Senemut Astronomical Ceiling Turns the World on its Head

Maybe they were using mirrors or it should be looked at through the mirror?

originally posted by: baburak
Maybe they were using mirrors or it should be looked at through the mirror?

A mirror would not make Sirius, which we see is higher in the sky than Orion on the Senemut Ceiling, lower. A mirror would not bring Sirius and Orion from being above the line of the ecliptic on the Senemut Ceiling to below the ecliptic.

SC

Can I just be the first to say..."Who Cares?"

Really...in 2021, does it even MATTER what position the earth was in Millenia ago?
Does it matter who built the Pyramids, whether the Sphinx has water damage, whether Sumerian Kings lived to be 1k years old? NO.

Some half retarded picture drawer decided to paint some pretty figures on a ceiling thousands of years ago, and did it backwards...SO WHAT!?
Maybe it was his first day on the job. Maybe he was incompetent. Maybe the Earth WAS upside down at some point in history.

So please tell me how this is going to solve any problem myself or the World has in 2021? Why are people wasting time and energy caring what a group of people drew thousands of years ago??

They didn't even have the wheel, but for sure knew all about the stars and Universe.
To continue travelling down these roads is an exercise in futility because they were just some people...that lived once...and when you actually do proper research...will find out they were actually pretty stupid overall.

originally posted by: MrBuddy
Can I just be the first to say..."Who Cares?"

About Scott Creighton's work in general? I think others might have beaten you to it ....

originally posted by: MrBuddy
Really...in 2021, does it even MATTER what position the earth was in Millenia ago?

For all sorts of geological and scientific reasons: yes, it would matter if the earth had been in a significantly different position millennia ago.

However, this is unlikely.

originally posted by: MrBuddy

Does it matter who built the Pyramids, whether the Sphinx has water damage, whether Sumerian Kings lived to be 1k years old? NO.

All these questions matter, because we need a full appreciation of the past to be able to plan for the future.

originally posted by: MrBuddy

Some half retarded picture drawer decided to paint some pretty figures on a ceiling thousands of years ago, and did it backwards...SO WHAT!?

You think the people who painted this were " half retarded"?

Really?

An artist would have had to belong to the scribal class, and undergone a rigorous training.

originally posted by: MrBuddy
Maybe it was his first day on the job. Maybe he was incompetent. Maybe the Earth WAS upside down at some point in history.

It wasn't. He wasn't. It wasn't.

originally posted by: MrBuddy
So please tell me how this is going to solve any problem myself or the World has in 2021? Why are people wasting time and energy caring what a group of people drew thousands of years ago??

Because, as stated previously, we need a full appreciation of the past - human, geological, cosmological, etc. - in order to be able to plan for the future.

originally posted by: MrBuddy

They didn't even have the wheel

They had the wheel.

originally posted by: MrBuddy
but for sure knew all about the stars and Universe.

They had some knowledge: perhaps not as much as is sometimes claimed, but some.

originally posted by: MrBuddy
To continue travelling down these roads is an exercise in futility because they were just some people...that lived once...and when you actually do proper research...will find out they were actually pretty stupid overall.

Can you cite some evidence to support your assertion that " they were actually pretty stupid overall?"

originally posted by: MrBuddy
Can I just be the first to say..."Who Cares?"

You're perfectly entitled to your opinion, so, of course you can say, "Who cares?"

Some care, many don't. In fact, I'd even guess that most don't. Our ancient past is just not most folks' bag.

However, if we do not fully know our past, then we cannot learn from it or understand how it might affect our future. And that, at least to me, is a pretty big deal.

SC

a reply to: YouSir

The resulting orbital oscillation's would still be felt today...just thinking of the amount of energy required to cause the planet to shift it's orientation would take being slammed by another planetary/moon sized object...

That is the most Ludicrous, insane, unbelievable possibility, EVER! EVER!!

But yet not one scientist has proposed such a possibility. In all of history one can not find written somewhere, anywhere, of such a event. Why? Because Scientists have painted themselves into a paradigm where such a event could never happen.

But yet, there it is, sitting on the bottom of the Pacific, Arctic ocean bed, evidence, DIRECT EVIDENCE, that such a event actually did take place. The interaction of a "Moon" sized spherical object coming into direct, controlled contact with planet earth.

Did the Earth Rotate in the opposite direction in the past? The direct evidence suggests, it did. At least, twice. Did the Earths Axis of rotation get "Adjusted", in the past? The direct evidence suggests, yes. At least twice.

The Sun rose in the west? Egyptian evidence?
November 30, 2014 / Ancient egypt, Earth, Earth flip, Electric Universe theory, Harakhte, Herodus, Plasma mythology, tomb of Senmut

sun reverse egyptian evidence westIs there any evidence that previously the Sun rose in west and set in the east, the reverse of today?

If the sun ever did rise in the west then this would suggest a flipping or reversing of the either the earths rotation or the planets hemispheres.

If this did happen and people survived the reversing earth event then there should be some form of ancient written or oral recording of this event, even if it is just mythology.

