Questions to those who would see the unvaxxed punished

This is a power grab using the pandemic and useful idiots for cover. There's no respect for those that value freedom over all other things despite that being what our country was founded on. The hive mind of the left just doesn't work that way.

Despite Biden and the the rest stating on camera just a few months ago how "We don't have the power to mandate", here we are doing just that. "The science" clearly showed natural immunity is superior, but you're mandated to have the vaccine with no good answers or discussion. This makes no logical sense medically and I'm sure they'll just create new studies that support what they want to align with their talking points. This shows it was always about power.

The Orwellian reality we now live in is just mind numbing but makes sense when I look at it from this angle.

Propaganda in america must be rough. I am a vaccinated left-leaning person and neither I nor anybody I know thinks anti-vaxers should be punished. I don't know why you people are so obsessed about Fauci - maybe try turning off CNN for a while?

a reply to: joejack1949

No propaganda, tens of thousands of healthcare workers are being fired or being threatened as I type this.

a reply to: Grenade

LOVE the Highlander reference

Geez, another thing to fear…what else is new on ATS

All of you please report to your local authorities and submit to being placed in the DNA database, that way when you transmit covid after you have been vaxed, you shall be held accountable. Also please provide an iris scan for the future, as them actually drawing blood would be costly, but you can if you wish. Also provide a list of all medications you are on, with a detailed driver's abstract and criminal record check. Any outstanding fines will be collected at points of sale(with a surtax of course). Exemptions will be allowed on strictly nepotistic criteria alone.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

Link to that bill? Plaster it everywhere it needs to be stopped.

I know produce farmers taxes have gone sky high almost double to triple previous years.. they are trying to recoop vaccine costs through the food supply chain. After all a lot of states don't charge tax on food..

Someone has to pay for it.. might as well be the even more essential food supply chain.. as it has the most cash flow.

It's only going to get worse when Kamala takes over.. which they are expecting in 3ish weeks or so rumor has it.

a reply to: Grenade
If rather sword fight with Ron Jeremies
Than let them put that muck in me

originally posted by: BlackArrow
a reply to: SeaWorthy

Link to that bill? Plaster it everywhere it needs to be stopped.

I know produce farmers taxes have gone sky high almost double to triple previous years.. they are trying to recoop vaccine costs through the food supply chain. After all a lot of states don't charge tax on food..

Someone has to pay for it.. might as well be the even more essential food supply chain.. as it has the most cash flow.

It's only going to get worse when Kamala takes over.. which they are expecting in 3ish weeks or so rumor has it.

First link up in search
Democrats Slip Plans for $700,000 Vaccine Compliance Fines Under U.S. Code Section 666 Into Budget Bill

Read more: The Gilmer Mirror - Democrats Slip Plans for $700 000 Vaccine Compliance Fines Under U S Code Section 666 Into Budget Bill
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Actually I am pretty sure they want just to crush the nations economy and crush the people so they will become dependent on the .Gov

a reply to: DBCowboy

Nice rant!!

Yea I have had people tell me I shouldn't be allowed to have medical care if I refuse the vaccine. Some also feel we should be separated from the vaxxed because WE are the problem with the increase in cases.

It is really disturbing how easily people fall for this....they have been faked scared into submission. Greatest hoax of all time going on right now.

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

Your getting it and because you have now your playing word games and cherry picking to defend hypocrisy

first the covid mandates were THE WHOLE PACKAGE

From masks, distancing and VACCINES..
i see you clearly left out that they were begging and demanding WHEN vaccines were available to get them.
then when they were went from asking, begging, then demanding they be taken..
all for same reasons, begging and demanding that were used all though the "pandemic"
along with massive support (guess you missed that?) when the required no option for everyone to get vaccinated .. be the early discussions to now it being implemented.

but now THEY ARE REQUIRED to get it just like EVERYONE ELSE.... there is a problem

that is HYPOCRICY... pure and simple


i am calling it out....

so lets turn the arguments around to them now

they should do it
to flatten the curve
save lives
save grandma
help prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed
to reduce stress on the hospital workers

scrounger

ps again you get it.. just to deflect have to do mental gymnastics and mental contortions that would be olympic medal worthy

Yeah, if you tell me "I get it" then all I have to add is I disagree. Your call seems like something just out of spite and also putting everyone in the same basket. Your argument is childish. It's like a call to double down to not make them look, by your definition, hypocrites.

