MILITARY INSIDER: They Panicked When They Saw The Future

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: SeventhChapter

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: SeventhChapter

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: SeventhChapter

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: SeventhChapter

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: SeventhChapter

This has been the plot line of a few SciFi drama's. "Devs" comes to mind as one that most closely fits.

Not particularly original.

Interesting. Did you listen to the video? About 2/3 way through this guy talks about us (humanity) creating our own reality. If you can get enough people thinking about something then you essentially can manifest it into existence. Modern science is actively studying this phenomenon now, and one example could be the “observer effect” demonstrated during the CERN experiments. One possibility, is the “dark side” understands this concept very well, and has created technologies like the TV and movies to sort of trick us into manifesting an event into reality.
news.stanford.edu...

One theory: Our soul has been downloaded or incarnated into human vehicles so we can experience this reality. Our consciousness can manipulate the illusion we call reality by interacting at the quantum level. If everything is made up of energy vibration and frequency as Nicola Tesla discovered, then its very likely our consciousness has the power to change that reality with thoughts intent etc...

Next time you get pinged for running a red traffic light, just imagine it was green. Then at least 50% of the observers will not have run a red light. See how that works for you.

From what I have read, that’s not how this works, at least beings of the 3rd density. For us the interaction takes place at the subconscious level. If people created at the conscious level we would be able to manipulate in real-time. With this ability happening at the subconscious level there seems to be a delay in what we observe as time on this planet, and manifestation. As you grow in consciousness, this ability also grows, however my understanding is that you can only manifest events that align with your own personal spiritual evolution. If you use this ability to side track a lesson you contractually came here to learn, it will not work.

This sort of stuff all relies on the assumption that we know pretty much what we are observing and don't ever misrepresent it when trying to make sense of it.

It's easy to think that an unconscious element of our processing is 'all knowledgeable', because someone else can't ever just break down in derisive laughter at the concept.

It’s also possible each of our realities is entirely created by us, and that there is no true objective reality.

www.technologyreview.com...

Yes, realities are different to different observers, especially in the quantum domain (which is what I posted previously about indeterminacy).

The mistake is to assume that, because there are different observational 'realities', that we have any control over them.

There is nothing to say that we could enforce a quantum outcome to happen every time - by any method.

I’m not sure you’re correct on that. I’ve proven to myself beyond a reasonable doubt and what would be normally considered a coincidence that we can and do create the reality that we experience. After proving this to myself I set out to figure out how this is possible, and the best answer I can give is.. God. There is an intelligent field of existence that surrounds everything. You can “sway the field of existence in your favor”. Have you ever had a time period where things inexplicably fell into place exactly as you intended, with a sequence of events that were so flawlessly manifested it shocked you? Well when you figure this out, you realize there really are no coincidences — and this also explains why praying works.

Obviously God, being omnipotent, could do that. But God is a God of order and of supreme intelligence.

God won't do just anything you might pray for.

It depends on what your beliefs are. That is what is so fascinating about this conversation. And I have to tip my hat to you (I know we have not agreed on everything) for having an open mind. Maybe there is some common ground we can all agree upon. God could literally be us! We could be an extension of God consciousness. The scenario ( I think depicted in the Bible) where God says go out an experience everything. We are all connected. We are all consciousness. And the progression end goal is universal completion. And then the next question is what is universal completion? Well it could be a scenario where all possibilities were explored and the creation chose love over fear....I, just guessing right now.

The key part of this lesson, is how do these concepts relate to the world we all perceive around us now. How can we better make sense of the world and the direction it is being directed in, enabling more souls to wake up from a regressive control structure? Do you not agree the control structure on this planet is rapidly moving us towards a regressive (absence of God) perception?

a reply to: SeventhChapter

Project Looking glass according to several whistleblowers is essentially a highly advanced quantum computer which can peak into the future

This is very confusing.

"Project Looking glass"?

Is the name of the project "Project Looking", as you didn't capitalize 'glass'?

Isn't "Looking-Glass" supposed to be hyphenated anyway? (I guess you can write a name any way you want)

Could the name of this project be just 'Looking'? Or perhaps "Project Looking glass according"? You could make it clear by punctuation, but for some reason, you chose not to do so. A comma in the right place does wonders for clarity.

So a project is a computer - this is already very confusing. How can a whole project be a computer?

