Soldiers Have 3 Months to Get COVID Vaccine or Face Discharge, with Few Waiver Options

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Vasa Croe

The scary thing is what my wife was told, if you get anything other than the FDA approved vaccine the military is not at fault if you have a bad reaction.

Even more scary is the FDA approved one isn't available....

Tell her to refuse until a labeled Comirnaty vaccine it what she gets.

originally posted by: musicismagic

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad

originally posted by: carewemust
If it's an honorable discharge, good for them.

Their trajectory in life will be onward and upward, from this point forward.

Nobody cares about discharges unless it’s a dishonorable discharge. There are tons of people with general, other than honorable, and medical discharges that do great in life.

I was thinking of those who go to work for contractors. But then again, those poor guys have got to get an injection with the experimental vaccine now too, don't they?

But you are right regarding most employers. They just want to ensure the veteran was not dishonorably discharged.

And maybe not many of them since there is such a employee shortage these days.

In today's military with all the high tech training now that is required, it would be mind bloggingly that they would force a discharge on the soldier, but who knows. I've said since the beginning Biden was going to break the moral of the top brass and then work on the ground soldier, so far I've been spot on.

You are 100% spot-on again. The Biden administration has people read AboveTopSecret.com. They have responded to this particular thread by telling Joe Biden to say,

"Military people should get a DISHONORABLE Discharge, if they refuse the Covid-19 vaccine."

Commander-in-Chief Biden hates the military: www.msn.com...

Worst C.I.C. Ever.

a reply to: Vasa Croe
I don’t know where you get your info but where I work Pfizer is readily available for months now. It’s the only shot being given to members that are getting vaccinated by this policy.

originally posted by: Bunch
a reply to: Vasa Croe
I don’t know where you get your info but where I work Pfizer is readily available for months now. It’s the only shot being given to members that are getting vaccinated by this policy.

Read the details, “comirnaty” is the only FDA approved vax, made by Pfizer, however it’s a bait switch tactic they are using with the emergency use non-approved Pfizer vax that everyone is getting. Comirnaty isn’t available to anyone even though it’s the only one approved. From what I understand is once they start use of the approved vaccines the emergency use vaccines must be halted.

a reply to: 38181

Ok. Let me put it this way. The DoD is only allowed to give members whatever LEGAL FDA authorized vaccine has been approved.

I could go into more details about how is so but can’t without disclosing some grey area OPSEC info,

a reply to: Middleoftheroad
Services no longer required I got because of a dispute

I won

These men and women served honorably in some real hell holes, often coming home injured. Now Biden wants to give them a dishonorable discharge? All Americans should Riot on their behalf. The Democrats are truly without morals!

originally posted by: TrollMagnet
Its EXTREMELY hard not to think the Democrats and tech companies colluded with the Chinese to do all this from the start.

It is hard not to think that the CHICOM influence is so great in the Biden administration and the Pentagon that injecting our troops with toxic drugs is not an act of war.

POTUS and SecDef should be tried for treason and executed, but the system is so utterly rotten that it will not happen.

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

It surely is a mixed bag. I learnt a lot about survival in Scouts (Eagle) and the Army too but it also makes you a bit 'cynical' .
I keep thinking of buying a generator but haven't. Especially since gas doesn't store that well and there's always candles and lighters and propane which i have enough of lol.

a reply to: chris_stibrany

I drop this info here since I dont normally share it, even though this isnt the best thread.

Gas stores fine. Add some Stabil fuel preservative to your fuel, and keep it off the floor or ground. Fuel on the floor or ground goes bad, fuel off the floor that can change temps with the air does not. If it is on the ground it will draw moisture into the fuel, and it does not matter what you store it in or how tight the cap is. Fuel will suck in moisture if stored wrong like a damn magic trick.

You need to fuel to keep your freezer running, which is something everyone paying attention should have.

Also, pro tip, hunting wont feed a family if the crap does ever hit the fan. If you want to be prepared, you need to learn how to trap. You cannot be a survivalist or prepper if you do not own at least a dozen steel traps and the things required to set and use them. I can sit in a tree for a week and not get a clear shot on big game. If you know how to trap though, I can have a dozen traps working 24/7 while I do things besides sit in a tree. If you have livestock you make yourself a target. Cows, Chickens, Goats, all targets. And if you think trapping is some simple thing you are going to learn in a pinch from a book or TV, you are wrong. Takes a lot of trial and error.

a reply to: TrollMagnet

very cool thank you

originally posted by: Bunch
a reply to: 38181

Ok. Let me put it this way. The DoD is only allowed to give members whatever LEGAL FDA authorized vaccine has been approved.

