We Have Forgotten 9/11

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JAGStorm

Yeah, we've forgotten 9/11.

We've forgotten the lives lost then and afterwards.

The sacrifices made.

The trillions spent.

All we have to show for it is the Patriot Act, the TSA, DHS, and the emerging police state.

Being a military brat I’ve flown a lot in my life. I remember a time when you could go on the plane with someone to say goodbye, and come back out and nobody would think twice. There are probably people that don’t believe that or think it’s crazy, but it’s true! We are living in weird times.

It's hard to blame the general public for forgetting when they were never given a coherent story to begin with.

How many Joe Schmos thought the US invading Iraq had to do with the 911 "event"? A lot of them did and our MSM did nothing to clarify it. Quite the opposite.

Without even getting into who dun it and why, or who Osama really is, or any of the harder questions... oh # it. MSM bad.

Well anyone who follows party mentality and only votes one way is brainwashed to me.

Id say anyone who buys into "my party is good, your party evil" is brainwashed.

But what do i know.

originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: shooterbrody

They are just quoting a member of The House of Representatives

Thank you

a reply to: JAGStorm

I still ask if there are any seats avaliable in the smoking section.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JAGStorm

I still ask if there are any seats avaliable in the smoking section.

Do you remember the melamine coffee cups?
Remember we used to all joke about how bad airplane food was (it wasn’t), and they got the last laugh and took it all away!

a reply to: JAGStorm

I remember getting dressed up to fly.

You wore formal clothing, a tie, you behaved.

I've done coach to 1st class since the 70's.

FLying now is like getting on a bus at any Walmart.

a reply to: DBCowboy

lol, you have obviously not been flying business class recently.

Suit and tie not necessary any more, but a lot of business or sleep can happen. The food is also quite good, but unlimited drinks better.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I remember the first time in First Class (free upgrade) and had breakfast served on real plates, metal stainless silverware coffee mug and orange juice in an actual glass glass. Was February or March 2001. On a different flight we had a turbo prop on a short leg and I sat close enough to the captain to talk shop. He would have signed my logbook for one hour of turbo prop instruction if I had it with me.

DB is just jealous because I was among the last to legally smoke on a plane on my birthday that started in a bar in Knoxville and ended up in a bar in Dallas. 25 hour birthday due to the time zone change.

originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: DBCowboy

lol, you have obviously not been flying business class recently.

Suit and tie not necessary any more, but a lot of business or sleep can happen. The food is also quite good, but unlimited drinks better.

lol

At you.

lol

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: DBCowboy

lol, you have obviously not been flying business class recently.

Suit and tie not necessary any more, but a lot of business or sleep can happen. The food is also quite good, but unlimited drinks better.

lol

At you.

lol

LoL received, acknowledged and discarded. i know its probably hard for you to fly given you physical and mental conditions..Just saying, if you are able to fly business class, still pretty good, even with all the latest restrictions.

a reply to: Ahabstar

I liked the 747's with the lounge upstairs.

Did a lot of travel over the Pacific and Atlantic.

Never did the Concorde though.

My folks did out of curiosity. They found it unpleasent.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Noticed in recent years on socialist media any mention of Pearl Harbor has been scrubbed hard. Very little to remind people of that very important date but clock me like a GTA server. Sin of ommission. For 9/11 I've seen nothing yet...

a reply to: DBCowboy

All domestic flights (I know where my bread is buttered and they ain’t locking the door while I am out). I was stuck in Canada for five hours once while the US played games until I had the lady call US Customs and told her to drop my name, DOB and SS # and tell them that I would like to return to the US. She laughed but did it. Phone rang five minutes later with a Welcome to America call. But that was in a semi in 2005.

But there was all kinds of weirdness in 2001. I was in OKC on Monday Feb 19, 2001 catching a flight while W. was speaking at the bombing memorial the day after Dale Earnhardt died. I was a little bummed about losing that gig flying around setting up networks. But in hindsight it was just as well with 9/11 coming since I carried certain tools and materials that would make certain people...nervous...in my carryon. At $300/hr no one wanted to pay for me waiting on lost luggage soI carried things to keep busy on a job.

a reply to: JAGStorm

To be fair, it was twenty years ago now. I'm going to sound callous as # here, but...the majority of us moved on by the 5th year out. It's a personal thing for the survivors & families of the lost now, honestly, it is. You can't expect unimpacted folks to hold it in the same regard forever.

A tragedy can only be milked for so long before apathy strikes. We reeaally milked the hell out of it for 20 years, to justify a lot of sketchy #. A "meh" attitude doesn't surprise me, it's the end-result of years of annual re-hash inundation and war drum beating.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Forgetting' is not accidental.

It has been the democrat's official platform for quite a while.

Official platform you say?

I'm sure they'd like us to forget they were just as hawkish as the right through the whole thing, and arguably longer...

But you're just mashing words together and hoping they stick.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Forgetting' is not accidental.

It has been the democrat's official platform for quite a while.

Official platform you say?

I'm sure they'd like us to forget they were just as hawkish as the right through the whole thing, and arguably longer...

But you're just mashing words together and hoping they stick.

I 'mashed' words together to make a point.

It appears to have worked as intended.

Might be easier to just own it.

Democrats have been trying to downplay 9/11 since the day they decided that Obama would be a good choice for president.

And every day since.

Joe just Fd up Afghanistan withdrawal in effort to make that point even bolder on 9/11 this year.

Quite a few Americans paid a heavy price for that.

And millions of (now former) allies.

We didn't forget 9/11, we never learned it. Only those who pulled it off know what brought the towers down, how planes were flying hijacked without interference for hours or why those who made stock shorts were never publicized or prosecuted? Our military failed, our government failed and the media failed. That formula has proven fantastically successful ever since.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Obama was no pacifist. I could list many ways on how he was one of the most hawkish presidents... But your original statement just doesn't stand. I think you got caught up in all the theatrics and lip service both sides were doing while the same common theme continued, for our longest war in history.

But it seems many have forgotten 9/11 because of partisan agendas, and they're on both sides.

Because lest us forget, Iraq took a lot of our attention off the very perpetrator. We even lost him in Tora Bora, and were chasing him for over a decade.

We ended up losing more than the attacks themselves. Then if you start getting into how many serviceman and their families were directly effected for generations, the numbers get staggering.

It took both parties to make all that happen, and the incompetence spanned over multiple administrations.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Obama was no pacifist. I could list many ways on how he was one of the most hawkish presidents... But your original statement just doesn't stand. I think you got caught up in all the theatrics and lip service both sides were doing while the same common theme continued, for our longest war in history.

But it seems many have forgotten 9/11 because of partisan agendas, and they're on both sides.

Because lest us forget, Iraq took a lot of our attention off the very perpetrator. We even lost him in Tora Bora, and were chasing him for over a decade.

We ended up losing more than the attacks themselves. Then if you start getting into how many serviceman and their families were directly effected for generations, the numbers get staggering.

It took both parties to make all that happen, and the incompetence spanned over multiple administrations.

Never claimed that Obama was pacifist.

He isn't.

But it was necessary to change the 9/11 narrative in order to elect Obama.

So that's what democrats set out to do.

And when they did it.