities on a death certificate they PICK one which started the chain of events'.
This is just one of the gems you find in the way they make up their statistics on COVID 19.
How can anyone take that seriously?

Not true.

www.ons.gov.uk...

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: ScepticScot

It's week on week consistently. I chose last week as it's the latest data.

We are tracking higher than 5 year average before 2020.

Deaths are way down compared to the peak deaths last year.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: ScepticScot

At the two peaks? So out of the year only a few weeks have higher death rates BEFORE vaccines.

If more people are dying every week bar a few then the data doesn't backup your position. Not at all.

Deaths from covid peaked in two waves . During those periods deaths were way higher. That completely backs up my position.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: ScepticScot

Week 41 - 2020

The number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 9 October 2020 (Week 41) was 9,954; this was nine more deaths than in Week 40.

In Week 41, the number of deaths registered was 1.5% above the five-year average (143 deaths higher).

Week 41 - 2021

In the week ending 15 October 2021 (Week 41), 11,177 deaths were registered in England and Wales; this was 370 more deaths than the previous week (Week 40) and 13.9% above the five-year average (1,366 more deaths).
The number of deaths registered in England in the week ending 15 October 2021 (Week 41) was 10,438; this was 374 more deaths than the previous week (Week 40) and 13.9% above the five-year average (1,270 more deaths).

In 2020 had periods 100% above the 5 year average, It's n the same ONS stats you are quoting from.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Maybe in confirmation bias land.

Let's be honest you need to be right about vaccines now that you've taken them. I on the other hand can afford to be wrong due to natural immunity.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: ScepticScot

Maybe in confirmation bias land.

Let's be honest you need to be right about vaccines now that you've taken them. I on the other hand can afford to be wrong due to natural immunity.

The overwhelming evidence is I am right.

a reply to: ScepticScot

If you say so.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: ScepticScot

If you say so.

The data says so.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Depending on what data you decide to cherry pick as relevant.