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Afghanistan, fear for life and Covid

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posted on Aug, 17 2021 @ 07:35 AM
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originally posted by: CthruU

" In 2010 a US internal department of defence memo labelled Afghanistan the Saudi Arabia of lithium, after American geologists discovered the vast extent of the countries mineral wealth ."

I'm not talking Afghanistan having/ using electric vehicles as you allude to but rather the supply of raw material for trade etc.

Didn't dispute the fact they have lithium, please don't distract now. You changed the goal posts between the responds, because this is what I responded to:



Ever heard of lithium, Afghanistan is /will be more than capable of supporting itself in a electric reliant climate.

Please narrow down what you then mean by more than capable, because I am of the opposite opinion. More than capable because they have one out of thousand raw materials needed for EV? What exactly makes Afghanistan more than capable supportin itself in an electric reliant climate.

It isn't the infrastructure. It isn't the know-how, where's that supposed to come from? So if you say that, because they have vast amounts of Lithium they are more than capable of supporting themselves in "an electric reliant climate", it actually is far from the truth.

It's good speak, but not in alignment with reality.



posted on Aug, 17 2021 @ 07:38 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Answers that generally involve a measure of religious and social brainwashing and control through RussianTroll.

Very few people that ever experience freedom, or at least an approximation of such, choose to return to the box mate.

Why do you think they are all clinging to planes for a start?

We/i may view the world through western rose tinted spectacles RussianTroll.

But they people deserve a chance at something better, and if that's Taliban rule ile be very surprised indeed.
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posted on Aug, 17 2021 @ 07:49 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll
We Russians have always lived together and surrounded by other cultures, religions and civilizations, and have learned to respect each other.


Just don't bring up Chechnya...or have you guys already made peace...haven't been keeping up.




posted on Aug, 17 2021 @ 07:53 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: RussianTroll

Why do you think they are all clinging to planes for a start?


Because they are afraid for their lives. Do you think that government officials and some of the military did not commit war crimes in Afghanistan? Were they bombed civilians, weddings, civilian objects and residential buildings? They also did it and bombed it. It's just that the manipulative media did not bring these cases to you, but presented them as "warriors of light and civilization", such as D'Artanyans. And they committed atrocities no less, and now they are afraid of retribution.

I will tell you more, the Taliban have now announced that they will not take revenge on anyone. But on the ground, in villages and auls, a terrible terror will begin. For many ordinary people, corrupt government officials have killed relatives, raped brides and robbed all of their property. And this is a fact. From all sides, there are just people in Afghanistan, and they are subject to simple human passions.



posted on Aug, 17 2021 @ 07:58 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Why are they afraid for their lives?

Could it be because the Taliban are apt to stone the poor sods to death or worse?

The Taliban claim lots of things RussianTroll.

As to the people of Afghanistan, well they are about as diverse and varied as it gets, i have to wonder how happy some of them will be with there new masters.



posted on Aug, 17 2021 @ 08:00 AM
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originally posted by: keukendeur

originally posted by: RussianTroll
We Russians have always lived together and surrounded by other cultures, religions and civilizations, and have learned to respect each other.


Just don't bring up Chechnya...or have you guys already made peace...haven't been keeping up.



And you just take a trip to Chechnya and ask ordinary people. This is easy to do, in Russia there is complete freedom. Now the Chechens are the staunchest supporters and defenders of Russia, and their leader, Kadyrov, considers Putin to be his father. Arabs and other Islamic foreign radicals were killed, and Chechnya became the most prosperous republic in Russia.

Welcome)))
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posted on Aug, 17 2021 @ 08:03 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: RussianTroll

Why are they afraid for their lives?

Could it be because the Taliban are apt to stone the poor sods to death or worse?

The Taliban claim lots of things RussianTroll.

As to the people of Afghanistan, well they are about as diverse and varied as it gets, i have to wonder how happy some of them will be with there new masters.


