The Greatest Minority (and most hated by all)

"A true player can never payer hate, or else they're hopelessly just a player hater as long as they do". -me

The whole world is coming for us. Unless we truly hide. Act, that is. Act like we're not exceptional. Never, and I mean never ever reveal our "gifts".

The one "reprieve" get is, such so called "gifts" too often for us that this would all jive with is, the reality of it all in practice,the more "gifts" you have the more insufferable your existence tends to play out as. Even if, you're able to channel your "gifts" away from being curses, that is you actually live up to the so called "hype" of just being yourself, you can even be a brilliant inventor that your inventions you cant wait to literally give them away to the people around you....

That is unless you happen to be of the type that gets to invent a get rich quick scheme of a Dot Com, sort of thing. Then at least the masses will adore you, by then the rest can ignored. You'll be too busy being showboated on corporate news to even notice. By then you can exploit, destroy even -even most of the- people that try to work for you, to help you earn that next billion. Shieeet, you dont even have to give them free Amazon Prime, that doesnt cost you anything at all to give away... your employees handling literally anything from over one MILLION items in the building if they happen to process their own order,they still pay shipping on it.

But hey you started it, you've never even visited one of your own facilities as such, but you're yet still a HERO (no matter how ruthlessly anti-staff anti-human your machines proves itself to be every single day since its inception)!

So fine, call me out now for being a "hater".

That's just me being ethical to a fault. Which to a non-ethical populace I just come off as a ****.

Pompus even.

You spend decades of your life, thereby inherently dedicating it to just being alone. You can never actually say that to anyone, even IF you state it as look I chomped down did the research, the goal was for everyone else doing family life etc they dont have to commit their whole (which is basically what it takes to) be able to have a good shake at grasping the reality off how f'd this world actually is, of how ghoulish every projection of the future currently demands to play out....

Yeah thats not good time discussions...

But that'snot the point here...

The better you can explain it, present it, sacrifice in such doings, I mean with exceptionalism, that's the deal breaker.

Because the inherent story behind it is, it's not even about if you're actually "smarter" than them... it becomes that you figured it out first.

And here comes EGO.

So far I've kept this in terms many ATS people have likely experienced.

But here's the more typical reality us "gifted" people face.

You CANNOT talk about it.

You'll get fired.

You gotta act just like them. Their limits you cant go beyond it. And definitely dont ask to many questions, even if the point is is sorting out just how half or three quarters or one eight ass they trying to run the new job we're on.

Even IF literally every notion of deception (outside of jokes OFFENDS you), you gotta front". The longer you work with them, the more directly, you have to maintain the act. And that's just general construction environments. Easily replaceable by etc.

Flip sides are, you get entrenched in a high tech mom and pop, you present a book of a proposal of how to expand the business and cut costs dramatically, and dude realizes you're on a nother level, from that day on he works fights rips you off even to ensure you never make enough to buy your own machine that can get you started as a new competitor. Despite huge loyalty impressions. Even IF you work 16+ hours a day for this chump on holiday booms (piece work no overtime pay even)..... I could go on for pages here. It ends with twice you catch his wife ripping you off for weeks on end skimming your paychecks.

But its far worse than all that noise.

So here we go, there are many metrics of how a person can be "gifted" (talented whatever). Some people, you know, its playing say basketball, that was their gift they just has to practice it. And get fans and money and chicks. GOOD FOR THEM. They actually practiced.

There's just so many "gifts" a person might get "lucky" on. Perhaps half of them have to do specifically with cogniti9ve abilities, and run down attributes like work ethics that come with them.

I mean quite frankly, just being driven like few people will ever encounter, already you're on the Player Hater List of EAT SNIP.

Shall I go on? F NO. Already at this point I'm to 'everyone' (especially Narcissists) as being a raging Narcissist.

For just expressing myself.

Subjects I've thought a lot about, sorts of people I've delt with too much... and what I've worked out is, you've got people just insane with delusional ego, and then you've got people that live up to it. Are they Narcissists... MAYBE.....

Not to bust your bubble, but everyone on the planet is gifted. Some more than
others due to active use vs lack of knowledge. The only factor that separates
dormant/inactivated gifts from those activated is willingness, motivation
and a mindset to actively develop their gifts.

