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Summary Article: www.nextbigfuture.com...
The Veteran Health Administration Study of 620,000 vaccinated individuals shows a decline in COVID-19 Vaccine effectiveness from February 1st to Mid August, 2021.
Overall vaccine protection was down to 53.9% on August 13th, from 92% in March.
J&J vaccine protection was down to 3% by August 13th. The J&J vaccine offers almost no protection after about three months.
The Pfizer vaccine effectiveness was down to 50% by August 13th.
Moderna provided just 64% protection by August 13th.
originally posted by: 727Sky
No problem as the boosters are on the way probably every six months to a year... Think of all the money they can make to fund their future gain of function projects !!
originally posted by: carewemust
originally posted by: 727Sky
No problem as the boosters are on the way probably every six months to a year... Think of all the money they can make to fund their future gain of function projects !!
The increasing number of vaccine-induced medical conditions are starting to be more widely known. I saw in another thread that "sudden death" is now officially (quietly) added as one of the potential side-effects of the Covid-19 vaccines.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
If a bullet proof vest reduced you chance of getting shot at all by 50% or more I think that sounds a win.
If it reduced your chance of getting hospitalised or killed by 90% + (as the vaccines do) then even better.
originally posted by: Deetermined
originally posted by: ScepticScot
If a bullet proof vest reduced you chance of getting shot at all by 50% or more I think that sounds a win.
If it reduced your chance of getting hospitalised or killed by 90% + (as the vaccines do) then even better.
That works two ways.
If the "vaccine" is only 90% effective for a week and 50% effective after four months, is it still worth it if you develop a 50% increase in developing long term Immune Disorders, blood clots, Parkinsons, Alzeheimers, or Dementia? This is the real question you need to ask yourself.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Deetermined
originally posted by: ScepticScot
If a bullet proof vest reduced you chance of getting shot at all by 50% or more I think that sounds a win.
If it reduced your chance of getting hospitalised or killed by 90% + (as the vaccines do) then even better.
That works two ways.
If the "vaccine" is only 90% effective for a week and 50% effective after four months, is it still worth it if you develop a 50% increase in developing long term Immune Disorders, blood clots, Parkinsons, Alzeheimers, or Dementia? This is the real question you need to ask yourself.
Since the effectiveness against severe outcomes seems at least relatively long lasting, and as there is no real evidence of am increased risk for any of those things (or at least far less risk than from covid itself), it absolutely seems worth it.
originally posted by: Nyiah
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Deetermined
originally posted by: ScepticScot
If a bullet proof vest reduced you chance of getting shot at all by 50% or more I think that sounds a win.
If it reduced your chance of getting hospitalised or killed by 90% + (as the vaccines do) then even better.
That works two ways.
If the "vaccine" is only 90% effective for a week and 50% effective after four months, is it still worth it if you develop a 50% increase in developing long term Immune Disorders, blood clots, Parkinsons, Alzeheimers, or Dementia? This is the real question you need to ask yourself.
Since the effectiveness against severe outcomes seems at least relatively long lasting, and as there is no real evidence of am increased risk for any of those things (or at least far less risk than from covid itself), it absolutely seems worth it.
Perfect example for the rest of the folks out there of snake oil working ^^
Some people have no qualms with prostrating in front of a hack of a limp willy savior shot, and being happily beholden to it's Multiple Shots A Year For Life commitment. That fervent All-In mentality is theirs and their s alone, though, so long as they keep it that way. Unless I can do similarly, like forcing a Vegan to eat meat for their health, too.
Since the effectiveness against severe outcomes seems at least relatively long lasting, and as there is no real evidence of am increased risk for any of those things (or at least far less risk than from covid itself), it absolutely seems worth it.
originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe
Covid changes fast just like the flu, which is why the flu jab is different every year.
They will over time change the covid vax to reflect the change in covid variants.
It's common sense.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Nyiah
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Deetermined
originally posted by: ScepticScot
If a bullet proof vest reduced you chance of getting shot at all by 50% or more I think that sounds a win.
If it reduced your chance of getting hospitalised or killed by 90% + (as the vaccines do) then even better.
That works two ways.
If the "vaccine" is only 90% effective for a week and 50% effective after four months, is it still worth it if you develop a 50% increase in developing long term Immune Disorders, blood clots, Parkinsons, Alzeheimers, or Dementia? This is the real question you need to ask yourself.
Since the effectiveness against severe outcomes seems at least relatively long lasting, and as there is no real evidence of am increased risk for any of those things (or at least far less risk than from covid itself), it absolutely seems worth it.
Perfect example for the rest of the folks out there of snake oil working ^^
Some people have no qualms with prostrating in front of a hack of a limp willy savior shot, and being happily beholden to it's Multiple Shots A Year For Life commitment. That fervent All-In mentality is theirs and their s alone, though, so long as they keep it that way. Unless I can do similarly, like forcing a Vegan to eat meat for their health, too.
The snake oil is the people pushing alternative unproven treatments for covid.
The evidence in favour of the vaccines is unequivocal.
originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: ScepticScot
Since the effectiveness against severe outcomes seems at least relatively long lasting, and as there is no real evidence of am increased risk for any of those things (or at least far less risk than from covid itself), it absolutely seems worth it.
Uh, there's as much evidence for vaccine injury as there is for the effectiveness of the vaccine, so that's just your opinion. You obviously haven't been keeping up on the number of vaccinated people who are still being hospitalized and dying, and that's not including the personal experiences of people right here on ATS who have told their stories and know first hand. Everyone should have the right to make their own personal decisions based on their own personal experiences and observations.
originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe
Covid changes fast just like the flu, which is why the flu jab is different every year.
They will over time change the covid vax to reflect the change in covid variants.
It's common sense.
originally posted by: bastion
It still remains 85%+ effective at stopping hospitalisation and 93% at stopping death after a year which is what it was designed to do.
The study is completely flawed as it's designed for a sterilising immunity vaccine where this one, like the majority of vaccines, isn't designed to do. Like pretty much every vaccine it induces protective immunity.
originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: ScepticScot
You already have a more than 90% likelihood of not needing to be hospitalized and a 99.8% likelihood of not dying.
There never was a need for vaccines, especially when they don't work and have never worked on respiratory diseases.