How Crazy would it be if Eventually they just give everyone Ivermectin

originally posted by: sciencelol
a reply to: JAGStorm

Dont forget about hydro. Trump said it worked day 1

A very large % of the population of Africa takes hydro, When was the last time you heard about massive covid deaths there?

South Africa, 85,952 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.99%
Morocco, 13,828 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.51%
Tunisia, 24,415 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 3.50%
Ethiopia, 5,090 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.54%
Botswana, 2,343 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.36%
Uganda, 3,119 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.56%
Kenya, 4,965 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.02%
Nigeria, 2,647 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.32%
Rwanda, 1,193 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.26%
Benin, 146 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 0.68%
Ghana, 1,098 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 0,89%
Algeria, 5,651 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.81%
Egypt, 16,921 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 5.73%
Mozambique, 1,903 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.27%
Eswatini, 1,194 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.64%
Angola, 1,371 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.65%
Cote d'Ivoire, 546 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 0.93%
Togo, 211 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 0.87%
Zimbabwe, 4,560 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 3.58%
Zambia, 3,637 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.75%
Mauritania, 761 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.61%
Burrundi, 38 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 0.27%
Namibia, 3,461 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.73%
Cameroon, 1,368 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.60%
Congo (Kinshasa), 1,068 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.89%
Somalia, 1,041 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 5.53%
Malawi, 2,252 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 3.67%
Senegal, 1,842 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.50%
Equatorial Guinea, 137 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.24%
Guinea, 370 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.23%
Gabon, 174 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 0.64%
Guinea-Bissau, 130 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.15%
South Sudan, 121 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.03%
Gambia, 330 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 3.34%
Sao Tome and Principe, 43 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.42%
Sudan, 2,875 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 7.57%
Congo (Brazzaville), 183 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.34%
Burkina Faso, 172 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.23%
Mali, 545 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 3.63%
Djibouti, 157 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.31%
Liberia, 283 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 4.79%
Niger, 201 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 3.38%
Central African Republic, 100 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 0.88%
Eritrea, 40 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 0.60%
Sierra Leone, 121 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.89%
Chad, 174 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 3.47%
Lesotho, 403 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.80%
Tanzania, 50 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 3.66%

I think I see a reason you aren't seeing any news report for "Africa"

Also, I'm not seeing any Ivermectin magic.

Numbers are all over the place, and the Sub Saharan countries, with high infection rates of River Blindness, and therefore higher daily Ivermectin usage, the case-fatality ratios (CFR) are still some of the highest in the world (although there is a lot of variation).

If Ivemectin is as effective as some say, then why are so many of those contracting COVID-19 in countries with high Ivermectin usage, dying in those numbers?

Also, Donald Trump only took HQC for two weeks - self prescribed. His doctors advised him to discontinue it due to his existing heart condition and potential risks.

I am doing fine after taking a two-week course of hydroxychloroquine: Trump

originally posted by: JAGStorm

originally posted by: Bunch
a reply to: JAGStorm
Same thing will happen… half of the country will refuse to take it.

I don't think so, I think we are much more of a 💊 society

They should name the new covid medicine sowdewormer and many ATS members would stand in line for it. Call your vet, I may already be available.

Nah, why pop a pill when all you need to do is gargle with iodine. Apparently, that’s the new cure. Lol

Everyone wants in on the grift.

originally posted by: shaemac

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: JAGStorm

The vaccines and monoclonal antibodies are proving to be far more effective.

It would be crazy to use a less effective treatment that has known issues that amplify some of the deadly and chronic symptoms of COVID-19.

The vaccines are NOT proven to be more effective. Especially since they are still in trial phase until 2023.

The monoclonal antibody treatments have been ceased by the government, and will be highly regulated....so not everyone will get them now.

Soooooooo. How about medical autonomy and let every citizen decide what is best for themselves and allow them to get the treatment THEY WANT.

Donald Trump was treated with the monoclonal antibodies casirivimab and imdevimab, specifically in a mixture from Regeneron. They seemed to be effective for him.

