There is no FDA approved vaccine for COVID19

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: dwal1998

Have you grew a web between your fingers?

Nope.

Naw me nether.

Problem solved.

Just because you crossed the river on thin ice doesn’t mean that I would be safe following you. No matter how much you wave and shout that everything is perfectly safe.

My colleague has missed a week of work because his wife won’t stop bleeding.

My uncle is on a heart monitor.

My neighbour’s dad has started having horrific bruising.

My buddy’s kid just had to have emergency heart surgery.

Another colleague is dragging himself around work with a severely inflamed back nerve.

My mum is exhausted all the time.

All these issues arose within days of the jab.

In addition there are literally thousands of testimonials on the web from people from all walks of life that say they have been injured or lost loved ones to vaccine complications.

Can it all be attributed to the jab? I honestly don’t know.

Something else I don’t know is how someone can insist others get this injection when there are obviously risks.

I couldn’t, in good conscience, insist that someone not to get the injection as there are also risks from catching Covid. Not the sort of egg I want on my face.

People should be encouraged to get off their arses and research it for themselves in consideration of their own situation and health condition.

“Fact” checking sites and the 1% media is not a complete and reliable source of information when making a decision like this.

a reply to: chr0naut

Would not full approval by the FDA be a statutory criteria that is met?

You mean like Ivermectin hydroxychloroquine and for people who understand
how to take care of themselves hydrogen peroxide?

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: litterbaux

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: montybd
a reply to: chr0naut
Please show where the new vaccine is available and also show where the EUA has been ended.

Why? The contents of the vaccine that was under the EUA are the same as the contents of the compound that has received approval.

The EUA no longer stands as it is now superseded by the full approval. This was mentioned by montybd in this post.

It's obviously a big enough difference that the EUA hasn't been halted. How do you explain that?

When people are learning to drive, they probably had some sort of provisional license. When they get their full license, after fulfilling all the requirements in practical, and knowledge testing, they aren't given any paperwork that specifically terminates their provisional license, because it is obviously superseded by the full license.

I would guess it is the same for FDA 'licensing'.

From the FDA.

An Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) is a mechanism to facilitate the availability and use of medical countermeasures, including vaccines, during public health emergencies, such as the current COVID-19 pandemic. Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products, or unapproved uses of approved medical products in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions when certain statutory criteria have been met, including that there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives.

An Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) is a mechanism to facilitate the availability and use of medical countermeasures, including vaccines, during public health emergencies, such as the current COVID-19 pandemic. Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products, or unapproved uses of approved medical products in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions when certain statutory criteria have been met, including that there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives.

Would not full approval by the FDA be a statutory criteria that is met?

Also, it says that the EUA is for where there is "no adequate, approved, and available alternatives". In other words, if there is an approved alternative, the EUA is no longer applicable.

It's right there in the text you quoted.

Why is J&J and Moderna still being injected into people?

Because they have EUA approval for use.

I don't want to make this too personal but did you even read what you wrote? How can you have an approved vaccine and still have vaccines under EUA?

You can't have it both ways, no matter how much you try to spin it.

There's only two options here. The Pfizer vaccine is not approved therefore the others can exist under law. Or the Pfizer vaccine is approved and the JJ and Moderna vaccines are illegal.

a reply to: NorthOfStuff

And yet me and mine are all just fine and dandy.

Plus so is everyone else i know that's been double vaccinated without any sort of serious adverse effects whatsoever.

You don't want to get vaccinated NorthOfStuff, don't get vaccinated, after all it's your life.

a reply to: andy06shake

I know a lot of folks, mostly through work.
I have a fairly large family as well.

Other than those mentioned in my last post everyone else appears to be fine so far and I hope it stays that way. I hope my distrust is entirely unfounded but at this point I’m still not sure.

I am also lucky that I don’t know anyone that was seriously ill with Covid.

I think that I have a fairly good chance of coming through Covid ok if I get it.

I do those old fashioned things that our doctors always used to stress before this pandemic like eating well, exercising, taking vitamins and supplements, getting a good sleep, and keeping my stress levels as low as possible.

Not sure about your Chief Medical Officer and Politicians Andy but where I am we haven’t heard a peep about being encouraged to look after ourselves and follow the old saying “an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.”

a reply to: NorthOfStuff

Me to mate, know a right good few people that is, and a lot that of them work in the NHS.

And they are all in the same boat as myself, singing the same tune, that being everyone we know that's been vaccinated are all fine and dandy.

The majority of such experiencing nothing more than a sore arm or COVID 19 like symptoms for a day or so after their jag.

I literally don't know of anyone that's died from being vaccinated NorthOfStuff.

Hope everything goes well for you and yours NorthOfStuff, ive had COVID 19, was not very nice, but i beat the worst of it in 3 days, my Mrs on the other hand completely different experience, scared the bloody life out of us for 10 long days.

a reply to: carewemust

would someone please infect me , I will isolate myself and take some zink and a z-pak along with vitamin d-3 and C . I will be ok , I just want better protection than the two Moderna shots I got . I will not take the booster and I do not care if than makes me not fully vaccinated.

a reply to: 10uoutlaw

So why take the first two shots and then not the booster?

