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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Kreeate
Same fellow who loves us unconditionally but will burn our immortal souls for all eternity should we challenge, question, or disagree, with his laws or commandments.
Now that's what i call tuff love.
Same fellow who loves us unconditionally but will burn our immortal souls for all eternity should we challenge, question, or disagree, with his laws or commandments.
originally posted by: Randyvine2
Read about any death. Frank Herbert's Dune is the most amazing book on the planet.
The best seller of all time. And I'm too small minded to realize it. I simply
have no idea.
originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: andy06shake
Curious if you might do me one favor. Just bar that one untrue
comment. For the simple reason that nowhere in the Bible does it say sinners, people human beings, burn in hell forever? Take my
word for it, research it yourself either one's fine. It just makes
me wanna shake you every time I read it.
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Raggedyman
Accept recorded history paints a rather different picture.
For a start Woman get rather a raw deal from Christianity, never mind the inquisition and what happens to anyone else that don't share the same belief system aka the crusades for one.
How about the way the Spanish treated the indigenous population of America when they arrived and for quite some time after, and all in the name of god.
The message is a lot more complex than go forth and love if you ask me.
originally posted by: GoShredAK
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Raggedyman
Accept recorded history paints a rather different picture.
For a start Woman get rather a raw deal from Christianity, never mind the inquisition and what happens to anyone else that don't share the same belief system aka the crusades for one.
How about the way the Spanish treated the indigenous population of America when they arrived and for quite some time after, and all in the name of god.
The message is a lot more complex than go forth and love if you ask me.
Those things were done by man using God to achieve their own ends.....
Jesus kept it simple......Love God and Love your neighbor....
Excuse me for jumping in once again, but... nothing "the bible says" is valid or has any meaning for any sane, non-brainwashed, critical thinking human being. Your book is just that... a book. It has no more value, merit or authority than my copy of Aesop's Fables.
Is it okay if I just tolerate my neighbor? He's constantly being a pompous **s so it's kind of hard to just "love" him.
But all jokes aside, I love my neighbor (fellow human beings) to the extent that they love me. Common sense.
I treat people as I would like to be treated. Please tell that to god. I don't think he got the message. All the murdering of children and innocent people he does... Must keep him busy I guess.
originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: Kreeate
This is always the opinion of people who speak from a lack of knowledge.
Just a book you say? Good luck with that partner.
God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses (Joshua 6). In Judges 21 He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife!
Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.
The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 & Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person.
originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: Kreeate
...and not one isn't
taken out of context.
You may want to brush up on your linguistic skills there mate. That double negative actually states the opposite of what you apparently meant. Christian logic 101 for the win.
But stick to your 2000 year old fairy tales if it brings you joy and meaning. We shall all find out in the end, won't we?
originally posted by: Randyvine2
I said exactly what I meant no brush needed
I'm not preaching to you. I'm replying same as you.
No some of us know now because we we're compelled to find out.
originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: Kreeate
No I meant all are taken out of context .
I did use an apostrophe in err for the word we're should've been were.
Sorry about that.