The FDA approved Regeneron's and Eli Lilly's monoclonal antibody treatments in November 2020.

There are ongoing studies that seem to indicate that the vaccines and monoclonal antibodies synergize their effectiveness.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: JAGStorm

The vaccines and monoclonal antibodies are proving to be far more effective.

It would be crazy to use a less effective treatment that has known issues that amplify some of the deadly and chronic symptoms of COVID-19.

How is it you can be so consistently wrong and still maintain your positions so steadfast.

Its like a guy who cant fight and gets his ass kicked every time he does, but picks fights with everyone he meets

a reply to: chr0naut

LOL
Oh really?

COVID-19: The Ivermectin African Enigma - NIH

Introduction: The low frequency of cases and deaths from the SARS-CoV-2 COVID-19 virus in some countries of Africa has called our attention about the unusual behavior of this disease. The ivermectin is considered a drug of choice for various parasitic and viral diseases and shown to have in vitro effects against SARS-CoV-2.

Conclusions: The incidence in mortality rates and number of cases is significantly lower among the APOC countries compared to non-APOC countries. That a mass public health preventive campaign against COVID-19 may have taken place, inadvertently, in some African countries with massive community ivermectin use is an attractive hypothesis. Additional studies are needed to confirm it.

Besides this , WHOs counting ?

Try again....

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Ya, sure, tough guy. You sound like a puss.

originally posted by: MetalThunder
a reply to: chr0naut

LOL
Oh really?

COVID-19: The Ivermectin African Enigma - NIH

Introduction: The low frequency of cases and deaths from the SARS-CoV-2 COVID-19 virus in some countries of Africa has called our attention about the unusual behavior of this disease. The ivermectin is considered a drug of choice for various parasitic and viral diseases and shown to have in vitro effects against SARS-CoV-2.

Conclusions: The incidence in mortality rates and number of cases is significantly lower among the APOC countries compared to non-APOC countries. That a mass public health preventive campaign against COVID-19 may have taken place, inadvertently, in some African countries with massive community ivermectin use is an attractive hypothesis. Additional studies are needed to confirm it.

Besides this , WHOs counting ?

Try again....

Yes there are countries in Sub Saharan Africa with high Ivermectin usage and low CFR, but then there's Sudan and Somalia which blows the Ivermectin theory out of the water.

a reply to: chr0naut

The FDA approved emergency use only of monoclonal antibodies. It's an experimental therapy, no long term studies have been done yet.

I'm not anti Vax or anti antibody therapy. Just clearing up that it's not fully approved yet. I've read of many very anti Vax people getting this therapy and I'm unsure why this experimental therapy is ok, but the Vax isn't.

originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Ya, sure, tough guy. You sound like a puss.

Umm what? Who was talking about being tough? You seem to have some reading comprehension issues going on here

originally posted by: shaemac

originally posted by: JAGStorm
I have a feeling eventually in some weird convoluted way that is what is going to happen. (if the plan isn't to kill most of us off)

First it is vaccine, vaccine, vaccine, then "breakthough" cases. Now to booster shot or not.
We'll probably have a few booster first. Then at some point people are going to say, too many boosters and it's not working...

Then what? I have a guess, therapeutics, which pretty much right now is Ivermectin, vitamins and some other stuff.
It seems like a lot of countries are already doing that, India, Brazil. These aren't small places either and it seems
to be working. I wonder if they will add some other crap in there so "they" don't have to call it Ivermectin.
They will come up with some cocamamie name and tout it as a miracle drug.

We'll see.

Well, check out this video. I don't think you need Instagram to view it. This is a care package being given to covid patients and their families in El Salvador, by the government.

WATCH HERE

I am in the process of trying to download in case some cannot watch it for whatever reason.

EDITED TO ADD:

I UPLOADED TO BITCHUTE

Who would have thought that Mexico and El Salvador were less corrupt, more intelligent and cared more about their citizens than the entire rest of the western world. The US sucks, Canada sucks, Europe sucks, Australia and New Zealand really suck.