So in your mind they, the people working in the medical field, should now be forced to vaccinate, because they asked for masks, lockdowns and distancing before?

That is your logic?
lol.

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
Yeah, if you tell me "I get it" then all I have to add is I disagree. Your call seems like something just out of spite and also putting everyone in the same basket. Your argument is childish. It's like a call to double down to not make them look, by your definition, hypocrites.

So in your mind they, the people working in the medical field, should now be forced to vaccinate, because they asked for masks, lockdowns and distancing before?

That is your logic?
lol.

no they asked for masks, lockdowns, distancing AND VACCINES.

guess you missed that last part..

so to answer you logic... YES they be forced to follow ALL THE MANDATES that the rest of us have to.

so what your saying is everyone MUST be vaccinated, but the "medical professionals" get to choose.

right?

so by what logic to they get to choose and also keep/get fired over it..

what is the difference between them and say airline workers that grant them that special ability to choose and keep their jobs..

ill wait

scrounger

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
a reply to: DBCowboy
Just like the 6,500 tax per cow and pig tax will stop all production,

Please tell me you're joking about that...

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
a reply to: DBCowboy
Just like the 6,500 tax per cow and pig tax will stop all production,

Please tell me you're joking about that...

It was on the news and everywhere but not is seems it is claimed untrue.

Aug 10 2021
WASHINGTON – As Senate Democrats try to ram through their partisan, more than $3,500,000,000,000 “Bernie, Biden reckless tax-and-spend spree,” U.S. Senator Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) successfully added her amendment—with bipartisan support—to block Democrats from imposing a costly new “Cow Tax” on Iowa farmers and ranchers. Ernst took to the Senate floor to bar any new permits or federal methane requirements on livestock that could increase the cost of beef or other critical products.

www.ernst.senate.gov...

Does the 2021 infrastructure bill include a $6,500 tax on dairy cows, $2,600 per head tax on beef cows and $500 per head tax on swine? No, that's not true: There is no such language in the infrastructure legislation,

leadstories.com...

I think they removed that part of the bill!

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
a reply to: DBCowboy
Just like the 6,500 tax per cow and pig tax will stop all production,

Please tell me you're joking about that...

Seems it started here

Yet, on Sept. 22, 2021, Rep. Markwayne Mullin (R-OK) posted an opinion piece on his website criticizing the spending bill and claiming the language includes a methane emissions fee for agriculture. This article was widely distributed through social (and other) media, gaining significant attention for Mullin in the process. Here is an excerpt:

By now, you have probably heard about President Biden’s $3.5 trillion “Build Back Better” bill and all the empty promises in it. The truth is that it will do nothing to build our country up. Instead, this is a blank check to take our country into socialism…In an attempt to eliminate fossil fuels, this legislation would impose a “fee” on all methane emissions, including in our agriculture industry. We all know that a fee is just a tax and that consumers are the ones who will pay for it. The tax is estimated to cost $6,500 per dairy cow, $2,600 per head of cattle, and $500 per swine each year. That is more than what the animals are worth, it’ll run ranchers out of business.

ocj.com...

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
in reply to: tanstaafl
Please tell me you're joking about that..."

It was on the news and everywhere but not is seems it is claimed untrue.

I'm not sure if I'm more relived that it wasn't true, or unsurprised to find out it was in there at some point...

2022 mid-terms can't come soon enough, I just hope they are able to get through enough election reform in the worst states to prevent a repeat of the 2020 fake election.