5 European posters for Hitler

Today, propaganda is trying to equate Hitler and Stalin, and present Russia in World War II as an aggressor. But in Russia, which lost 28 million people in this war, there is a completely different opinion. It lies in the fact that the 3rd Reich was in reality the first European Union. And all the human, industrial, military and state resources of the Europe united by Hitler worked on the Eastern Front.
I would like to present to you, dear members of the forum, several European posters of that time, confirming the Russian point of view.



A very revealing French poster from 1940. Above - an eerie caricature of a Jew and the inscription: "Jewish conspiracy." The Jew, like the Lord God, is watching what is happening in Europe. Stalin and Churchill united against the Europeans. However, the unity of Europe is stronger than ever, which is symbolized by the rivets along the entire perimeter of the "EU" of the 40s.

As you can see, it was absolutely natural for the French artist to unite France with the Third Reich and fascist Italy - he saw nothing reprehensible in this.



And here is a large, very detailed and well-executed poster from the Netherlands. It is called: "The destruction of Soviet barbarism will ensure freedom and peace for Europe."

The poster tells how bad the Soviets are, how they, together with the Jews, are preparing to take over peaceful Holland. The Bolsheviks are opposed by new crusaders - Hitler's soldiers. The Germans have the best technique, they are disciplined, learned and civilized. They have values.



The descendants of Hans Christian Andersen were also on a par with Hitler's crusaders. This Danish poster "Front against Bolshevism" asked the question: "Who are you standing with today?" The answer was obvious to many Danes.

The Russians are symbolically depicted as a brutal Bolshevik swinging a bloody hammer and sickle over Europe. But, of course, the new crusaders will stop the presumptuous barbarian. European values ​​must prevail.



On March 25, 1941, Yugoslavia joined the Berlin Pact. Alas, according to historical sources, the Serbian people received this event with jubilation. The Serbs very much hoped that the reorientation towards Germany would lead to an increase in their material well-being.

These hopes were not destined to come true. Already on April 6, 1941, Germany treacherously attacked Yugoslavia, defeated and divided it into parts. Serbia became one of the key suppliers of corn and wheat for the Third Reich, a donor to the German economy.



And here is a Finnish poster from 1941, which basically explains why there was a Northern War. The Soviet government was well aware that Finland, in the event of an attack by the Third Reich, would be on the side of Hitler. And, having no territorial "layer" with this northern state, the USSR almost instantly lost Leningrad.

Finland, despite its reputation as a kind of "angel" of Europe, innocently affected by the evil communists, was quite a mature pro-fascist state. At the same time, the statehood of Finland was established in the early 19th century by Russia and was completely donated by the USSR at the beginning of the 20th century. Before that, the Finns did not have their own statehood.

These and other posters show that the Second World War was in many ways a war of the United Europe against the USSR, against Russia. And the participants in this war were not only the "axis" countries. One way or another, the entire continental Europe took part in the "crusade".

Perhaps that is why the modern European Union prefers to celebrate not the Victory Day, but the Day of Remembrance and Sorrow? And what is the difference between European propaganda against Russia and Hitler's one now?

Thanks.

Posters newspapers and radio,the propaganda machinery of the times described...
Is it possible that it was nwo at work?
Is it possible that it's falling apart just now,or are we just to blind to recognize it was always around.
Is there a greater conspiracy like breakaway civilization dictating events for eternity.
That kind of questions that comes to my mind...
S&F

a reply to: RussianTroll

The only reason that most of the world isn't speaking German is that the 28 million lives of the Russians paid for our freedom. This is a massive loss from which the population must still be recovering from The fact that they survived Hitler and Stalin shows the general strength of character of who should be our friends and allies. Any serious student of history realizes that if it wasn't for the second front Hitler opened into Russia, the War would have had a different outcome.
Having said that, are the Russians aware of what's going on in the West, are they seeing business as normal, or does it look like a fascist takeover, asking as a concerned citizen, for an observer's point of view?

a reply to: RussianTroll

I have yet to go through your impressive thread but wanted to point out the last poster in your OP in Dutch not Finnish.

I'm going to read it now, thank you for a quality thread.

a reply to: RussianTroll

interesting posters.

Alas, as usual you seem to conveniently forget the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact which was a non-Aggression Treaty between Hitler's Germany and Stalin's USSR.

During this time the UK stood alone - although with help from our Commonwealth brothers - against Nazi Germany and Europe.
No amount of spin can gloss over that FACT.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
Today, propaganda is trying to equate Hitler and Stalin, and present Russia in World War II as an aggressor.

Whose propaganda are you arguing against? As far as I know, western Europe has never stopped blamng Hitler. As in the Fawlty Towers episode- "You started it, you invaded Polamd".

Mind you, I could understand any Polish sentiment to the effect that Hitler and Stalin were joint aggressors in 1939. You'll have to fight this out with the Polish members of ATS.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: RussianTroll

interesting posters.

Alas, as usual you seem to conveniently forget the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact which was a non-Aggression Treaty between Hitler's Germany and Stalin's USSR.

During this time the UK stood alone - although with help from our Commonwealth brothers - against Nazi Germany and Europe.
No amount of spin can gloss over that FACT.

The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was the last of the treaties that Hitler concluded with the European powers. Stalin was forced to sign it after European leaders refused to sign such agreements with Russia.
Let me remind you of the Munich Agreement, after which Germany and Poland were able to occupy Czechoslovakia and make the Anschluss of Autria

originally posted by: DISRAELI

originally posted by: RussianTroll
Today, propaganda is trying to equate Hitler and Stalin, and present Russia in World War II as an aggressor.

