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originally posted by: Stormdancer777
You know none of us know what the truth is, Just what we want the truth to be,World leaders full of sneaky alternative motives, Authors of confusion.
We are the confused , They have done a fine job.
What is the point of taking sides?
You chose one evil over another? You know they are wicked.
originally posted by: SLAYER69
NO BS
I hate to say it, President Biden is right.
There is no "Right" time to pull out. We gave Afghanistan access to the Wests most prized treasure, [Young American/Western minds]
China/Afgan.... Enjoy the Stench
originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
a reply to: SLAYER69
If 'we all knew what was coming', why the F did joe abandon 86,000 Americans & allies there?
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: MonsterGirl
The Soviets didn't 'lose".
Did I say they did?
Or maybe it's a language thing. "Bailed", means they left. Departed. Were no longer present.
originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: ufoorbhunter
...and how did that end, again??
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: MonsterGirl
Maybe it's a language thing. "Bailed", means they left. Departed. Were no longer present.
I don't know what the Russian equivalent would be.
originally posted by: visitedbythem
a reply to: SLAYER69
One by one, the Taliban has been taking over areas in a number of provinces in northern Afghanistan in recent weeks, local officials told CNN. The Taliban says it has taken control of 90 districts across the country since the middle of May. Some were seized without a single shot fired.
As the Taliban take control of districts across the country, US intelligence assessments have suggested the country's civilian government could fall to the militant group within months of US forces withdrawing. The top US general there, Austin Scott Miller, warned Tuesday that the worsening violence could lead to civil war, according to news reports.
In 2017, the Taliban issued an open letter to the newly elected US President Donald Trump, calling on him to withdraw US forces from Afghanistan.
After years of negotiations, the Taliban and the Trump administration finally signed a peace deal in 2020. The US agreed to withdraw troops and release some 5,000 Taliban prisoners, while the Taliban agreed to take steps to prevent any group or individual, including al Qaeda, from using Afghanistan to threaten the security of the US or its allies.
But that didn't bring about peace.
Violence in Afghanistan grew to its highest levels in two decades. The Taliban increased their control of wider swaths of the country -- and by June of this year, contested or controlled an estimated 50% to 70% of Afghan territory outside of urban centers, according to a United Nations Security Council report.
KABUL — Taliban checkpoints have proliferated across key parts of Afghanistan as U.S. forces have withdrawn over the past year, leaving Afghan towns and cities increasingly isolated and impeding the Afghan government’s ability to function. Dozens of temporary Taliban checkpoints now dot the main highways leading into and out of the Afghan capital, according to eight local officials, and more than 10 permanent outposts have been established by the militants along the country’s main north-south highway. Many of the new permanent outposts are checkpoints abandoned by government forces stretched thin by the U.S. drawdown, pushed out by expanding Taliban influence, or both.
Multiple videos have recently surfaced on social media platforms, showing people allegedly collecting donations for the Taliban. VOA could not independently verify the authenticity of these videos. The increased fundraising comes as the Taliban have captured more than a dozen districts across Afghanistan. Some Afghan officials say the militants have become emboldened since the United States and its NATO allies began withdrawing remaining forces on May 1.
The Taliban, now at their greatest strength since 2001, are advancing and attacking in districts across Afghanistan - despite a deal signed with the US in February which seemed to promise a respite to a nation exhausted by war and increasingly worried it will only get worse.
The Taliban took some areas from government by force. In other areas, the Afghan National Army withdrew without a shot being fired. Although renewed clashes had been going on for several weeks,
Mapping the advance of the Taliban in Afghanistan
Then there is this from the State Department via the U.S. Embassy in Afghanistan, the one that really says the most.
July 27 2021
On April 27, 2021, the Department ordered the departure from U.S. Embassy Kabul of U.S. government employees whose functions can be performed elsewhere.
The U.S. Embassy’s ability to provide routine and emergency services to U.S. citizens in Afghanistan is severely limited, particularly outside of Kabul. Evacuation options from Afghanistan are extremely limited due to the lack of infrastructure, geographic constraints, and the volatile security situation.
Afghanistan Travel Advisory – Level 4: Do Not Travel
With all the reports and activity going on, there's no way Government officials or anybody there or else where for that matter couldn't have known it was happening fast.
Only had to fix one link, not bad i guess.
edit on 27-8-2021 by TomCollin because: (no reason given)edit on 27-8-2021 by TomCollin because: (no reason given)
On April 27, 2021, the Department ordered the departure from U.S. Embassy Kabul of U.S. government employees whose functions can be performed elsewhere.
The U.S. Embassy’s ability to provide routine and emergency services to U.S. citizens in Afghanistan is severely limited, particularly outside of Kabul. Evacuation options from Afghanistan are extremely limited due to the lack of infrastructure, geographic constraints, and the volatile security situation.
originally posted by: BlackKat
The notion that Afghanistan is where empires go to die conveniently ignores that fact that the Ummah tried and succeeded. The muslims won the region because they are not afraid to use unrelenting violence to achieve their goal of Islamic supremacism. Prior to the muslim conquest, the entire region was filled with Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, and others.
The region can be won...but only by a people willing to do what it takes to win. It's not a place where empires go to die, it's a place where confused empires go to squander the blood of their citizens.
Sadly, now that the entire region is awash in Islamic ignorance, the region is not much of a prize.