I could go into more details about how is so but can’t without disclosing some grey area OPSEC info,

The approved one isn't available yet. The EUA one is.

If the label doesn't say Comirnaty then it is not approved. It is really that simple.

Nobody has gotten the approved vaccine....nobody.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

I don’t know how to reply to someone who don’t want to believe facts.

Do you think this orders are giving on a whim? These orders have to be vetted by all kinds of civilian and military lawyers that the DoD employs. If what you are saying is true then all a service member would need to do in court and the mandatory vaccination program would be rules unlawful.

This isn’t the first time this has happened. It happened with the Anthrax vaccine… service members sued and WON… the program had to be stopped for 2 years until the vaccine obtained FDA approval.

a reply to: Bunch

I dont care if you want to listen or not. I'm not in the forces and not under any mandate.

I simply read the laws. If you want it broken down for you then feel free to read my thread on it.

The current vaccine that is available is NOT the approved vaccine. And EUA is only valid if there is no approved treatment available. That is why Moderna and J&J are still available.

Once the approved one, Comirnaty, is available the EUA, by law, must be halted.

It is all there in black and white under the law.

It isn't hard to understand, but it is impossible to understand if you don't actually read it.

Just a silly idea, and a long shot.

But what if all the US military personnel (and perhaps some other occupations) who don't want to get vaxxed go and live in a South or Central American country for a while and give up their US citizenship?

After a few months they all gather at the southern border and re-enter their country as "migrants" who don't need any jabs.

Back in through the out-door.
Would it be possible, and make them employable once back home?

Next summer - ooh who are these 50 000 shirtless hunks at the southern border?
Oh, that's just our former soldiers and ICE officers coming home ... I mean cough, cough ... er, who knows (wink, wink), some unfortunate doo-doo hole migrants including loads of albinos.
But they don't need to be vaxxed.
Bus 'em in!

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: Bunch
I'm not in the forces and not under any mandate.

You willfully admit you are talking about something that you don’t know anything about. I’m giving you information having first hand knowledge about what’s happening.

originally posted by: Bunch

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: Bunch
I'm not in the forces and not under any mandate.

You willfully admit you are talking about something that you don’t know anything about. I’m giving you information having first hand knowledge about what’s happening.

Oh....you think I am making it up and don't know others in the military?

Like I said....read my thread on it.

Another person that works for government even posted the communication they got about getting the vaccine.

I don’t know who you are or anything about you. I do know what I said is true. It appears you don't want to read it.

Like I said....not my issue.

a reply to: musicismagic

According to plan Biden is destroying the military. Just like the prime moron, Trudeau in Canada. They feminize and corrupt the officers and generals making them political tools and then destroy the troops with the jab. Biden and Trudeau have the same master because they are doing exactly the same things.

Cheers - Dave

Threads like this are comical to be. I really don't mean to be insensitive or obtuse.. but the push back and hysteria from the anti vax crowd here is insane.

Anyone here served in the Army in the last 20 years?

For those that have... You know.. this is NOTHING NEW

When I was in processing at Ft. Benning they literally line everyone up and you walk through a human assembly line of needles. You're jabbed like 8 different.times and your not told what you're being jabbed with, and you cant ask either.

It's the military. You sign a paper stating your body is property of the USA. That's the gig.

Btw.. In the Army I experienced.. refusal to get a mandated vaccine would result in an article 15, continued refusal would be a court marshall and a dishonorable discharge. It's refusing a direct order, and if you bail, you're AWOL.

As of today nearly 75% of the entire military is vaccinated... That number is dragged down mostly by the Marines who have a much lower vaccination rate (figures).

All of you were REQUIRED to get vaccinations to go to school. It's been that way forever.

Why and how is this any different? It's just adding another to the list.

a reply to: MiddleInsite

The others may be real vaccines,the covid is not.In my
opinion,it's a bio-weapon,not a vaccine.You can post
whatever pieces of "proof" you can find on the net,I don't
buy it.