Most gifts are generational, and yet many siblings fail to activate
what's in their DNA. Some peoples gifts are like a butterfly
trapped in a bottle, all of which can be developed with
proper knowledge and instruction.

The nonbiological spiritual nature of our being comes
with gifts.

a reply to: BrightlyDark

Maybe I’m not “gifted” maybe I am, who knows, who cares.

What I have learned in my old age…

The smartest people don’t ever need to tell people they are smart or gifted, everyone will know.

Often the smartest people lack common sense, I mean really really lack it to a humorous point.

If you are smart and have common sense you can be crazy successful. If you are able to speak well and are friendly you are almost guaranteed success.

The truly crazy gifted people…..very very rare, they live in their own world and I’m afraid it is often very sad.

a reply to: BrightlyDark

Believing you are exceptional is never a good idea, also bitterness will eat you up. The world is tough and most of us have a hard time of it, you are no exception in that regard. The way to deal with a toxic work environment is to move on and find something else.
Your OP sounds petty and childish, perhaps you too have qualities that leave much to be desired. There are those bright enough to improve a business and work place but that says nothing about their overall attitude and disposition.

Find something better regards work and circumstance if you can and work on your humility.

S+F for the rant!

a reply to: midicon

A player hater can never player hate.

I'd never dis you for expressing yourself.

Know thyself!

a reply to: BrightlyDark

I didn't 'dis' you, just replied to your OP in a straightforward manner. Life and people can be unkind, I wish you well.

a reply to: midicon

Actually you did. Assuming, expecting, I dont live and suffer by what everyone else assumes to be "gifts". I suffer many. The tragedy is that I'll forever be alone because of them, I'll always just come off as some Narcissist for them, the more I reveal the more I'll be hated for by most people I'll ever meet, the more alone I'll ever be.... unless i LIE i ACT... where the greatest sums of these de facto curses I endure is, I loathe deception, where Truth is always more powerful....

I havent even gotten dscript here... The very notion of what I'm insinuating already has you hating on me. Im not even offended by it. I dont dislike you for it. The human animal cant even help it. This is my reality. I can prove the point. I so can... But the more i do ill never be listened to again.

This is just the human condition. Where SJW's are together at least 10% population,I'm less than half, and these chumps scream like bansheees (to not be majority of society).

I only ever just wanted to express myself at some basic level.

TOTAL NARCISSIST!

a reply to: BrightlyDark

I too value truth and my reply was honest, no hate thought or intended. If I made any assumptions they were based on the OP nothing more. I could say more given your replies but I won't.

Regards midicon

a reply to: BrightlyDark

Thank you. I'm Glad I'm not the only one.

originally posted by: midicon
a reply to: BrightlyDark

Believing you are exceptional is never a good idea, also bitterness will eat you up. The world is tough and most of us have a hard time of it, you are no exception in that regard. The way to deal with a toxic work environment is to move on and find something else.
Your OP sounds petty and childish, perhaps you too have qualities that leave much to be desired. There are those bright enough to improve a business and work place but that says nothing about their overall attitude and disposition.

Find something better regards work and circumstance if you can and work on your humility.

S+F for the rant!

The fact that I cant even ellude to the notion of being er having exceptional "gifts", not even when I call them in fact CURSES, is the entire point herein.

I barely even got started. The point wasnt to one up people. It was just to be able to express myself, and not be judged be belittled for it. Its costs me my hair. And I still wont even try to brag herein, Im just bringing up perspective thus far.

Check it out, I'm so "narcissistic", I opened upon this forums with the thread my life experience ensures will have me hated the most.

If thats the gamble to have an ounce of credibility,with all thats to come, Ill take it....

a reply to: MrBlaq

I'm gifted. People tell me all the time, they say Oh you're so gi... wait, they say special... not gifted.

hrumph...

originally posted by: BrightlyDark
Check it out, I'm so "narcissistic", I opened upon this forums with the thread my life experience ensures will have me hated the most.

If thats the gamble to have an ounce of credibility,with all thats to come, Ill take it....

I may have seemed condescending in my reply to you, that wasn't my intention. I never lie but that doesn't mean I can just say anything I like without regard to circumstance. This thread for instance is one where truth can't be spoken. You view any other perspective on your circumstance as being hateful, why is that? I can tell you but I won't.