Then the most confusing bit hits - 'peak into the future'. I had no idea 'peaking' is a verb. Mountains have peaks, but they don't 'peak into the sky', do they?

Could your post BE more confusing?

I assume you know the difference between words like 'peek' and 'peak', or you wouldn't be attempting to write a post in the english language, let alone assert yourself to be a trustworthy information source..maybe I am assuming too much.

originally posted by: Shoujikina
a reply to: SeventhChapter

Project Looking glass according to several whistleblowers is essentially a highly advanced quantum computer which can peak into the future

This is very confusing.

"Project Looking glass"?

Is the name of the project "Project Looking", as you didn't capitalize 'glass'?

Isn't "Looking-Glass" supposed to be hyphenated anyway? (I guess you can write a name any way you want)

Could the name of this project be just 'Looking'? Or perhaps "Project Looking glass according"? You could make it clear by punctuation, but for some reason, you chose not to do so. A comma in the right place does wonders for clarity.

So a project is a computer - this is already very confusing. How can a whole project be a computer?

Then the most confusing bit hits - 'peak into the future'. I had no idea 'peaking' is a verb. Mountains have peaks, but they don't 'peak into the sky', do they?

Could your post BE more confusing?

I assume you know the difference between words like 'peek' and 'peak', or you wouldn't be attempting to write a post in the english language, let alone assert yourself to be a trustworthy information source..maybe I am assuming too much.

Hey thanks for the reply.
I’m really more focused on content than semantics.
The semantics in this particular topic are really irrelevant because the classified gov project portrayed by multiple whistleblowers is not in the public domain.
Have you looked into this? Do you have any knowledge to add? I was a chem/biology major in college and to be honest, I’ve never been the best speller, and admittedly prob rely on spellcheck more than I should—but really, I’m not sure how that has any relevance to the discussion.
If you’re really interested in the topic, I’d suggest listening to the video, then researching quantum computers and how they could potentially PEEK future.

originally posted by: SeventhChapter

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: SeventhChapter

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: SeventhChapter

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: SeventhChapter

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: SeventhChapter

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: SeventhChapter

This has been the plot line of a few SciFi drama's. "Devs" comes to mind as one that most closely fits.

Not particularly original.

Interesting. Did you listen to the video? About 2/3 way through this guy talks about us (humanity) creating our own reality. If you can get enough people thinking about something then you essentially can manifest it into existence. Modern science is actively studying this phenomenon now, and one example could be the “observer effect” demonstrated during the CERN experiments. One possibility, is the “dark side” understands this concept very well, and has created technologies like the TV and movies to sort of trick us into manifesting an event into reality.
news.stanford.edu...

One theory: Our soul has been downloaded or incarnated into human vehicles so we can experience this reality. Our consciousness can manipulate the illusion we call reality by interacting at the quantum level. If everything is made up of energy vibration and frequency as Nicola Tesla discovered, then its very likely our consciousness has the power to change that reality with thoughts intent etc...

Next time you get pinged for running a red traffic light, just imagine it was green. Then at least 50% of the observers will not have run a red light. See how that works for you.

From what I have read, that’s not how this works, at least beings of the 3rd density. For us the interaction takes place at the subconscious level. If people created at the conscious level we would be able to manipulate in real-time. With this ability happening at the subconscious level there seems to be a delay in what we observe as time on this planet, and manifestation. As you grow in consciousness, this ability also grows, however my understanding is that you can only manifest events that align with your own personal spiritual evolution. If you use this ability to side track a lesson you contractually came here to learn, it will not work.

This sort of stuff all relies on the assumption that we know pretty much what we are observing and don't ever misrepresent it when trying to make sense of it.

It's easy to think that an unconscious element of our processing is 'all knowledgeable', because someone else can't ever just break down in derisive laughter at the concept.

It’s also possible each of our realities is entirely created by us, and that there is no true objective reality.

www.technologyreview.com...

Yes, realities are different to different observers, especially in the quantum domain (which is what I posted previously about indeterminacy).

The mistake is to assume that, because there are different observational 'realities', that we have any control over them.

There is nothing to say that we could enforce a quantum outcome to happen every time - by any method.