Would this have triggered a magnetic reversal or been triggered by one? Would an Earth magnetic field reversal be due to the planet physically flip over?

Egyptian evidence that the sun set in the east?

[Herodus talking to Egyptian priests] four times in this period (so they told me) the sun rose contrary to his wont; twice he rose where he now sets, and twice he set where he now rises.

Pomponius Mela, a Latin author of the first century, wrote: “The Egyptians pride themselves on being the most ancient people in the world. In their authentic annals . . . one may read that since they have been in existence, the course of the stars has changed direction four times, and that the sun has set twice in that part of the sky where it rises today.”

The Magical Papyrus Harris speaks of a cosmic upheaval of fire and water when “the south becomes north, and the Earth turns over.” In the Papyrus Ipuwer it is similarly stated that “the land turns round [over] as does a potter’s wheel” and the “Earth turned upside down.”

www.everythingselectric.com...

Could the Sahara Desert be the result of Planetary reversal?

Deserts would cover North America, arid sand dunes would replace expanses of the Amazon rainforest in South America, and lush, green landscapes would flourish from central Africa to the Middle East, according to a computer simulation presented earlier this month at the annual European Geosciences Union General Assembly 2018 in Austria.

www.livescience.com...

The last time it Rained in the Sahara, 5500 B.C.

According to a new study recently published in the journal Science Advances, evidence shows that humans occupied much of the Sahara during the ‘wet period’ around 8,000 years ago.

Through an analysis of marine sediments, researchers at the University of Arizona have determined rainfall patterns in the Sahara over a period of 6,000 years obtaining fascinating results. The UA-led team has identified the climate pattern that generated a “Green Sahara” from 5,000 to 11,000 years ago. The region had 10 times the rainfall it does today.

As it turns out, what is now the Sahara Desert was the home of hunter-gatherers who lived off the animals and plants present in the savannas of the region and off the wooded prairies sometime between 5,000 and 11,000 years ago.

www.ancient-code.com...



When you command the ability to rotate, start, stop a planets rotation, angle to the Sun, your technically a "terraformer", not a god.

a reply to: MrBuddy

Just an FYI.....this thread isnt about saving the planet last time I checked. Sounds like someone forgot to take their meds.

a reply to: Scott Creighton

If someone were sitting in said chair gazing into a lit vessel of water or looking into a mirror what does one think the image on the ceiling would then look like?

Mods same thought as "baburak" please remove.

a reply to: Scott Creighton

Of all the ancient sites you’ve visited, which one, in your opinion of course, was the most interesting?
Be it, taken aback or profoundly humbled.
Which one excited you the most?

a reply to: Phage

I wonder if it Paul Bunyan and his Ox that made the Grand Canyon?!

a reply to: cappie

It would be like Millers water planet on Interstellar lol.

a reply to: MrBuddy

I beat you to it two or three posts earlier. Sry.

originally posted by: Hooke

originally posted by: MrBuddy
Can I just be the first to say..."Who Cares?"

About Scott Creighton's work in general? I think others might have beaten you to it ....

originally posted by: MrBuddy
Really...in 2021, does it even MATTER what position the earth was in Millenia ago?

For all sorts of geological and scientific reasons: yes, it would matter if the earth had been in a significantly different position millennia ago.

However, this is unlikely.

originally posted by: MrBuddy

Does it matter who built the Pyramids, whether the Sphinx has water damage, whether Sumerian Kings lived to be 1k years old? NO.

All these questions matter, because we need a full appreciation of the past to be able to plan for the future.

originally posted by: MrBuddy

Some half retarded picture drawer decided to paint some pretty figures on a ceiling thousands of years ago, and did it backwards...SO WHAT!?

You think the people who painted this were " half retarded"?

Really?

An artist would have had to belong to the scribal class, and undergone a rigorous training.

originally posted by: MrBuddy
Maybe it was his first day on the job. Maybe he was incompetent. Maybe the Earth WAS upside down at some point in history.

It wasn't. He wasn't. It wasn't.

originally posted by: MrBuddy
So please tell me how this is going to solve any problem myself or the World has in 2021? Why are people wasting time and energy caring what a group of people drew thousands of years ago??

Because, as stated previously, we need a full appreciation of the past - human, geological, cosmological, etc. - in order to be able to plan for the future.

originally posted by: MrBuddy

They didn't even have the wheel

They had the wheel.

originally posted by: MrBuddy
but for sure knew all about the stars and Universe.

They had some knowledge: perhaps not as much as is sometimes claimed, but some.

originally posted by: MrBuddy
To continue travelling down these roads is an exercise in futility because they were just some people...that lived once...and when you actually do proper research...will find out they were actually pretty stupid overall.

Can you cite some evidence to support your assertion that " they were actually pretty stupid overall?"

Who here does not find it childish and annoying when people pause and lecture on each syllable of a post.
Can you imagine if someone did that in realtime whilst having a conversation?
That is some pretentious stuff.
You know, you could just make your comments to the contrary without trying to look like a professor.