As to the Vitamin D3 & Vitamin C, we should probably all be taking those anyway in an endeavour to keep our immune systems fuelled.

This happened years ago during my dive into the food industry (I was consuming it as well at the time diet soda.)
I switched to back to sugar after reading the information the other person did not. I am not claiming aspartame is the cause of the diabeties epidemic just noting what happened in personal experience. Excessive Fluoride is definitely something to look into. Neither of us consumed fluoridated water. The books I gained this knowledge at were located at the Border's book store B and N and the public library. Possibly Eric Schosler but would have to look.
The only reason I bring it up at all is simple whether or not the "fda" approved an unavailable version which has the same ingredients (what about manufacturing process?) as the one currently available w/eua it does not mean either are safe.

a reply to: chr0naut

a reply to: chr0naut
The law states that when an effective alternative is available and approved the others must be not be used.

Please show where the approved vaccine is available and the others have been removed from use.

You are playing with words.

Keep circling back.

a reply to: andy06shake

I’m happy to hear that you and Mrs. Andy got through it and hopefully she has no lasting effects.

a reply to: NorthOfStuff

Cheers NorthOfStuff

She's fine now and all tickety-boo.

Double AstraZeneca flavoured with no lasting effects ive heard about.

FDA approval is very specific. Approval assigns an NDC # here in the states. It also proscribes specific factories the medication can me manufactured in. Cominarty has a particular NDC and where it can be produced.

Anything not that NDC, not produced at the approved factory is NOT a fully FDA approved product.

The EUA produced Pfizer shot has a different NDC and was NOT produced at the approved factory. Legally, the EUA formulation is NOT fully FDA approved based on Cominarty's approval.

FDA does have allowance for medications produced prior to full approval but IAW full approval criteria, for the meds to be brought back and labelled under the FDA approved labeling. This is not happening? Why??? The EUA produced Pfizer shot was NOT produced IAW full approval criteria.

Also, remember the whole military anthrax debacle? After the program was turned off and turned back on again, it had to be turned off again because the one approved factory was no-goed. They just couldn't start producing elsewhere, unless at an FDA approved factory, approved for that particular med.

It's more than semantics TPTB and MSM are trying to foist upon the public. It truly is a legal issue...and is being completely ignored right to our faces.

The assertion that there is no fully FDA approved C19 vax available is currently true, until Cominarty with the proper NDC#, made in the approved factory.

originally posted by: bastion
The FDA fully approved Pfizer on 23rd August.FDA

Highly doubt any of the UK story is true as parents have to sign consent forms and in the case of the made up Norfolk death, no school vaccinations have occured yet; the vaccination is due to be held on Nov 15th.

If it's the Solihul made up claim then the teenager was never vaccinated in the first place, let alone in school. The antivax group handed in fake paperwork to police trying to use the Nuremberg code to file murder charges against the school so were rightfully told to stop wasting police time LARPing.

There were a group of anti-vaxxers in Birmingham who tried to charge the covid vaccine with murder but police laughed at them and explained they're entitled to their opinion but it's wrong and now how criminal charges work in the UK. There's no basic proof any of the claim is true such as a crime ref number.

Where is Comirnaty available from, because it may have been approved, but it hasn't been rolled out yet. I don't know how valid this link is, but it's at least as good as a link from the criminals at Pfizer (remember 4.6 billion in criminal fines).... Linky

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: incoserv

It is unbelievable when you hear of that level of stupidity, you really have to think why not let them go ahead with the plan.

a reply to: andy06shake

Because if you need a booster the first two shots were useless and I have yet to get the virus nor has anyone in my family . My wife and I only get exposure when we go shopping , most of the stuff we do is outdoors and very few if any people around .It is my choice and if you don't approve I don't care .

a reply to: andy06shake

I have heard about a vaccine that uses inert virus in it much like flu shots and I may consider taking that one if it ever comes out .

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: chr0naut

Would not full approval by the FDA be a statutory criteria that is met?

You mean like Ivermectin hydroxychloroquine and for people who understand
how to take care of themselves hydrogen peroxide?

statutory - adjective

Ivermectin, HQC, and peroxide are not approved treatments for COVID-19 in the USA.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: CrazyFox

Vaccines are not gene therapy nether. LoL

www.genomicseducation.hee.nhs.uk...
www.webmd.com...
www.reuters.com...

Choose to believe as you wish CrazyFox.

Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine and Comirnaty are identical and the same stuff.

There is zero evidence of this....because nobody knows the exact ingredients because it is all a secret because they are afraid of someone stealing it.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: NorthOfStuff

Cheers NorthOfStuff

She's fine now and all tickety-boo.

Double AstraZeneca flavoured with no lasting effects ive heard about.

How would anyone know about lasting effects of something that is not even a year old.

I mean......SeRiOuSlY?!