I recall Jung once saying he thought he had found a perfectly balanced individual, then he went on to say that a five minute conversation with the gentleman's wife soon put paid to that idea.

We cannot judge ourselves to be this or that but a good guide might be what we receive back from the people that we interact with.

a reply to: MrBlaq

That's the popular belief isn't it?

But ask yourself, what good is a gift if it's never used, and if it's never used because its owner never has the motivation or drive to develop it, is it really a gift?

And how many of life's washouts are sitting on their couches right now, drinking their third or fourth energy drink of the day, playing yet another round of Fortnight (or whatever), and consoling themselves with the idea that they *could* be something great instead of a loser if they only cared to be because they are gifted? And then they turn around and hate on the achievers because those people achieved and have stuff they don't, and why do they think they are special because after all everyone is gifted, but not everyone (like our couch loser) cares to achieve, so we should just take the extra stuff from the achievers and give it to the non-achievers ... because everyone is gifted, so everyone deserves it.

Thank God, I know what my gifts are, and I have the motivation and drive to develop them and they aren't bringing me excessive amounts of money and fame, but the self-confidence to feel like I don't need to take away from others whose gifts did.

I know some extremely intelligent girls
that feel they have to 'dumb down' in public
especially around males

sad. a sacrifice they feel they have to make.
happy is the smart girl that finds an equally smart boyfriend.

I have no personal knowledge of but
I understand its especially true in the inner cities / Black community.

a reply to: ElGoobero

Yes, guys do tend to not like girls who are smarter than they are. And smart guys tend to not girls who are more athletic then they are.

It's the rare guy who can handle the smart athletic chick.

a reply to: BrightlyDark

I thought this was going to be a thread on Gingers.

Gifted people?

*shrugs*

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BrightlyDark

I thought this was going to be a thread on Gingers.

Gifted people?

*shrugs*

But Gingers *are* gifted. In exchange for the magnificent hair, they gave up their souls!

originally posted by: ElGoobero
I know some extremely intelligent girls
that feel they have to 'dumb down' in public
especially around males

sad. a sacrifice they feel they have to make.
happy is the smart girl that finds an equally smart boyfriend.

I have no personal knowledge of but
I understand its especially true in the inner cities / Black community.

I have a child (now adult age) that is extremely intelligent/gifted.
There were teachers intimidated by her. Sometimes it was very difficult. Some teachers do not like to admit when they are wrong and know less than a student.

Many times in her life I had teachers tell me she was the smartest student they had taught, ever in their career.
One teacher had my daughter teach the class as she could convey the information better to her peer. Yes you read that right. My kid got a perfect score on standardized tests, several times. Not that those tests are a sign of intelligence, but I was amazed how she breezed through them. She would get letters from the Governor or other state officials, but they would never show her on the news because she didn’t look a certain way….

You are so right about having to dumb down. The other problem with my kid, she is drop dead gorgeous. So when you are both super smart and gorgeous…. Many guys just can’t handle it. Even relatives get jealous. I had a relative actually tell me that he was the smartest person I know, knowing full well that it is really my daughter.

Gifted is not smart, to me gifted is a person that learns differently and often can learn so quickly.
The super gifted people I know can just pick up things. Things that are so hard for the rest of us. Different languages, abstract math, music etc. They do it in a way as if they had already learned it in a past life or something.

a reply to: JAGStorm

That is intelligence though. Your daughter is likely smarter than me, but I was pretty darn sharp.

One of the biggest indicators of high intellectual potential is how many times we have to be exposed to a new concept in order to pick it up and master it. The truly intellectually gifted require only one or at most two repetitions in order to get it and have it down. Then we look at everyone else and wonder why they find it so tough to understand.

And that's assuming it isn't something that has already interested us enough that we've sought out the concept and already picked it up on our own, so that no one had to teach us.

That intellectual curiosity is also another hallmark of intelligence. If she's what you say she is, I'll bet your daughter displays a good deal of that too when a subject piques her interest.

That ability to rapidly and easily absorb new concepts is why we get smarter than others. What could take someone with less intelligence 15, 20 or more repetitions to pick up, is something we could learn in a day or less and be ready to move on the to the next idea. It's why you see the truly intelligent people going into such advanced concepts ... it's because they've easily mastered everything before that and are ready to push the boundaries. Most others will never get there because it takes them that long to pick stuff up.