The Biden Administration Will Recognize the Taliban as Afghanistan's Legitimate Government.

a reply to: themessengernevermatters

'You must be low IQ, because, once again you claim I am defending Joe, which I haven't"


You want to take a test together?

I am perfectly comfortable with my results on the real ones.

And why does that matter?

Just desperation.



YOU may too brainwashed to understand how blaming others for what JOE just did is supporting and defending joe.

But not everyone is so brainwashed.



Joe did this.

All by himself.

And brainwashed democrats are flailing around trying to find any way for what joe just did to not be joe's fault.

It won't work.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
a reply to: themessengernevermatters


Is there any level of stupid you won't stoop to in effort to defend what joe just did?

And is still doing right this minute?



I just want to know how much coffee to make.

This is where the beginning of calling me stupid began. It continued onward. I guess your memory span really is short.

As far as triggering you, I didn't need dummy, you been triggered since my first post.

originally posted by: themessengernevermatters
I feel bad for the people, but the Taliban are and were the legitimate government, before the war.

They took over in 1996, after four years of conflict between multiple factions of Mujahedeen rebel groups, that rose up in the vacuum left from the removal of Soviet Occupation. The reason the Taliban was able to consolidate power and support from the people is, because they promised to return stability and restore lawfulness to the nation. They entered the crime ridden and lawless capital of Kandahar in 1994 and by 1996 that had established order.

As much as the US and the western world believes the majority of the population want western democracy, they really don't and though their leaders may be terrorists and oppressive religious tyrants, that is what they choose for themselves when outside powers are not imposing rigged elections. The reason everyone knows the election is rigged, is because all candidates will be pro US forces and will never be anti US forces. The fast reversion shows that the majority of people were ready for it to come back and weren't really pro democracy.

It's sad news in the world, but it really just reverted back to pre invasion status and since the Chinese are mining the rare earth minerals, I would say just let them deal with it.

www.cfr.org...

This the post that triggered and made you fixate on me like cujo.

All the biden defending is just a delusion you created in your own mind.

originally posted by: themessengernevermatters

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
a reply to: themessengernevermatters


Is there any level of stupid you won't stoop to in effort to defend what joe just did?

And is still doing right this minute?



I just want to know how much coffee to make.

This is where the beginning of calling me stupid began. It continued onward. I guess your memory span really is short.

As far as triggering you, I didn't need dummy, you been triggered since my first post.

Maybe you need grammar lessons?



"You are stupid"

Is how you call someone stupid.

"You are doing something stupid"

Is not.





You should probably not take that IQ test for a while so you can review 3rd grade grammar lessons.

That is how you IMPLY that someone is stupid.




Can you tell which of these I used?

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

originally posted by: themessengernevermatters

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
a reply to: themessengernevermatters


Ah, I may have just found where your misconception is rooted.

Taliban did not avoid fighting because ANA was standing guard.

The only purpose of ANA was to keep taliban from disappearing inside a base or city long enough for air support to arrive and destroy them while still grouped.

ANA were not trained or equipped to do anything else. Not possible with the resources available.

The American troops were not standing beside ANA. It was their job, and they had been doing it well for quite some time. Not nearly as well as American troops would have on their own, but well enough to keep taliban from attacking, or enough to ensure taliban would pay a very heavy price if they did.

Until joe renegged on promised air support.

Then ANA had no hope of success.

And quickly fell apart.

Our troops guarded only the bases where our folks were based, provided training & assistance, while American contractors took care of most maintenance tasks. The most 'exciting' task most American troops saw over the past few years was walking through villages handing out candy to children.

There were very few exceptions to any of this over the past few years.

No that is probably your mistake. If the Taliban started fighting the defense forces and they started crumbling, the us military would have stepped in or had to retreat. That is why the Taliban didn't do anything. The US troops much like Roman legions only had to quash rebellions when the local authorities couldn't hack it. The mere presence of the legions were enough to keep rebels in line and when not the legions would step in and take them out.

What really changed in Afghanistan before the fall, was the removal of the troops and the threat of pissing of the US.

.

Not gonna try arguing with stupid.

Really, i hope you are just messing with me.

That is beyond dumb.

The U.S. doesn't operate that way.

Not since civil war.

Not sure anyone does anymore.

Won't be successful if so.

"Arguing with stupid." Stupid ideas or stupid people? The extra word is grammatically necessary or it's open to interpretation. If I was mistaken in my interpretation, than fine.

At the same time nothing in my opening post in this thread ever defended Biden or the pullout. I was saying that country was still going back to the Taliban eventually. And that really it was the chosen government before we invaded.

It triggered you. I don't know why.

a reply to: themessengernevermatters


Not 'triggered' on anything or anyone.

Am responding to anyone attempting to deflect from, distract from, defend, or support what joe just did.

On every thread.

Nothing more.

Nothing less.



Stop doing those things and I won't feel compelled to respond again.

HINT: nothing that happened in 1996 is relevant to what joe just did.

The distraction effort blew up in your face on that one, eh?

Ended up with pages full of JOE DID THIS ALL BY HIMSELF instead of all your excuses for why he did it, or how it was really the miltary's fault, or his staff's fault, or predecessor's fault, etc.


Democrats elected joe.

Joe made the decisions.

Joe gave the orders.

Joe is responsible.

Democrats are still supporting and defending what joe just did.