I’m not sure you’re correct on that. I’ve proven to myself beyond a reasonable doubt and what would be normally considered a coincidence that we can and do create the reality that we experience. After proving this to myself I set out to figure out how this is possible, and the best answer I can give is.. God. There is an intelligent field of existence that surrounds everything. You can “sway the field of existence in your favor”. Have you ever had a time period where things inexplicably fell into place exactly as you intended, with a sequence of events that were so flawlessly manifested it shocked you? Well when you figure this out, you realize there really are no coincidences — and this also explains why praying works.

Obviously God, being omnipotent, could do that. But God is a God of order and of supreme intelligence.

God won't do just anything you might pray for.

It depends on what your beliefs are. That is what is so fascinating about this conversation. And I have to tip my hat to you (I know we have not agreed on everything) for having an open mind. Maybe there is some common ground we can all agree upon. God could literally be us! We could be an extension of God consciousness.

While God can, and no doubt does, experience creation through us, as well as through omniscience, we don't experience creation through the mind of God. That is 'other' to us.

Although it is clear that God, at least the God of the Bible, has in mind a plan that allows for our future advancement. We will not remain as we now are, either through our own efforts or through God's plan. Pierre Teilhard de Chardin in his book The Phenomenon of Man explores these ideas. I think I agree with most of what he postulates.

The scenario ( I think depicted in the Bible) where God says go out an experience everything. We are all connected. We are all consciousness. And the progression end goal is universal completion.

I don't think that the Bible says that, at least not in those terms.

And then the next question is what is universal completion? Well it could be a scenario where all possibilities were explored and the creation chose love over fear....I, just guessing right now.

The Bible does say "the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom" (Psalm 111:10, Proverbs 1:7, Job 28:28, etc). So I think it isn't as simple and polarized as you phrase it. I believe that the the Bible outlines and underlines the 'otherness' of God and how in a monotheistic worldview, a supreme God is above and beyond any sort of human manipulation.

There also aren't even other gods who can be manipulated to apply their influence over a monotheistic God.

In a polytheistic world the gods can vie with each other and are also subject to the rules of 'the realm of the gods', but a supreme monotheistic God is absolute.

The key part of this lesson, is how do these concepts relate to the world we all perceive around us now. How can we better make sense of the world and the direction it is being directed in, enabling more souls to wake up from a regressive control structure? Do you not agree the control structure on this planet is rapidly moving us towards a regressive (absence of God) perception?

There has always been a certain portion of the populace that are atheist. I think that the vast majority of the planet has belief in spiritual beings. This does not imply that they all have God concepts, or the same concepts of God.

Even many people who purport to be Christian, and are adamant and passionate, are not in agreement with each other.

I don't think the planet is moving towards atheism.

originally posted by: Shoujikina
a reply to: SeventhChapter

Project Looking glass according to several whistleblowers is essentially a highly advanced quantum computer which can peak into the future

This is very confusing.

"Project Looking glass"?

Is the name of the project "Project Looking", as you didn't capitalize 'glass'?

Isn't "Looking-Glass" supposed to be hyphenated anyway? (I guess you can write a name any way you want)

Could the name of this project be just 'Looking'? Or perhaps "Project Looking glass according"? You could make it clear by punctuation, but for some reason, you chose not to do so. A comma in the right place does wonders for clarity.

So a project is a computer - this is already very confusing. How can a whole project be a computer?

Then the most confusing bit hits - 'peak into the future'. I had no idea 'peaking' is a verb. Mountains have peaks, but they don't 'peak into the sky', do they?

Could your post BE more confusing?

I assume you know the difference between words like 'peek' and 'peak', or you wouldn't be attempting to write a post in the english language, let alone assert yourself to be a trustworthy information source..maybe I am assuming too much.

WTF? Totally discredited now, and worse, the OP has confused all the liberals.

a reply to: chr0naut


Pint 1: I agree - but to assume we completely understand and speak of such certainty is dangerous IMO. It is entirely possible the mind of God is either all that is, or at the top of a pyramid of consciousness hierarchy per say.

Point 2: yes indeed the Bible does imply that God is love and those who resonate in love frequency ( my own interpretation) are working with God consciousness. My interpretation : The more love you have in your life the more God consciousness you have, and if you believe in a progression, this would mean the path to higher density or consciousness level. I’m sure it’s much much more complicated than that. Now on the contrary, the opposite of love would be fear (on the consciousness frequency scale) so therefore there is an opposition, that wants to keep us in a state of fear, and moving away from Love/God.