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: sciencelol

Now that you mention it i have not seen africa in the news for anything lately if it was not for the canary islands / la palma being right off the coast.

a reply to: sciencelol
I want his bleach-light cure he said we'd get!

Targets? Costco?

originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Ya, sure, tough guy. You sound like a puss.

Might as well get used to it. One big mudpit and plenty of wanna be Texans...all hat no cattle!!

Nature's best...


Nature

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: JAGStorm

originally posted by: Bunch
a reply to: JAGStorm
Same thing will happen… half of the country will refuse to take it.

I don't think so, I think we are much more of a 💊 society

They should name the new covid medicine sowdewormer and many ATS members would stand in line for it. Call your vet, I may already be available.

Just... LOL

Next time you have an infection and your Doctor prescribes you Amoxicillin, refuse it, make fun of him and stomp out of the office.

Because you know, Amoxicillin is also used on fish...

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: sciencelol
I want his bleach-light cure he said we'd get!

Targets? Costco?

It is called Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation (UBI) and has been successfully used for years in the medical field.

You may want to research it a bit...

Knowing what it actually is may possibly make you appear less ignorant on the subject.

Oh, who am I kidding....

a reply to: Lumenari

True dat...

Ultraviolet Irradiation of Blood: “The Cure That Time Forgot”?

Ultraviolet blood irradiation (UBI) was extensively used in the 1940s and 1950s to treat many diseases including septicemia, pneumonia, tuberculosis, arthritis, asthma and even poliomyelitis. The early studies were carried out by several physicians in USA and published in the American Journal of Surgery. However with the development of antibiotics, UBI use declined and it has now been called “the cure that time forgot”. Later studies were mostly performed by Russian workers and in other Eastern countries and the modern view in Western countries is that UBI remains highly controversial.

This chapter discusses the potential of UBI as an alternative approach to current methods used to treat infections, as an immune-modulating therapy and as a method for normalizing blood parameters. No resistance of microorganisms to UV irradiation has been reported, and multi- antibiotic resistant strains are as susceptible as their wild-type counterparts. Low and mild doses of UV kill microorganisms by damaging the DNA, while any DNA damage in host cells can be rapidly repaired by DNA repair enzymes.

UV irradiation of blood was hailed as a miracle therapy for treating serious infections in the 1940s and 1950s. In an ironic quirk of fate, this historical time period coincided with the widespread introduction of penicillin antibiotics, which were rapidly found to be an even bigger medical miracle therapy. Moreover another major success of UBI, which was becoming increasingly used to treat polio, was also eclipsed by the introduction of the Salk polio vaccine in 1955 [91]. UBI had originally been an American discovery, but then was transitioned to being more studied in Russia and other eastern countries, which had long concentrated on physical therapies for many diseases, which were more usually treated with drugs in the West.

Long paper if anyone interested.

Just 4 fun...

"The bizarre offer of curing COVID-19 by shining light up the arse."


twitter.com...

“So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light. […] And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way.”
― Donald J Trump

Lmao speak for yourself buddy........

Still qss hurt because Mark wouldn't let you in on their little production years ago for ATS ....and you still are holding that bitterness...

Lol

originally posted by: tamusan
a reply to: JAGStorm

It won't be ivermectin. It'll be the new pfizer protease inhibitor that is probably just different enough from ivermectin to be called a different drug so they can charge more.

They'll change it just enough so it can be granted a new patent.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: sciencelol
a reply to: JAGStorm

Dont forget about hydro. Trump said it worked day 1

A very large % of the population of Africa takes hydro, When was the last time you heard about massive covid deaths there?

