China is building a giant spaceship

a reply to: Gothmog

China always saying we gonna do .....
Then ....
Crickets chirping .

I disagree , they said they were going to build the worlds largest radio telescope , send a mission to the Moon and go to Mars all of which they have done in recent years.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Its not just people from China that have issues getting on the property ladder these days RussianTroll.

A semi decent house in the UK will set you back at least 1/4 of a million pounds.

And thats not even London.

originally posted by: lostbook
a reply to: RussianTroll

It's very ambitious of China. Maybe this will wake up certain US industries to the fact that there's competition in the Space game once again. Space race 2.0 here we come!

Race isn't always a bad thing. It supports the competition that drives progress. If only this process was not ideologized and politicized, but served the whole of humanity.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: RussianTroll

Its not just people from China that have issues getting on the property ladder these days RussianTroll.

A semi decent house in the UK will set you back at least 1/4 of a million pounds.

And thats not even London.

Yes you are right. Although in Russia, thanks to the housing privatization program, the number of homeowners is the highest in the world. I have my own home, my parents, my brother and sisters, and all my friends and relatives. But my daughter does not have her own home yet. In Russia, this problem concerns mainly young people.

a reply to: RussianTroll

I was expecting a standard anti CCP post or fear mongering. What i got was an entire framework for understanding humans.

Well done...fantastic op. Thank you.

a reply to: RussianTroll

We have social housing over here as well mate, but you don't really want to bring up kids in our housing schemes if you can help it.

And we also still have 320,000+ poor homeless sods on the streets or in temporary accommodation waiting in line to receive a roof over there heads.

Dont get me wrong i grew up in a Glasgow tenement sometimes, people are the salt of the Earth, but the buildings and schemes come with all sorts of issues both structural and social to contend with.

But i digress i suppose as this is about China.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: RussianTroll

I was expecting a standard anti CCP post or fear mongering. What i got was an entire framework for understanding humans.

Well done...fantastic op. Thank you.

In vain do you suspect me of something. I write here what I think. My stay on the forum does not pursue other goals than communication and the opportunity to understand each other. And my nickname reflects only my irony to the standard ideas about Russians in the West)))

a reply to: andy06shake

Thanks for the answer. We have more in common than separating us)))

a reply to: RussianTroll

People are always more similar that different RussianTroll.

Same crap to contend with, slightly different wrapping paper.

No matter the system of governance in place.

The title is misleading.
China in not building a giant spaceship.
They are funding a research project.

"the Chinese foundation’s project would gather researchers to investigate some of the engineering challenges of such a venture. For example, a key concern would be to reduce the weight of the craft’s components, since such a large facility would require multiple launches of various sections to be later assembled on orbit."

The spaceship is not going to happen (at least not for decades) but they might come up with some interesting ideas while doing the research.

I think the Chinese play the long game and will easily finance their empire. They have purchased land and businesses all over the world specifically to get rare earth metals and necessities to run their manufacturing. Then they unleashed the virus to limit the rest of the world’s economies. And before Biden/Harris is over the dollar will be second to the yuan and the US will be owned by China. If the US rises up to fight, China holds it hostage with economic consequences or thousands of warheads, whatever it takes.

a reply to: Bluntone22

Need a cost effective way of getting stuff into low Earth orbit before projects like this ever become more than a pipedream.

What happened to Aerospike engines?

They were supposed to be able to do the job a lot better than our conventional rocket motors.

a reply to: Bluntone22

Research and development projects are part of the overall construction project in any industry. Even the construction of a vacuum cleaner begins with them. Nothing can be built without a scientific research base. This is an axiom.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Bluntone22

Need a cost effective way of getting stuff into low Earth orbit before projects like this ever become more than a pipedream.

What happened to Aerospike engines?

They were supposed to be able to do the job a lot better than our conventional rocket motors.

Exactly. When it takes 99 pounds of rocket to put 1 pound in orbit it's not to efficient.

Orbital velocity is a bitch

a reply to: Bluntone22

When i was a wean Bluntone22 were promised bases on the Moon by now in our library books.

Instead we got broadband and mobile phones. LoL

They were right about somethings not so much about others.

a reply to: andy06shake

That's what our kids and grandkids will say about a martian colony.

a reply to: Bluntone22

Thing is even the soil up there even wants to kill us never mind the atmosphere and associated radiologicals.