“I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in me that does not bear fruit he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. Already you are clean because of the word that I have spoken to you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me. I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. ...John 15: 1-27

In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you. John 14:20

So we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. By this is love perfected with us, so that we may have confidence for the day of judgment, because as he is so also are we in this world. There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love. We love because he first loved us. John. 4:16-19

So we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. John 4:16

Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love. John 4:8

Point 3. I believe the Bible may have been manipulated by the “gods”. Beings not from this planet who deliberately wanted to keep humanity in the dark, omitting any information that would lead us to figuring out who we are, and keeping us weak, directing our prayer energy to false “gods” (them). Any area of the Bible that discusses fear as a means of deterrent, is a modification. From what I understand of God, or love consciousness, there would never need any sort of fear as means of control. The above human manipulation part, again, I believe is the work of the “gods” manipulation.

Point 4: Atheism is a lower consciousness perspective in my opinion. Remember your beliefs and thoughts create your own reality (IMO). If you believe in no higher power or intelligent field of existence, well then, it won’t be present for you, based on what I understand. I believe most of the worlds religions were based off of and modified by the gods (note lowercase) in order to direct our consciousness at them instead of source. Why? It makes the gods more powerful. I believe Jesus or Yeshua was a high level ascended group consciousness and many on this planet are directly affiliated with that consciousness. There are many other advanced high higher density consciousness beings as well that others could be affiliated with. If you think of the Go consciousness has kind of a hierarchical chain with the prime created at the top, but then has many levels through all densities, where we as humans in this reality are relatively low on the ladder, it with the potential to become quite advanced through the universal progression.

And allow me to go a bit off topic to say:
I’m incredibly grateful to have a place where so many free thinking and open minded people gather to exchange viewpoints. The uncensored discussion here is uplifting, especially given today’s environment where areas of free and open discussion are being torn down, or censored. We as humanity are so much stronger when we are together, and it’s this open discourse and communication that facilitates our connection.
Thank you to ATS, and more importantly the people who contribute and make this site great.

originally posted by: SeventhChapter
a reply to: chr0naut


Pint 1: I agree - but to assume we completely understand and speak of such certainty is dangerous IMO. It is entirely possible the mind of God is either all that is, or at the top of a pyramid of consciousness hierarchy per say.

A monotheistic supreme God is all there is. In the Bible, When early experiencers asked who God was, He replied "I Am".

Everything other than God is God's creation. That doesn't mean that the creation is God. If someone builds a garage, the garage does not become a conscious being like they are, it's a garage.

Point 2: yes indeed the Bible does imply that God is love and those who resonate in love frequency ( my own interpretation) are working with God consciousness.

The Bible does not mention frequency, or resonance, or consciousness.

In relation to spiritual aspects, those things are all Eastern attempts at syncretism between Eastern religions and the Christian faith.

There were pagan and Eastern concepts around, especially later, during Jesus' life on Earth and in the early church, but the Bible is quite clear in its opposition to those things.

My interpretation : The more love you have in your life the more God consciousness you have, and if you believe in a progression, this would mean the path to higher density or consciousness level. I’m sure it’s much much more complicated than that.

Does that excuse crimes of passion? Motivated by misplaced feelings, and motivation of love? Some of the most evil people of all time have tried to excuse their evil actions by saying that they did what they did out of love.

The Bible also reveals that God is just. A just God could not excuse someone who does evil acts. That would be unfair for those who have striven all their lives to do what is right.

Clearly the type of love described in the Bible, and that is attributed to God, is the love of a parent for their child. A loving parent wouldn't just let their child run wild, and potentially be self-destructive. So there is a modicum of discipline encompassed by that love, and also by the dictates of justice.

Now on the contrary, the opposite of love would be fear (on the consciousness frequency scale) so therefore there is an opposition, that wants to keep us in a state of fear, and moving away from Love/God.

The opposite to love is apathy, indifference, and self-centeredness, not hate or fear.

Love, hate, grief, and infatuation, are all strong emotions and are bound together. They are passionate and, to a certain extent, the 'self' becomes irrelevant, submerged in their light. Indifference couldn't care less about any other person.

... snipped, because I had to reduce text to fit the edit.

