What are we to believe as this is terrible news if true

People are coming out of cancer remission. All sorts of deaths are way up. Strokes, heart attacks. I dont know about 5% per month, but just stay tuned this winter. Im looking at January/ February 2022 to be very telling. We should have an idea as to where we are at by then.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Playing around with your own body with vaccines and potentially damaging long term. Not a smart thing to do. Best approach is let nature take care of your body instead of letting drugs take care of your body.

a reply to: visitedbythem

dont worry hey'll blame the unvaxed, because its easy

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: 727Sky
Like the title says what are we to believe with stories like this ? If this is true then some of the dire warnings we have been hearing just might be the truth. wonder what the consequences will be for those who know yet still push the vaccines ? Full title is : It gets worse – A comparison of official Government reports suggest the Fully Vaccinated are developing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome much faster than anticipated

Latest UK PHE Vaccine Surveillance Report figures on Covid -19 cases show that doubly vaccinated 40-79 year olds have lost 44% of their immune system capability. Their immune systems are deteriorating at around 5% per week (between 3.8% and 9.1%).

If this continues then 30-59 year olds will have zero Covid/viral defence (and perhaps a form of acquired immunodeficiency syndrome) by Christmas and all double vaccinated people over 30 will have completely lost the part of their immune system that tackles Covid-19 by January next year.

By a concerned reader

The 5 Public Health England (PHE) tables below from their excellent Vaccine Surveillance Report of all fully genome sequenced delta cases, separated by 5 weeks, clearly show the progressive damage that the vaccines are doing to the immune system’s response. PHE have done so much great work and the picture is very clear.

Here is the weekly decline in doubly vaccinated immune system performance compared to unvaxxed people. Vaccine efficacy is measured using Pfizer’s vaccine effectiveness formula…
(Unvaxxed case rate – Vaxxed case rate)/the Larger of Unvaxxed or Vaxxed case rate – We are using the ratio of vaxxed to unvaxxed case numbers to determine vaccine efficiency just as Pfizer itself do

Check provided link for stats and more
theexpose.uk...

The source has zero credibility, and it's massively misrepresenting normal things such as antibody dropoff to covid as if they were immune dropoff to everything.

IF this were true we'd be seeing an unprecedented spike in disease outbreaks on a global scale.

I don't know if any of you remember back to the 1980s when AIDS was the hot topic, but people with AIDS suffered systemic immune system breakdowns and they started turning up with all kinds of diseases that they shouldn't have been suffering from. Let alone dying

If the vax were destroying people's immune systems we'd be seeing that exact same Patten, but we aren't, so it clearly isn't happening.

Given that the vax was given to the old and to the sick first, they'd be dying off by the million from preventable diseases or things that aren't even really considered diseases any more.

We'd also be seeing independent reports in reputable journals, not in scandal rags that by their own admission are blocked from all of the main social networks for spreading misinformation.

There is no component or combination of components in the Covid vax that could destroy your immune system, if the vax was doing it then we'd also see a similar effect form the virus as most of the vax is either a harmless carrier used in man y other vaxes or is related to Covid.

There are currently increases in things like shingles, and other diseases people have lived with for decades popping back up.

IN the current environment, what do you think would happen to an article that pointed out this link and purposefully showed a connection to COVID? You think you would just read about that in the NY Times?

Do you work for phizer or something? Most of us are looking for the truth, not looking to immediately defend the most unethical companies on the planet.

If the immune response overall was going down, and not just the response to COVID, then it would make sense they are freaking out entirely about people needing boosters while they figure out how they are going to try and fix the incoming problems.

originally posted by: visitedbythem
People are coming out of cancer remission. All sorts of deaths are way up. Strokes, heart attacks. I dont know about 5% per month, but just stay tuned this winter. Im looking at January/ February 2022 to be very telling. We should have an idea as to where we are at by then.

You will not be able to get raw statistics. Much of the raw data from 2020 is still unavailable. Things like cancer rates, death rates, age groups, hospitalizations, etc, etc. The data required to really crunch these COVID numbers is not available to us. Any other year we would have the data by now.

a reply to: TrollMagnet

Here's the problem: Everyone is told this vaccine weakens their immune response, so now anything that goes wrong with anyone for any reason becomes proof that the vaccine has bad results.

