Windows 11 October 05 Debut

I just watched an Windows 11 review on YouTube and it confirmed my idea that it's "Windows for those with money" version, as it works only on newer computers and appears to be made for large screens, which means I won't be working with a Windows 11 computer in the near future, the computer I am using at the moment is a refurbished 8 years old computer, and I have only a 17" monitor, although I'm thinking about buying a refurbished 22"monitor.

W11 needs a lot more time to mature. Enterprise users and professional creators won't touch it as most of their software doesn't even work properly on it as of today (Adobe CC being one). Under the hood there are some potentially nice features like direct memory and auto HDR, but at the cost of giving up so much more privacy and stability while they iron out the bugs.

It's a hard pass for me despite liking some of the Applesque visuals being introduced. TPM is also something you'll being hearing more about as time goes on and not in a good way.

a reply to: ArMaP

You'll like that larger screen a lot.....and with all the supply chain issues, having a backup isn't a bad idea.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
Any bugs or fixes done?
Since we went through second Tuesday yesterday?

I'm still going to wait a few months, but......

Should be fixes on the way for release version soon .

Will you know when it happens and could you please update here?😎😎

I will try .

I'll remind you

a reply to: ArMaP

as it works only on newer computers and appears to be made for large screens

Did anyone mention why ?
As the requirements are the same for Windows 10
Processor : 2 or more cores of a compatible 64-bit processor with at least 2.5 GHz speed
RAM : At least 8 GB
Storage: Minimum of 250 GB storage

This is what frightens people and turns them into haters :
System firmware : UEFI with Secure Boot capability (TPM)
TPM 2 came out in 2014 (7 years ago) and does absolutely nothing without disk encryption .

ETA , I have an old laptop , somewhere , that runs Win 10 nicely .
I will try to install Win 11 on it and report back .

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
Any bugs or fixes done?
Since we went through second Tuesday yesterday?

I'm still going to wait a few months, but......

Should be fixes on the way for release version soon .

Will you know when it happens and could you please update here?😎😎

I will try .

I'll remind you

So far , I haven't recognized any problems on my one system running Windows 11 release
Only on this system running dev .
They did take care of some of the screen flickering issue . Now it is up to Nvidia and AMD to do their part .

a reply to: Paschar0
Secure boot has been around since the late 90s at least.
Once upon a time , if something changed the boot code , the PC would halt at POST and give a large red banner letting you know .
Such as using fdisk /mbr to write a new boot code .

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: Gothmog

Does the new start menu show the running programs? If you have three Excel spreadsheets open, for example, can you see those three opened files on the start menu?

I have not noticed , but the taskbar still does .

originally posted by: Gothmog
Did anyone mention why ?
As the requirements are the same for Windows 10

Not really.

These are the requirements for Windows 10 (source):

Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster processor or SoC
RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) for 32-bit or 2 GB for 64-bit
Hard disk space: 16 GB for 32-bit OS or 20 GB for 64-bit OS
Graphics card: DirectX 9 or later with WDDM 1.0 driver
Display: 800 x 600

For Windows 11 (source):

Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with 2 or more cores on a compatible 64-bit processor or System on a Chip (SoC).
RAM: 4 gigabyte (GB).
Storage: 64 GB or larger storage device
System firmware: UEFI, Secure Boot capable.
TPM: Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0.
Graphics card: Compatible with DirectX 12 or later with WDDM 2.0 driver.
Display: High definition (720p) display that is greater than 9” diagonally, 8 bits per color channel.
Internet connection and Microsoft account: Windows 11 Home edition requires internet connectivity and a Microsoft account.

I highlighted the main differences.

My "new" computer has an Intel Core i7-3770 CPU that is not on the list of compatible processors, so I cannot install it. My old computer, with an Intel Core2 Duo E8400 CPU, that has been running Windows 10 since he was available without any problem, much less can get Windows 11.

a reply to: ArMaP

My "new" computer has an Intel Core i7-3770 CPU that is not on the list of compatible processors

Check the system board's manufacturer website . your board may have a TPM header.
The CPU does meet specs , although that CPU does not have fTPM (or whatever Intel's is)
So nice to turn on fTPM on the CPU , install Windows 11 , then tun it back off .

a reply to: Gothmog

Everything I find about my processor says that it doesn't support TPM 2, so nothing can be done about it.

The motherboard is a Dell Inc. 0X9M3X.

a reply to: ArMaP
TPM 2.0 is CPU independent for most of them .
If there is a header (connector) for a TPM module , you may be in business.
Research your board layout .

a reply to: Gothmog

Confirmed by the board manual, it only has TPM 1.2.

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: Gothmog

Confirmed by the board manual, it only has TPM 1.2.

Look here :
Microsoft Offers TPM Bypass

I am trying for you .

a reply to: Gothmog

Thanks to all the information posted on this thread and in this page I was able to install Windows 11 on a VMWare Workstation Player virtual machine.

Now I only need time to explorer it.

Some great new features coming for Windows 11 release version soon .
Can someone say "sleep" or "wake up" ?

a reply to: Gothmog

Voice commands?

Did they get the bugs out yet?
Or is it pure smooth sailing?
My "business warranty" ran out on my computer this week, and I am in no hurry to hurry along my getting Win11 LOL

a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

Spent yesterday dealing with a fun and wholly new bug ( at least to me ). I was sitting here watching YT when my monitor flickered and my entire taskbar/start menu ( whatever the official title for this new dock style thing is called ) just went away. Whole bottom of my window turned into a gray strip with no icons or links or clickable spots.

At first I didn't panic as it struck me as the kind of thing that could be fixed with a simple command in a terminal or PowerShell.

A few hours later, after a lot of attempts and tons of Googling - I realized it was worse than I thought.

Wound up doing my third clean/full reinstall of Windows 11 so far.

It's anecdotal and subjective and maybe my experience is not the norm but so far this is the buggiest version of Windows I've dealt with in many generations. ME or Vista maybe.

a reply to: Hefficide

Well.
That just put me off of installing for the foreseeable future.
I in NO way am capable of debugging this baby....way above my pay grade.
No clue what PowerShell even is LOLOL.


Much thanks