There is no FDA approved vaccine for COVID19

a reply to: ATruGod

Im happy with a working vaccine ATruGod if that helps.

Bit late for me choice wise, i was double Pfizer flavoured before it was FDA approved.

I get whats being suggested Comirnaty is covered and liability protection where as Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is not.

That don't stop them being exactly the same vaccine.

As to the rest of the mumbo-jumbo presented like "small child died after taking the COVID19 vaccine" or the vaccines causing miscarriage, what's lacking there is any sort of tangible evidence to support the claims.

originally posted by: ATruGod

originally posted by: andy06shake

Choose to believe as you wish CrazyFox.

Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine and Comirnaty are identical and the same stuff.

Its all in the label...one is covered under EUA and liability protected, the other is neither of those, which would You want?

The one that isn't/won't be available?

Completely false.

42 U.S. Code § 300aa–22 - Standards of responsibility

(1)No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, if the injury or death resulted from side effects that were unavoidable even though the vaccine was properly prepared and was accompanied by proper directions and warnings.

There is no liability for any vaccine in America. If anything the approved version has less liability, as it is now an actual vaccine.

I Use Aspartame as an example as based on the evidence of first hand experience. Personally know someone who consumed no sugar but drank energy drinks with it in it and that person now has diabetes. I warned that person that it could cause it (also the reason I quit being sugar free.) Personally consumed more sugar than the other person consumed of aspartame.
I am not giving anyone medical/health advice here just stating data.

a reply to: marg6043

The best way..

Catch covid-19, eat chicken soup for a few days, recover, and you've joined 36 million Americans who are free from covid-19 health concerns.

originally posted by: incoserv

originally posted by: PiratesCut
a reply to: DeathSlayer

Rumble, yeah. After a few words it’s join join join…..

Again with attacking the platform and completely ignoring the content.

The reputation of the platform discredits the content. It's not know for its high editorial standards.

originally posted by: carewemust
The best way..

Catch covid-19, eat chicken soup for a few days, recover, and you've joined 36 million Americans who are free from covid-19 health concerns.

One week's worth of missed shifts. I'm sure the bank won't mind when they ask for the mortgage payment.

If it is not available yet and the one with "identical ingredients" is what is being substituted for the one that has been "approved" is still only available as an eau how is it false. Please explain. Or show how the "approved" one is available at this time.
This comirnty (sp) has already been shown to be word salad
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: CrazyFox
Edited my last post please show the microscopic analysis that proves it is the same.
NIH link to aspartame rat poison from said post.FDA Approved rat poison sweetener Aspartame
Also shown to cause diabetes.
I will spell it as it is.
LIES all of it.
To those who know FDA approval does not mean it's safe.
Those who read know the "approved gene manipulation treatment" that has been approved is still not available.

a reply to: andy06shake

The diabetes epidemics around the world started well before Aspartame came on to the market.

Why not look at elevated levels of Fluoride? That seems to correlate better. Fluoride is also used as a preservative in those test tubes where they take blood to test for HbA1c levels, so it does have some effect there.

originally posted by: carewemust
The best way..

Catch covid-19, eat chicken soup for a few days, recover, and you've joined 36 million Americans who are free from covid-19 health concerns.

Does that work for coronaviruses? Like for the common cold? You get it once and have chicken soup and never ever have it again?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: dwal1998

Have you grew a web between your fingers?

Nope.

Naw me nether.

Problem solved.

They could have grown a web between their ears. That is way harder to detect.

originally posted by: montybd
Why do we continue this same discussion over and over. It has been covered. Look at the EUA under law of the US. This has also been covered many times. EUA is supposed to only be in effect while no alternative approved treatments are available. Once one is available then the EUA must be ended. If this were to happen then all the other vax have to be removed from use.

A new vax has been approved but not released to the market. This allows the others to continue to be used.

Follow the money.

The new vax has NOT been released in the wild.

I can't believe this post has no stars, yet.

You are exactly correct. The litmus test is something even an 8 year old would understand. How are shots still being used under EUA if we have a proven, effective, FDA approved option available.

They wouldn't be. They should have been stopped in their tracks.

originally posted by: montybd
Why do we continue this same discussion over and over. It has been covered. Look at the EUA under law of the US. This has also been covered many times. EUA is supposed to only be in effect while no alternative approved treatments are available. Once one is available then the EUA must be ended. If this were to happen then all the other vax have to be removed from use.