Now, I'm not saying that it does or doesn't, but I am saying that these things do happen. And they happen on their own. My own grandmother got shingles twice. She never lived long enough to even know what COVID was.

You cannot just assume that because you knew someone who was to all appearances healthy, then they get vaccinated, then ... something happens ... that it only happened because of the shot. Things can and do happen to otherwise healthy people all the time.

I work in a situation where we produce cancer appointment, treatment, and information materials. Some of the things we produce are "survivor stories" where people who have had and beaten their cancers tell their tales. You might be surprised how many of them were also extremely physically healthy people going in and thus thought, "How could this be happening to me? I did everything right."

a reply to: 727Sky

If top officials begin leaving the U.K., like they did in Afghanistan, we'll know why.

Monitor them 24/7.

a reply to: ketsuko

You think you are correct, because you are assuming bad things happening to people cannot be statistically parsed. Your argument is incoherent and doesn't actually make any sense.

Assume that if you know a healthy person and something bad happens to them, what were the odds of that thing happening to them if they did nothing except what they wanted. Were they just destined for a stroke or cardiovascular problems. Was it their diet? Lifestyle?

People under 30 have been dying of natural causes quite a bit, and there is not a single story written about it.

No one is allowed to talk about it, no one is allowed to crunch death stats from 2020.

Your argument is nothing to see here. Statistically speaking, on a case by case basis of bad outcomes for healthy individuals, everything looks much worse than the group as a whole. The only way anyone can try to dismiss anything negative is by saying that outcome is just a small fraction of the shots administered. But when something bad happens to a young healthy person with no history, who just happened to recently take an experimental shot, that is not statistically insignificant and cannot be dismissed. What were the odds of that person having a bad life outcome without the vax? You CAN actually crunch that data, and if you possessed the intellect to do that, you would see things aren't adding up.

SOMEONE IS LYING. Where are the autopsies of the people dying of stroke at young ages? Why is there not more PUBLIC data, only narratives speculating what the data would be if we actually had it and telling us all is well.

You would have to be a complete fool ignorant of history to move forward and do what you are told.

a reply to: TrollMagnet

This is the inverse of everyone dying from COVID, but they were really dying with COVID. There was a difference.

Stop being afraid of your own shadow. You're as bad the ones who are so afraid of COVID they hide under their beds and demand we all get vaccinated or be censured from all society.

originally posted by: visitedbythem
People are coming out of cancer remission. All sorts of deaths are way up. Strokes, heart attacks. I dont know about 5% per month, but just stay tuned this winter. Im looking at January/ February 2022 to be very telling. We should have an idea as to where we are at by then.

I'm seeing this in my own (vaxxed) family and friends. (2 out of cancer remission, 1 stroke) Very worrying and I'm scared for them. My mother was in the hospital recently (BP/dehydration issues-- unvaxxed) and just during visiting a couple hours we kept hearing urgent alarms going off. One of the nurses was talking and we heard her say she'd never seen so many strokes and heart attacks. yes, yes.. It's ENTIRELY unrelated.. Right?!

a reply to: Starcrossd

Again, not saying it is or it isn't, but everyone was dying of COVID, and in the end, we discovered it was something like 6% who actually were killed by it and not something else while they tested positive for it. Now who can say how much COVID was a factor in those other deaths. We can't know how many were asymptomatic, for example, and how many were ill with it at the same time making it a contributing factor.

But we could be looking at something similar with the vaccine. Is it to blame? Perhaps in some cases. Does it contribute? Again, maybe in some cases. Is it causing all of this? Almost certainly not.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: 727Sky

Like the title says what are we to believe with stories like this ?

Depends on if you want to believe

No truer words have been stated.

If enough humans believe ... It is the beginning steps to becoming real. No matter how ridiculous.

When I first heard of the depopulation virus/Vax theory. I did my best to ignore it due to the simple fact that it makes zero sense, seeing as there's a few asteroids in the near future with a higher probability than the whole Bill Gates is the devil in cardigans and Andy Griffith skin, right?

But the more numbskulls jumping the band wagon and truly believing ... It sets the wheels in motion. And since the string theory makes a lot of even brilliant people truly believe everything is possible in other universes and dimensions... Along side dark matter, invisibly connecting everything. It's only a matter of time before even the most ridiculous theories do begin to influence our experiences, beliefs, and inevitably our future in this reality regardless of the lack of scientific evidence. It's the only possible way a fake virus/vaccine Mary Poppins cinderalla story is even able to come this far into fruition as we are witnessing before our very eyes.