Might manage one of the moons of Jupiter or Even Saturn one day.

For the time being Mars is pretty much deadly unless we are up for serious genetic modifications aka humanity 2.0.

Or learn the art of Terraforming rather sharpish.

a reply to: carewemust

In the news about a month ago it was reported an asteroid is heading in the direction of Earth and there is a possibility it could collide with Earth anytime between now and 2030.

a reply to: RussianTroll

A very convenient excuse to put plenty of weapon systems into space in a short amount of time allowing China to leap frog the west (including Russia) and become the dominant power in earth orbit and beyond.

This would of course be step one in a far more ambitious plan to colonise the moon and of course in the longer term Mars and the asteroid belt as well as creating a number more of these orbital facility's should this succeed.

It will ensure Chinas dominance into the future.


Meanwhile our leaders are a bunch of Morons more intent on pushing the short term plan to benefit corporations and even cull the human population (thus removing the force that drives our economic and social advancement and pitching the bulk of humanity back into a dark ages).

In the west they have there DUMBS but there are claims from some notable but untrustworthy sources that claim they already have secret installations on the Moon and even on Mars and on this one point I believe there is more than enough truth that they are in possession of far higher technological and scientific ability's than the public or even the majority of the military will ever know but that this (A) tiny cabal of the elite are keeping it for themselves to ensure there own power and being when all is said and done a group of moron's fearing the inevitable fall of there own power base they are doing all they can to prevent that knowledge (which they did not create, invent or inspire but stole for control purposes) from reaching the general public or affecting society (and that is why we don't have more free clean energy, better methods of transport, better health care and cures for many diseases and a far better quality of life because you have to keep the slaves in chains and whipped if you want them to work and be your servants right, it's not about the money it's about the power and the control over others without which these elite would be redundant).

China has it's own Elite, they are even more dangerous and have shown how they culled there own population, the cultural revolution tearing community's apart, murdering teachers in the streets (were do you think Pol Pot - and the Khmer rouge - got his ideas from), forcing millions to starve to death because Mao wanted to destroy the history, identity and traditions of China followed by the one child family which was meant to halve China's population with little girls being born and murdered and female lives regarded as nothing by them.

Now China has realized the error of it's way's on that latter part the one child family and knows it only succeeded because it fed itself like a parasite off the west, off the greed of capitalism and the willingness to exploit cheap labour, move industry to China and train the Chinese in all the west's latest invention's and innovation's.

Now as China has become more wealthy and powerful while the west deprived of it's skill's, job's and industry has become ever more poor and weak those day's are drawing to a close so China is now looking for territory to expand into, Eastern Russia is being eyes by it and they have even lain claim to Vladivostok which they claim like they do just about every other place they fancy is really part of China that Russia is just occupying at the moment and they shall some day take back.

And Russia should be leery, while the Chinese do not have a vast list of victory's they did defeat several Russian imperial army's in the past even at the start of the twentieth century when a well equipped Russian Army was defeated by a Chinese army equipped with fire work's and muskets, similarly in 1969 a well equipped push by the Soviet Red Army was beaten off by a far less well equipped Chinese army and Russia even lost some territory in that undeclared conflict.

So the Chinese believe they CAN beat Russian forces in a conventional battle, this is helped by the fact both army's are mostly conscripts rather than professional soldiers and so are really just young boy's shoved into uniforms, sent to boot camp and then sent to fight one another if it comes down to that and the fact the Chinese have far more of them.

So China is looking far beyond into much of Eurasia with long term plans to dominate through the wooden horse of there belt and road plan.

If politics were not the problem and if the RACISM of the Chinese was not an issue (They are actually extremely racist and believe the HAN are a superior human race, that's right the Aborted baby eating cannibalistic Han).

Then I would say this would be a monumental achievement for the human race and despair that we should have done this decades ago when both the West and Russia had the means but did not get off there arses (unless it was done black budget but then we can regard the black government as NOT the west but a third party that has no one's well being at there heart and as just another enemy faction).

I have also to echo the sentiment, is this because they fear an impending doom of some kind and want there own ark for there elite to survive?.

When you have unlimited slave labor like China does it's dramatically lowers the cost of everything.