Point 3. I believe the Bible may have been manipulated by the “gods”. Beings not from this planet who deliberately wanted to keep humanity in the dark, omitting any information that would lead us to figuring out who we are, and keeping us weak, directing our prayer energy to false “gods” (them).

The Bible is clear 'other' gods are false because they don't exist as anything more that the deceptive imaginings of people who divert from the true God.

Also prayer is communication with, and requests to, God. We have no 'power' that we are sending out from us. If there is any energy in prayer, it is in the other direction, from God who has that power, to us, who don't.

Even when healing and miracles occur in relation to prayer, it's not because the humans have power to achieve great miracles. We barely understand how our bodies work, let alone know how to manipulate reality at the lowest level in a way that causes such healing. It is because God grants those things out of love. That is why you don't just get everything you pray for. God will only grant stuff that won't ultimately hurt you.

Any area of the Bible that discusses fear as a means of deterrent, is a modification. From what I understand of God, or love consciousness, there would never need any sort of fear as means of control. The above human manipulation part, again, I believe is the work of the “gods” manipulation.

So some parts of the Bible are fake and the way we tell the difference is that it violates out 'feel-good' desires?

The Bible speaks again and again of fear as a positive force. It definitely has an action of dissuading us from doing stuff that is stupid and dangerous. That is a positive outcome of a negative emotion.

Point 4: Atheism is a lower consciousness perspective in my opinion.

Being conscious means knowing that you exist. Being self-aware. I don't think you are using the word correctly.

Atheists are no more or less self aware than others.

Perhaps what you meant to say was that atheism is a more base and lower ethical, moral or philosophical mindset?

. Remember your beliefs and thoughts create your own reality (IMO).

It is trivial to demonstrate that they have negligible effect upon physical reality. Nor is there any explanation of how wanting something could manipulate the realities of things we can barely conceive of much less manipulate without powerful tools.

If you believe in no higher power or intelligent field of existence, well then, it won’t be present for you, based on what I understand. I believe most of the worlds religions were based off of and modified by the gods (note lowercase) in order to direct our consciousness at them instead of source. Why? It makes the gods more powerful. I believe Jesus or Yeshua was a high level ascended group consciousness and many on this planet are directly affiliated with that consciousness. There are many other advanced high higher density consciousness beings as well that others could be affiliated with. If you think of the Go consciousness has kind of a hierarchical chain with the prime created at the top, but then has many levels through all densities, where we as humans in this reality are relatively low on the ladder, it with the potential to become quite advanced through the universal progression.

Jesus was God incarnate, offering, by His death, a way to be unencumbered by our sins and to therefore advance spiritually and morally.

It doesn't require us to be 'dense',

... but to be truly repentant. To be truly wanting to change for the better. Which, with God's assistance, is now something do-able.

Maybe Hollywood has the insider scoop when they made the movie, “Paycheck”, starring Ben Affleck who builds a machine which can see into the future. en.m.wikipedia.org...(film)

a reply to: SeventhChapter

With all due respect. Listen to the video again

I listened extremely careful and read the transcripts as they came up.

Regardless if it's true or not:

- He says two chess players, BOTH know the outcome.
- WE do NOT know the outcome, WE do NOT have access to looking glass (if it exists)
Therefore, by using simple deducting logic WE can NOT be one of the chess player.

-He says there is nothing WE can do to change the outcome.
Therefore, WE can NOT be one of the chess players. Why? Because if we can do nothing, that would mean the chess game stalls if we were one of the chess player.

Get it now?

I am saying BS, I am saying "the good will win" is BS and I could not come up with a better tactic to make people just let it happen.

a reply to: chr0naut

Everything other than God is God's creation. That doesn't mean that the creation is God. If someone builds a garage, the garage does not become a conscious being like they are, it's a garage.

I disagree. I know it’s unorthodox, however consciousness could absolutely reside in everything, even the garage. I have a few books that really break this down from a scientific and philosophical perspective. I’ll add more tomorrow.

The Bible does not mention frequency, or resonance, or consciousness. In relation to spiritual aspects, those things are all Eastern attempts at syncretism between Eastern religions and the Christian faith. There were pagan and Eastern concepts around, especially later, during Jesus' life on Earth and in the early church, but the Bible is quite clear in its opposition to those things.