We assumed when we are told by smart people to turn your televisions off... We thought they meant ... Because it's just making you more dumb. Never in a million years would we have thought they actually meant turn your televisions off due to media belief actually directly influencing and creating our future.

Sometimes what is really happening within this space/time is far more bizarre than anything you can watch on the sci-fi network. And the turn your TV off and read a book culture's IQ is now getting it's coup de grace via the internet and a new level of dumb@$$.

Darwinism was more interesting back when death was real. Now we don't even get to live and see what all that rage was about

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
Overstatement, and it won't reach zero.

The antibody levels drop of when the virusspike proteins levels drop off. Your body slows down production because they aren't needed. If you get infected with Covid again they go back up again.

This is how things are with every other vaccine.

We often disagree but this I want to highlight because lack of present antibodies is not a safe indicator for not having an infection earlier. I also doubt the linearity of the curve, 5% a week even if true, it's seldom a linear process with things like this.

(I am unvaccinated against this one)

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: TrollMagnet

This is the inverse of everyone dying from COVID, but they were really dying with COVID. There was a difference.

Stop being afraid of your own shadow. You're as bad the ones who are so afraid of COVID they hide under their beds and demand we all get vaccinated or be censured from all society.

You need to re-read what I said genius. I just rode 10,000 miles across this country on a motorcycle and hung out with groups of people all over the place.

Put your foil helmet back on

a reply to: [post=26178420]727Sky[/postW]

What to believe?

Start with the primary source, not a shonky website.

What do the primary sources say about the immune system? Nothing.

At some point, The Expose has conflated immunity to COVID with immunity period.

Either the editors are staggeringly ignorant - in which case they should educate themselves or avoid the topic - or they are dishonest beyond belief.

More worryingly, a lot of people seem happy to spread the lies.

Deny ignorance.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

‘The biggest lie ever told’ ‘no one would ever take the vaccine if they actually read the clinical literature…’ ?

No one in the US would ever eat processed food if they actually read the nutritional information and USDA regs.

An entertaining rhetorical device, nothing more.

a reply to: 727Sky

so people are still looking for a conspiracy? i have been vaccinated twice, as have almost all the people around me. in our office, about 90% have been vaccinated. so far, no one has had any complaints. but those who have had covid (with a mild course) tell other stories: physical and mental exhaustion is one of the symptoms they mention. some young people who have been hit really hard can hardly climb stairs today. i have been vaccinated many times in my life. vaccinations protect, but they can always have side effects.

originally posted by: DanZoller
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Playing around with your own body with vaccines and potentially damaging long term. Not a smart thing to do. Best approach is let nature take care of your body instead of letting drugs take care of your body.

I will be sure to tell that to the old lady down the street form me who caught Polio as a child.

originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese
a reply to: AaarghZombies

‘The biggest lie ever told’ ‘no one would ever take the vaccine if they actually read the clinical literature…’ ?

No one in the US would ever eat processed food if they actually read the nutritional information and USDA regs.

An entertaining rhetorical device, nothing more.

This might be a conspiracy website but some of us here are scientists by trade, or by education. Some of us are also in pharmaceuticals, or related industries.

When I read threads like this I don't know whether to facepalm or to check that my gun is cleaned and oiled.

There are so many things wrong with threads like this that I just don't know where to start.

A lot of what is being suggested is biologically impossible, some of it violates the laws of physic, and there are clearly a lot of people on this site who don't understand statistics.

originally posted by: onoloufo
a reply to: 727Sky

so people are still looking for a conspiracy? i have been vaccinated twice, as have almost all the people around me. in our office, about 90% have been vaccinated. so far, no one has had any complaints. but those who have had covid (with a mild course) tell other stories: physical and mental exhaustion is one of the symptoms they mention. some young people who have been hit really hard can hardly climb stairs today. i have been vaccinated many times in my life. vaccinations protect, but they can always have side effects.

This is probably the most scrutinized vaccine in human history, and it's been given to hundreds of millions of people.

If there were a conspiracy it would have been noticed by somebody a long time ago, and if the problems that the OP is suggesting were real it would already have killed millions of people as the shot was given to the old and vulnerable first, and it's not started killing them yet.