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originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: GolgothaBridge
Do you not find it a little odd that out of all Jesus' followers only 3 decided to write anything down?
he apparently had thousands of people following him... hanging on every word of his ministry yet only three wrote anything
Strangely enough in 1945 a stack of books emerged from a cave in the desert... Now why do you think people needed to hide such manuscripts from the world back then?
Im guessing the emerging church destroyed books and people for anything they didn't want taught to their followers
makes you wonder how much was destroyed by these so called leaders
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Raggedyman
Could be... that would make more sense then only three people deciding to write anything he said down...
wars... maybe
age and weathering... likely not... we do have 1st century writing in abundance and earlier... just nothing about him
granted he was pretty much unknown in the first century but i find it hard to believe no one out of the thousands of his followers wrote anything... though i tend to point to the Vatican library
i would bet they have material that will never be release for whatever their reasons are
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: LetTheColdCome
i was actually speaking of his direct words, as in the gospels... but point taken
And actually i've done plenty of research on early church history... 16 years worth
Theres nothing from the first century about him aside from two fragments... one from the gospel of john about the size of a credit card... and another fragment recently discovered in a paper mache mask
aside from that the closest thing we have to show he even existed was the pilot stone which only proves the man that sent him to his death existed
So, you do at least find it interesting!
Do you doubt that he actually existed?
originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: GolgothaBridge
Who cares, my faith is in Jesus, not the bible
If it’s not perfect, it points clearly to He who is, that’s enough
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: LetTheColdCome
So, you do at least find it interesting!
absolutely... ancient writing is one of my favorite things to read... no need to apologize
this was my reading list when i was knee deep in this subject matter
www.earlychristianwritings.com...
pretty sure i've been through just about every one of them too over those years... though its been quite a few years i've gotten away from it lately... life is just too busy... but a lot of my thoughts i've more or less documented on this forum in the past... almost 11 years
Do you doubt that he actually existed?
I have no doubt he was a real person... and a great teacher... the miracles i question... but anything is possible is this weird messed up world