There is some great research regarding Bible frequencies- DNA repair, healing etc. Again, it is my view that the Bible was manipulated. Sections were deleted, and or modified to prevent us from learning who we really are.

Does that excuse crimes of passion? Motivated by misplaced feelings, and motivation of love? Some of the most evil people of all time have tried to excuse their evil actions by saying that they did what they did out of love. The Bible also reveals that God is just. A just God could not excuse someone who does evil acts. That would be unfair for those who have striven all their lives to do what is right. Clearly the type of love described in the Bible, and that is attributed to God, is the love of a parent for their child. A loving parent wouldn't just let their child run wild, and potentially be self-destructive. So there is a modicum of discipline encompassed by that love, and also by the dictates of justice.

Again this interpretation does not align with what I believe to be the truth. It’s entirely plausible these sections were modified by the false “gods”, beings who wanted us to direct our energy towards them instead of God. Like I said a good indication of this modification is any language that says we are born of sin, that if we do not follow these teachings we will go to hell, that humanity is weak and needs to be saved or coddled. With the evidence of ET visitors on this planet and the agendas they have for humanity, you simply cannot discount manipulation of the Bible the same way history books are sometimes rewritten by the victors. Don’t get me wrong, the teaches of Yeshua and many other religions really do a great job of showing humanity how to expand our consciousness, but I believe very key pieces of information were deleted and/or modified. To truly understand this all and reconnect the dots, you have to add in frequency because we resonate a specific vibration when we are in certain emotional states. This is key to figuring who and what we are.

So some parts of the Bible are fake and the way we tell the difference is that it violates out 'feel-good' desires? The Bible speaks again and again of fear as a positive force. It definitely has an action of dissuading us from doing stuff that is stupid and dangerous. That is a positive outcome of a negative emotion.

I’m not quite sure what you mean by this. I believe the true God is love. Pure unconditional love. Love is a frequency. Fear is the opposite to love.
truthlightandlove.wordpress.com...
There are parts of the Bible that use fear as a means of control. That is not what I believe the true God to be. Any guidance that uses fear to control in any way is a “god”, not God. There is an incredible complexity that you’re completely omitting. Dimensions, densities, energy, frequency, and vibration. Definitely look into spiritual science if you want to open another door of awareness. Again I believe the Bible is good, however is only part of the equation and you will not get to truth without factoring what was omitted and kept secret from humanity.

Being conscious means knowing that you exist. Being self-aware. I don't think you are using the word correctly. Atheists are no more or less self aware than others. Perhaps what you meant to say was that atheism is a more base and lower ethical, moral or philosophical mindset?

Yes, but you need to look at it differently from what they taught you in college. There are levels of consciousness. Consciousness is awareness. The greater awareness something has, the greater the consciousness . Again in order to understand this, you need to study, dimensions, density, and the associated consciousness for each.

Jesus was God incarnate, offering, by His death, a way to be unencumbered by our sins and to therefore advance spiritually and morally. It doesn't require us to be 'dense', ... but to be truly repentant. To be truly wanting to change for the better. Which, with God's assistance, is now something do-able.

I do not believe this to be correct. I believe this to be manipulated. What you describe is a ritual blood sacrifice. If you research why dark players on this planet perform ritual sacrifice you will understand and see how some of the language in the Bible could be deliberate manipulation to steer us away from what could really connect us with source/God/creator. The true God is within. Anything that depicts the god as a being from without, is manipulation in my opinion.

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: SeventhChapter

With all due respect. Listen to the video again

I listened extremely careful and read the transcripts as they came up.

Regardless if it's true or not:

- He says two chess players, BOTH know the outcome.
- WE do NOT know the outcome, WE do NOT have access to looking glass (if it exists)
Therefore, by using simple deducting logic WE can NOT be one of the chess player.

-He says there is nothing WE can do to change the outcome.
Therefore, WE can NOT be one of the chess players. Why? Because if we can do nothing, that would mean the chess game stalls if we were one of the chess player.

Get it now?

I am saying BS, I am saying "the good will win" is BS and I could not come up with a better tactic to make people just let it happen.