South Africa, 85,952 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.99%
Morocco, 13,828 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.51%
Tunisia, 24,415 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 3.50%
Ethiopia, 5,090 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.54%
Botswana, 2,343 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.36%
Uganda, 3,119 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.56%
Kenya, 4,965 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.02%
Nigeria, 2,647 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.32%
Rwanda, 1,193 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.26%
Benin, 146 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 0.68%
Ghana, 1,098 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 0,89%
Algeria, 5,651 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.81%
Egypt, 16,921 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 5.73%
Mozambique, 1,903 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.27%
Eswatini, 1,194 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.64%
Angola, 1,371 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.65%
Cote d'Ivoire, 546 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 0.93%
Togo, 211 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 0.87%
Zimbabwe, 4,560 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 3.58%
Zambia, 3,637 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.75%
Mauritania, 761 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.61%
Burrundi, 38 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 0.27%
Namibia, 3,461 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.73%
Cameroon, 1,368 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.60%
Congo (Kinshasa), 1,068 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.89%
Somalia, 1,041 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 5.53%
Malawi, 2,252 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 3.67%
Senegal, 1,842 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.50%
Equatorial Guinea, 137 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.24%
Guinea, 370 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.23%
Gabon, 174 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 0.64%
Guinea-Bissau, 130 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.15%
South Sudan, 121 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.03%
Gambia, 330 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 3.34%
Sao Tome and Principe, 43 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.42%
Sudan, 2,875 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 7.57%
Congo (Brazzaville), 183 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.34%
Burkina Faso, 172 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.23%
Mali, 545 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 3.63%
Djibouti, 157 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.31%
Liberia, 283 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 4.79%
Niger, 201 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 3.38%
Central African Republic, 100 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 0.88%
Eritrea, 40 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 0.60%
Sierra Leone, 121 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 1.89%
Chad, 174 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 3.47%
Lesotho, 403 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 2.80%
Tanzania, 50 COVID-19 deaths, CFR 3.66%

I think I see a reason you aren't seeing any news report for "Africa"

Also, I'm not seeing any Ivermectin magic.

Numbers are all over the place, and the Sub Saharan countries, with high infection rates of River Blindness, and therefore higher daily Ivermectin usage, the case-fatality ratios (CFR) are still some of the highest in the world (although there is a lot of variation).

If Ivemectin is as effective as some say, then why are so many of those contracting COVID-19 in countries with high Ivermectin usage, dying in those numbers?

Also, Donald Trump only took HQC for two weeks - self prescribed. His doctors advised him to discontinue it due to his existing heart condition and potential risks.

I am doing fine after taking a two-week course of hydroxychloroquine: Trump

That's kind of a non-sequitur. People taking Ivermectin for riverblindness doesn't mean everyone in the whole country has Ivermectin in their system all the time, or anything like that. It doesn't even mean a statistically significant number of people have it in their system at any given time.

It does mean it is probably widely available, though. So we would have to see if they're using it to treat Covid19 or not.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: MetalThunder
a reply to: chr0naut

LOL
Oh really?

COVID-19: The Ivermectin African Enigma - NIH

Introduction: The low frequency of cases and deaths from the SARS-CoV-2 COVID-19 virus in some countries of Africa has called our attention about the unusual behavior of this disease. The ivermectin is considered a drug of choice for various parasitic and viral diseases and shown to have in vitro effects against SARS-CoV-2.

Conclusions: The incidence in mortality rates and number of cases is significantly lower among the APOC countries compared to non-APOC countries. That a mass public health preventive campaign against COVID-19 may have taken place, inadvertently, in some African countries with massive community ivermectin use is an attractive hypothesis. Additional studies are needed to confirm it.

Besides this , WHOs counting ?

Try again....

Yes there are countries in Sub Saharan Africa with high Ivermectin usage and low CFR, but then there's Sudan and Somalia which blows the Ivermectin theory out of the water.

I'm confused? Somalia has a population of 15.89 million. Approximatly 1/20 the population of the USA. So having 1,041 Covid deaths would be like if the USA had 20,820 covid deaths.

I would think that would just be amazing!


Sudan is almost as amazing. 2,875 deaths? Sudan has a population of 43.85 million. Approximately 1/8 the population of the USA.

So 2,875 deaths for them would be like if the USA had 23,000 deaths.