A new vax has been approved but not released to the market. This allows the others to continue to be used.

Follow the money.

The new vax has NOT been released in the wild.

What would be the point of going through an expensive and extended approval process for a vaccine, and then changing things so that what gets approved isn't the vaccine that has been going through the process all this time?

Honestly, have you thought this through?

a reply to: chr0naut

Apparently, the branded version is the same exact formula. You bring up a good point though, even a name change, legally, can make enough difference in some cases.

It depends on which sets of rules you are using today. To make note, those rules can change at any time.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: carewemust
The best way..

Catch covid-19, eat chicken soup for a few days, recover, and you've joined 36 million Americans who are free from covid-19 health concerns.

One week's worth of missed shifts. I'm sure the bank won't mind when they ask for the mortgage payment.

If your at any given time 1 weeks pay away from losing your home it was already lost long ago

a reply to: chr0naut
Please show where the new vaccine is available and also show where the EUA has been ended.

originally posted by: litterbaux
a reply to: chr0naut

Apparently, the branded version is the same exact formula. You bring up a good point though, even a name change, legally, can make enough difference in some cases.

It depends on which sets of rules you are using today. To make note, those rules can change at any time.

The approval process isn't about brand registration. It is to ensure that the medicine is safe and fit for use.

Often medicines are named differently in different regions, or from different manufacturers (in the case of generics). It is the compounds' particular chemistry that is approved, or not.

A rose by any other name...

a reply to: bastion

I'm pretty sure the FDA and Big Pharma are cozy buddies, if the FDA is not funded by Big Pharma, I know that the gates foundation funds both the FDA and Big Pharma. Conflict of interests?

originally posted by: montybd
a reply to: chr0naut
Please show where the new vaccine is available and also show where the EUA has been ended.

Why? The contents of the vaccine that was under the EUA are the same as the contents of the compound that has received approval.

The EUA no longer stands as it is now superseded by the full approval. This was mentioned by montybd in this post.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: montybd
a reply to: chr0naut
Please show where the new vaccine is available and also show where the EUA has been ended.

Why? The contents of the vaccine that was under the EUA are the same as the contents of the compound that has received approval.

The EUA no longer stands as it is now superseded by the full approval. This was mentioned by montybd in this post.

It's obviously a big enough difference that the EUA hasn't been halted. How do you explain that?

From the FDA.

An Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) is a mechanism to facilitate the availability and use of medical countermeasures, including vaccines, during public health emergencies, such as the current COVID-19 pandemic. Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products, or unapproved uses of approved medical products in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions when certain statutory criteria have been met, including that there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives.

Why is J&J and Moderna still being injected into people?

originally posted by: litterbaux

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: montybd
a reply to: chr0naut
Please show where the new vaccine is available and also show where the EUA has been ended.

Why? The contents of the vaccine that was under the EUA are the same as the contents of the compound that has received approval.

The EUA no longer stands as it is now superseded by the full approval. This was mentioned by montybd in this post.

It's obviously a big enough difference that the EUA hasn't been halted. How do you explain that?

When people are learning to drive, they probably had some sort of provisional license. When they get their full license, after fulfilling all the requirements in practical, and knowledge testing, they aren't given any paperwork that specifically terminates their provisional license, because it is obviously superseded by the full license.

I would guess it is the same for FDA 'licensing'.

From the FDA.

An Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) is a mechanism to facilitate the availability and use of medical countermeasures, including vaccines, during public health emergencies, such as the current COVID-19 pandemic. Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products, or unapproved uses of approved medical products in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions when certain statutory criteria have been met, including that there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives.

An Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) is a mechanism to facilitate the availability and use of medical countermeasures, including vaccines, during public health emergencies, such as the current COVID-19 pandemic. Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products, or unapproved uses of approved medical products in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions when certain statutory criteria have been met, including that there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives.

Would not full approval by the FDA be a statutory criteria that is met?

Also, it says that the EUA is for where there is "no adequate, approved, and available alternatives". In other words, if there is an approved alternative, the EUA is no longer applicable.

It's right there in the text you quoted.

Why is J&J and Moderna still being injected into people?

Because they have EUA approval for use.