I understand what you’re saying, I just think it’s much more complex than we understand. The looking glass (if it exists) is only a tool to look into potential timelines as I understand. I’ve always believed that higher beings and guide humanity, however they can not intervene in our own free will, and to your point, we need to do the work. No one is going to do the work for us. There is a chess game going on, ET week dark and light, and the prize is the mind of humanity.

originally posted by: SeventhChapter
and to your point, we need to do the work. No one is going to do the work for us.

That's what I am saying too, but the guy in the video says:

- Just lay back and trust what I say, you can not change the outcome, everything will be fine, good will win...

That's why I wrote, I could not come up with more hideous tactic to make people believe everything will be fine. Everything will rule out eventually for the good.

a reply to: chr0naut
Even in your understanding, you seem to separate the creation from the Creator. I understand how you you may come up with that idea, as when people refer to Jesus Christ, they often call him God, and yet the Sanhedrin condemned Jesus for same, because he challenged their authority. Jesus himself seems to understand that God is the Father and he is the Son, so for all intents and purposes, we are mini replicas of our Creator, and yet we have individuality. This is what is referred to as the “I Am Presence” In “Unveiled Mysteries” By Guy Ballard. Some have likened it to bring one drop in the ocean which I think is a very nice way to demonstrate our Oneness with God (the ocean) and yet retaining our individuality ( one drop).
Do you get it yet ?
Now, what did any of this have to do with the quantum machine which can see into the future ? Perhaps the connection came into this thread because inherently, the Mind of God can act like a great computer which computes the outcomes based on our actions ... that is the Mind of God has to recompute our Destiny (achieving Christ consciousness and Unity with Him) by our actions which change the karma good or bad. Very interesting stuff. Yet it is likely that the quantum machine was created by nephilim overlords or people who work for them and they want an outcome which puts them on top and the Creator does not want that because they (overlords) do not represent His Higher Way.
Also, you said that we are like a garage created by God but you says the garage is without consciousness so now you are saying that mankind fii I es not have consciousness... haha that’s a hoot ! Unless you needn’t that when man creates a garage the garage is not endowed with the consciousness of God. God told us that He has written the knowledge of Him in our inward parts. What do you supposed that means?

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain

originally posted by: SeventhChapter
and to your point, we need to do the work. No one is going to do the work for us.

That's what I am saying too, but the guy in the video says:

- Just lay back and trust what I say, you can not change the outcome, everything will be fine, good will win...

That's why I wrote, I could not come up with more hideous tactic to make people believe everything will be fine. Everything will rule out eventually for the good.

You make a very good point. But I took it to mean that these elites cannot outwit the very mind of God. Remember the fallen were in the very heavens with God and they think they can outwit Him. Or they want to anyway.

a reply to: chr0naut

Atheists are no more or less self aware than others.

To a point, yes, because even the atheists were made in the image and likeness of God, even though they may deny His very existence, this denying their own existence.

originally posted by: misterE12
Could all the timelines lead to what occurs in the book of Revelations just throwing that out there

You dont need the book of revelations.. They ask Jesus when is the end of the age and he says..

He replied, “As you enter the city, a man carrying a jar of water will meet you. Follow him to the house that he enters,

and here we are entering the house of the water carrier Aquarius.

The time is now.

Maybe a couple things to consider:

1. No computational system of whatever kind can compute the exact outcome of a sufficiently complex system (it doesn't matter which type of system you are using: conventional, quantum, any kind that is undiscovered yet). Why? Because you can't measure the INPUTS sufficiently exact. This has nothing to do with the computing power. We simply cannot know enough about our environment to predict the outcome. Heck, it is even impossible to solve the three-body system. It is IMPOSSIBLE to measure all the variables for any meaningful system. Even if an algorithm such as "Looking Glass" existed, it is entirely useless because we will never have enough exact input. A fraction of an atom light-years away could completely change the outcome (butterfly effect in complex systems).
   
   
2. Omnipotent entities do not exist; this has been established thousands of years ago. A popular and easy-to-understand argument translates to "Can God create a stone so heavy that he cannot lift it?" Either way, God turns out to be not omnipotent.
   

As such, a project like "Looking Glass" (whatever the details might be) is nonsensical and fraudulent. Maybe it exists, perhaps it gives some outputs ... but all of that is completely irrelevant and has no connection to the world.

Most likely a scam to suck some money or boost someone's ego.

originally posted by: SeventhChapter

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: SeventhChapter

This has been the plot line of a few SciFi drama's. "Devs" comes to mind as one that most closely fits.