Whose propaganda are you arguing against? As far as I know, western Europe has never stopped blamng Hitler. As in the Fawlty Towers episode- "You started it, you invaded Polamd".

Mind you, I could understand any Polish sentiment to the effect that Hitler and Stalin were joint aggressors in 1939. You'll have to fight this out with the Polish members of ATS.

Why should I fight the Poles? Poland has gone through 3 sections in its history. In 1939, Russia occupied its historical lands according to the "Curzon Line" drawn by Great Britain and its Prime Minister.

a reply to: Freeborn

Somewhere in Mein Kampf didn't Hiter made it clear that Russia would be a port of call. Stalin knew this and If Hitler attacked Russia first, he might have won. As the West would have rubbed their hands in glee. The Non-agression pact bought the Russians time to get some war production going. Stalin's mistake was that he thought he could trust it for a lot longer, and Hitler's mistake was the Russian winters. You can imagine Stalin having a drink when Hitler took Europe and thought the Capitalists would wipe each other out. and thinking there was plenty of time then whoops!

a reply to: RussianTroll

Behavior of Red troops in the expansive phase after the Reds gained power gave the propagandists plenty of material to use against the Soviets.

As you are well aware, propaganda is effective, because, like stereotypes, it has a kernel of truth.

German 2d World War propaganda (of which, btw, all your examples are; simply being produced in an occupied country is no indicator of how the bulk of the occupied peoples perceived the events of those times) was easily able to exploit the 1920s reputation of the Red troops.

Ideology, you see, is a double-edged sword. Stalin and his compatriots used it to 'fire up' the passions of the Red Army men early on, but the ensuing reputation they gained was a gift to enemies of the Soviet Union.

Discussions regarding history are interesting, but they cannot be on the basis of arbitrarily defined periods of time. What went on before those periods of time is critical foreshadowing.

Cheers

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: RussianTroll

The only reason that most of the world isn't speaking German is that the 28 million lives of the Russians paid for our freedom. This is a massive loss from which the population must still be recovering from The fact that they survived Hitler and Stalin shows the general strength of character of who should be our friends and allies. Any serious student of history realizes that if it wasn't for the second front Hitler opened into Russia, the War would have had a different outcome.
Having said that, are the Russians aware of what's going on in the West, are they seeing business as normal, or does it look like a fascist takeover, asking as a concerned citizen, for an observer's point of view?

My friend in Volgograd, Russia says, Biden's goal is to have the States TURN AGAINST EACH OTHER.

So do you think my friend is Russia is correct in saying that statement.

Guys, please, do not engage with this "Russian troll". He is what his nickname says it is. That's a real Prigozhin's troll factory operative, when they don't troll the internet with pro Putin garbage, they try to engage you into their Putin's PR management nonsense. Remember, Russia and Putin are not your friends!

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2
Finland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Italy, Spain were not occupied by Germany. But their troops fought on the Eastern Front officially as part of the Wehrmacht.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Ive been to Russia twice, Saint Petersburg.

A month in the summer and then a month in the winter. The people there are the warmest i have met anywhere in the World. A babushka made me dinner every night and even though i couldnt speak Russian and she couldnt speak English, we used to laugh and giggle and each other's hand signs trying to communicate. My ex-girlfriend was Russian it was her babushka we were staying with.

Saint Petersburg is the most beautiful city i have ever been to, the Hermitage museum is phenomenal. The church of the saviour on spilled blood is like no other church i have ever seen. The palaces are beautiful. Google it.
I would and i do, recommend to anyone that listens, to go there. If you want to go somewhere different for a holiday go to Saint Petersburg you will not be disappointed. I was lucky in that my ex spoke Russian so it was easy to move around. You can hire a guide who will do all the talking for you.

I have nothing but the fondest, warmest and happiest memories of my times there

a reply to: Necro Pyro

Remember, Russia and Putin are not your friends!

You speak for yourself there pal, they are most definitely my friends.

a reply to: SecretKnowledge

Thank you, St. Petersburg is really a very beautiful city. For several years now, it has been ranked first in the world in terms of tourist attraction.

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originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: F2d5thCavv2
Finland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Italy, Spain were not occupied by Germany. But their troops fought on the Eastern Front officially as part of the Wehrmacht.

I agree with the exception of Bulgaria. Their troops did not fight the Soviets; they even welcomed them with bread and salt when Soviet troops entered Bulgaria in 1944. Bulgarian support of the Germans was mainly limited to occupation of parts of Greece, and, I think, Yugoslavia.

But the posters your OP mentioned were French, Dutch, Serbian, and Norwegian -- all countries occupied by the Germans and who could be made to produce propaganda for the Germans. Now, too many of the occupied countries had sizeable contingents of young boneheads who joined national legions and fought against the Soviets, although, Serbia was not of them. Serb collaborators operated within the borders of the former Yugoslavia.

Cheers

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: SecretKnowledge

Thank you, St. Petersburg is really a very beautiful city. For several years now, it has been ranked first in the world in terms of tourist attraction.

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As it should be. It totally deserves the title. It is without doubt the most beautiful city in all of Europe, if not the World. Yes i feel that strongly about Saint Petersburg. It is stunning.

a reply to: RussianTroll

How many Russian civilians were murdered by the Russian government between, say 1917 and 1922?

There’s no wonder there was anti Russian sentiment leading up to WW2.