Do they need a master? Maybe let them determine their own future?



posted on Aug, 17 2021 @ 08:10 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

So Russia is all peachy dandy?

Mind passing the Novichok?



posted on Aug, 17 2021 @ 08:10 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

I think that's called democracy RussianTroll.

If Carlsberg done Taliban maybe. LoL

Do you really think the Taliban are all going to allow everyone a say as to determining their own future?

You have to admit the freedoms Afghans have won since 2001 are in serious jeopardy.
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posted on Aug, 17 2021 @ 08:11 AM
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originally posted by: keukendeur

originally posted by: RussianTroll

People in Afghanistan are the last to worry about Covid. And why? Because in critical situations, people assess the real threats to their lives, and not largely invented by mainstream propaganda. Reality always puts priorities in their place. And ordinary people do not see the common behind a particular phenomenon.


It would almost seem that you suggest that because people in Afghanistan don't care about the Covid hype, there is no Covid problem.

Afghans continue to contract the virus and die, but the scale of the epidemic is nearly impossible to measure. Afghanistan’s testing capacity is severely limited.



Are you describing the lack of PCR test kits? The ones that can't discern between the Flu and COVID?

Your claim makes perfect sense then. As RT mentioned previously, no wonder there is no COVID mania and panic in Afghanistan.

No MSM propaganda machine.

No COVID coin-flip test kits.



posted on Aug, 17 2021 @ 08:13 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake


You have to admit the freedoms Afghans have won since 2001 are in serious jeopardy.

What freedoms did they win? The country is a worse place than it was before plus all the grieve from twenty years of war. What freedom exactly?



posted on Aug, 17 2021 @ 08:16 AM
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a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened


Yeah my dog has this amazing trick where, if he doesn't look at it, it isn't there.

It's something like that.




posted on Aug, 17 2021 @ 08:20 AM
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originally posted by: keukendeur
a reply to: RussianTroll

So Russia is all peachy dandy?

Mind passing the Novichok?


Russia, my friend, this is not the USSR)))

About "Novichok". Why do you need an absolutely ineffective chemical warfare agent made in the USA and Europe? How many people, according to Western media, highly likely tried to poison them, and everyone is safe and sound))))



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posted on Aug, 17 2021 @ 09:22 AM
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a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

The presidential elections of 2004 spring to mind.

Where about 11 million people registered to vote.

That would be considered to be a modicum of freedom would it not?

Im not suggesting its still not a crap show over there but i dont see the Taliban waving a magic wand and fixing matters, do you?

Should probably add i don't see anyone else fixing matters any time soon.

But the poor sods are not clinging to planes trying to depart the area in spades coz they are board, that's a given.

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posted on Aug, 17 2021 @ 10:08 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake
I didn't write there was nothing done, your post just gave the vibe that the people of Afghanistan gained lot's of freedom because of that intervention, which is in my opinion, not true.



posted on Aug, 17 2021 @ 10:14 AM
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a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

Naw i don't imagine they gained lot's of anything much, i do however think it will be much worse under Taliban rule.

Tell you one thing the Taliban just gained billions of dollars worth of military equipment including helicopters and missiles.

How that was allowed to happen is quite frankly beyond me.



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posted on Aug, 17 2021 @ 10:27 AM
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How? The how is easy, the why is more interesting to me.

The money coming from drugs, weapons and other nefarious lanes of business explored by CIA and other alphabet agencies (non American too) goes to black project budgets, is used for blackmailing and orchestrating governmental throwovers.

And I don't think they do it in the interest of the American people. Well some American people maybe, but certainly not the citizens.



posted on Aug, 17 2021 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

I know that there is no real war on drugs, so theirs is that.

Or if there is its a token affair at best.



posted on Aug, 17 2021 @ 03:01 PM
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a reply to: RussianTroll Thank you for reply! I appreciate it and understand your meaning.

Again welcome back.



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