Not particularly original.

Interesting. Did you listen to the video? About 2/3 way through this guy talks about us (humanity) creating our own reality. If you can get enough people thinking about something then you essentially can manifest it into existence. Modern science is actively studying this phenomenon now, and one example could be the “observer effect” demonstrated during the CERN experiments. One possibility, is the “dark side” understands this concept very well, and has created technologies like the TV and movies to sort of trick us into manifesting an event into reality.
news.stanford.edu...

One theory: Our soul has been downloaded or incarnated into human vehicles so we can experience this reality. Our consciousness can manipulate the illusion we call reality by interacting at the quantum level. If everything is made up of energy vibration and frequency as Nicola Tesla discovered, then its very likely our consciousness has the power to change that reality with thoughts intent etc...

wow, thats a spin on the Zeno effect. The watched pot never boils. very interesting. Thanks for something to think about.

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: chr0naut
Even in your understanding, you seem to separate the creation from the Creator.

So does the Bible, Judaism, and Christianity.

Humans aren't gods, aren't God, and don't become gods in these religions. Human are are creations, and because they have been given free will, they choose to be sinful, and then there must be a process of repentance and redemption, which is at the core of those religions.

I understand how you you may come up with that idea, as when people refer to Jesus Christ, they often call him God, and yet the Sanhedrin condemned Jesus for same, because he challenged their authority. Jesus himself seems to understand that God is the Father and he is the Son, so for all intents and purposes, we are mini replicas of our Creator, and yet we have individuality.

The Godhead in Christianity, encompasses several individual identities. They have individuality, but are the one God. Applying human distinctions to God is not rational. We must accept that any revelation from God of the nature of God overrides assumptions based upon our musings.

This is what is referred to as the “I Am Presence” In “Unveiled Mysteries” By Guy Ballard. Some have likened it to bring one drop in the ocean which I think is a very nice way to demonstrate our Oneness with God (the ocean) and yet retaining our individuality ( one drop).
Do you get it yet ?

Yes. I understand the concept, but it is invalidated by what is revealed in scripture.

Now, what did any of this have to do with the quantum machine which can see into the future ? Perhaps the connection came into this thread because inherently, the Mind of God can act like a great computer which computes the outcomes based on our actions ... that is the Mind of God has to recompute our Destiny (achieving Christ consciousness and Unity with Him) by our actions which change the karma good or bad.

Kharma and the 'weighing in the balance' concepts of morality are not those revealed in the Bible. In the Bible, one single minor sin has as much consequence as multiple, deeply evil, sins.

Very interesting stuff. Yet it is likely that the quantum machine was created by nephilim overlords or people who work for them and they want an outcome which puts them on top and the Creator does not want that because they (overlords) do not represent His Higher Way.

Such a quantum machine could not possibly work that way. The quantum realm is less deterministic than the macro realms. Such a machine could not be predictive of anything definite.

What is occurring is that someone is once again using the 'sciency' word "quantum" to try and legitimize something that is not possible with any level of science. Marketing and scams do this all the time.

Similarly, "density", "frequency", "vibration", "energy" and other words normally used by scientists and technicians also have definite and fairly mundane meanings. Applying them to topics like spirituality, where we have no measurables, is a further misuse of 'sciency' sounding language to bolster BS, and is an incredibly obvious sign of such.

Also, you said that we are like a garage created by God

I did not say that. Please re-read exactly what I wrote without re-interpretation. I was clearly referring to a man creating a garage, as a way of showing that 'the created' does not become 'the creator'. To assume so is faulty reasoning.

but you says the garage is without consciousness so now you are saying that mankind fii I es not have consciousness...

More faulty reasoning. I said nothing of the sort.

haha that’s a hoot ! Unless you needn’t that when man creates a garage the garage is not endowed with the consciousness of God.

Your language is now not even making sense. Can you rephrase that in a sensible way, please.

God told us that He has written the knowledge of Him in our inward parts. What do you supposed that means?

The actual quote is that God has written knowledge of His Law into our inward parts. (Psalm 40:8, Hebrews 8:10, Proverbs 3:3).

However, the word "all" does not occur, even in your misquote. We have imperfect knowledge.

For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

For now, we see through a glass, darkly; but then, face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 1 Corinthians 13:9-12