Well, maybe you are on to something.

Did the Earth tip on its side 84 million years ago?

originally posted by: baburak
...

Did the Earth tip on its side 84 million years ago?

But that hypothetical event would have taken place in the Late Cretaceous.

There's no mention of a pole shift just 4,500 YA.

a reply to: Hooke

I know. But it still a scientific theory that something like this is possible if not already happened. That's huge from my perspective.

originally posted by: baburak
a reply to: Hooke

I know. But it still a scientific theory that something like this is possible if not already happened.

...

But the article discusses events in geological time spanning millions of years.

It doesn't mention anything happening as recently as 2500 BC.

a reply to: Hooke

When they will know what to look for, they can start looking at other possible times this event occured. You can't look for something if you don't know how it looks like

originally posted by: baburak
a reply to: Hooke

When they will know what to look for, they can start looking at other possible times this event occured. You can't look for something if you don't know how it looks like

First. Reassembling evidence in another manner has, to me, proved that the earth has been terraformed for at least the last 70 million years. Above I have shown how the "African humid period" could have happened. The magnetic record of reversal is recorded in the ocean bed stripes. In reality the oceans are no older that 70 million years, give or take. Therefore, this appears to be the start of the reversal. Could it be that this "Reversal" is the result of the planet physically reversing its rotation direction?

What would it look like?

originally posted by: baburak
a reply to: Hooke

When they will know what to look for, they can start looking at other possible times this event occured. You can't look for something if you don't know how it looks like

Hey Baburak,

You make an important point.

Virtually all of mainstream science has dismissed even the possibility of pole shift / Earth inversion events for a very long time. And if you do that, then you will not properly search for evidence in support of such shifts and any evidence that you do find that could support these radical Earth changes are then interpreted in a completely different and, imo, incorrect way.

Just like we see other spinning objects in the zero gravity environment of space being affected by the Dzhanibekov effect, it is my view that the Earth almost certainly is also susceptible to this effect. It's all about balance or, as the ancient Egyptians would call it, Ma'at. Science dismisses this, of course, telling us that because the Earth is a sphere then it has only one major axis of rotation i.e. it has no intermediate or unstable axis. Well, I'm not so sure about such a conclusion. The Earth may well look like a perfect sphere but it's far from it. Without its thin layer of water the Earth is actually an irregular-shaped geoid, like this:



An Earth like that above will almost certainly be affected by the Dzhanibekov effect. Indeed, this has already been modelled to determine if the Earth is susceptible to Dzhanibekov effect. This was the result:



You can see the full test here (youtube video cannot be embedded).

And what would happen if the Earth's oceans were much much lower (as they were around 12,000 years ago)? How might that impact on the Earth's centre of gravity? The Earth is dynamic and its surface and sub-surface features are in a constant state of flux, thereby its centre of gravity must also be in a constant state of flux. With more of the Earth's water locked up in massive ice sheets then the Earth's surface would be nearer to the geoid image above than the Earth we observe from space today.

Now consider the graph below showing global temperature (red), sea level (blue) and CO2 emissions (green):



Each of the peaks in temperature occurs after a period of roughly 100,000 years or so. Within each temperature peak there are between 10 to 13 smaller peaks that are on a gradual downward (cooler) trend until, suddenly, another spike (rise) in temperature. Mainstream science considers these temperature cycles to be the result of Milankovitch Cycles. This theory (and it is just a theory) has been hotly debated (even among scientists) for a long time. Just recently new research from New Zealand and the Falkland Islands has shown MT to be fatally flawed:

Milankovitch predicts that ice ages would occur at opposite times in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres. When one hemisphere was having cold summers, and heading towards an ice age, the other would be having warm summers, heading away from an ice age.

But Hall and Lowell’s new research from the Falkland Islands corroborates recent research in New Zealand by suggesting that the two hemispheres experienced the last major ice age, which peaked about 20,000 years ago, at nearly the same time.

IMO, each peak and trough in the graph (above) is caused by a pole shift / Earth inversion event - between 10 to 13 of them per 100,000 years (approx). The reason there are so many smaller peaks towards the Earth being overall cooler is because these were complete 180° inversions. The polar regions simply swapped north and south i.e. these areas of the Earth remained in polar regions but now on the opposite side of the planet. As a result the ice caps will grow (reflecting more solar radiation into space in a feedback loop) and the Earth becomes colder and colder.

Occasionally however, and for reasons as yet unknown, there is a pole shift / inversion event where the shift is not a full 180° shift but is somewhere around 146°. In this situation another area (and its antipodal position) will become the new poles and the former poles will become warmer and the ice sheets will melt and so the cycle repeats.

The ice cores, when analysed, will show ice having been in those polar regions for hundreds of thousands of years and all the temperature variations during that time. But the temp variations (peaks and troughs) won't be interpreted as 180° inversion events but (wrongly imo) as Milankovitch Cycles.

Best,

SC