Period.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
a reply to: themessengernevermatters


Not 'triggered' on anything or anyone.

Am responding to anyone attempting to deflect from, distract from, defend, or support what joe just did.

On every thread.

Nothing more.

Nothing less.



Stop doing those things and I won't feel compelled to respond again.

HINT: nothing that happened in 1996 is relevant to what joe just did.

The distraction effort blew up in your face on that one, eh?

Ended up with pages full of JOE DID THIS ALL BY HIMSELF instead of all your excuses for why he did it, or how it was really the miltary's fault, or his staff's fault, or predecessor's fault, etc.


Democrats elected joe.

Joe made the decisions.

Joe gave the orders.

Joe is responsible.

Democrats are still supporting and defending what joe just did.

Period.

That is your assumption I never said why he did anything.

a reply to: themessengernevermatters

Nonsense.

You wouldn't even acknowledge that joe did do anything.

You spent 2 days bringing up reasons why he wasn't responsible.

And all the other people who were.

Getting cute in how you do it didn't work.

I also never said the pullout was right, or done right or any of the things you tried to say I was saying. The whole thread I have simply been talking about the greater problem. You could have just glossed over it or even said it wasn't relevant to the discussion.

Instead in the first responding post, you, opened with me defending Biden, called out my forum name and claimed my message and Biden's message were the same. You created it all. In your own head.

originally posted by: themessengernevermatters
I also never said the pullout was right, or done right or any of the things you tried to say I was saying. The whole thread I have simply been talking about the greater problem. You could have just glossed over it or even said it wasn't relevant to the discussion.

Instead in the first responding post, you, opened with me defending Biden, called out my forum name and claimed my message and Biden's message were the same. You created it all. In your own head.

Sure.

Is joe responsible for what he just did?

Is anyone else?

You had me pre judged as pro biden democrat defender from the beginning.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

originally posted by: themessengernevermatters
I also never said the pullout was right, or done right or any of the things you tried to say I was saying. The whole thread I have simply been talking about the greater problem. You could have just glossed over it or even said it wasn't relevant to the discussion.

Instead in the first responding post, you, opened with me defending Biden, called out my forum name and claimed my message and Biden's message were the same. You created it all. In your own head.

Sure.

Is joe responsible for what he just did?

Is anyone else?

I already said he Fed up the pullout a few responses ago. You were triggered and glossed over it to fixate on dummy and keep attacking me.

a reply to: themessengernevermatters


Is joe responsible for getting our allies slaughtered by renegging on promised air support or not?

Is joe responsible for neglecting to evacuate 86,000 Americans or not?

Is joe responsible for giving the taliban 10s of billions worth of modern military equipment or not?



Yes, you tried to weasel out, while also deflecting blame to others.

Or this time generalizing to screwed up pullout, like no big deal.

It didn't work as well as you thought it would.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
a reply to: themessengernevermatters


Is joe responsible for getting our allies slaughtered by renegging on promised air support or not?

Is joe responsible for neglecting to evacuate 86,000 Americans or not?

Is joe responsible for giving the taliban 10s of billions worth of modern military equipment or not?



Yes, you tried to weasel out, while also deflecting blame to others.

Or this time generalizing to screwed up pullout, like no big deal.

It didn't work as well as you thought it would.

No I never did. You misconstrued what I was saying about Afghanistan and it is and always will be a huge problem. The government was never going to survive without continued US support. You even admitted that. You kept saying I was only saying those things, to defend Biden. I never did and never was.

Yes he abandoned, people. Yes he pulled out in the middle of the night. Yes he didn't give them air support. He #ed it up. I never said he didn't . Nor was I defending him. I was talking about the fact that we were never rooting out the Taliban and were never going to keep that created nation afloat.

Even now you will think I am deflecting and defending, because the prejudiced straw man you have created for me.

All I ever said is it wasn't winnable and it's like Vietnam. I never weaseled out of anything, My position has never been to defend Biden.

You are the one who has been saying that the whole time.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
a reply to: themessengernevermatters


Is joe responsible for getting our allies slaughtered by renegging on promised air support or not?

Is joe responsible for neglecting to evacuate 86,000 Americans or not?

Is joe responsible for giving the taliban 10s of billions worth of modern military equipment or not?



Yes, you tried to weasel out, while also deflecting blame to others.

Or this time generalizing to screwed up pullout, like no big deal.

It didn't work as well as you thought it would.

Nope.

Still can't say it.



JOE did this.

By himself.

Either intentionally or through spectacular ineptitude.

With no assistance from anyone else.

And not because it was 'unwinnable'

Nobody said it was.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
a reply to: themessengernevermatters


Is joe responsible for getting our allies slaughtered by renegging on promised air support or not?

Is joe responsible for neglecting to evacuate 86,000 Americans or not?

Is joe responsible for giving the taliban 10s of billions worth of modern military equipment or not?



Yes, you tried to weasel out, while also deflecting blame to others.

Or this time generalizing to screwed up pullout, like no big deal.

It didn't work as well as you thought it would.

Nope.

Still can't say it.



JOE did this.

By himself.

Either intentionally or through spectacular ineptitude.

With no assistance from anyone else.

And not because it was 'unwinnable'

Nobody said it was.

Well I am never going to say he did it by himself, but that is not defending him. The guy has dementia. He is a figure head at best. You would have to get into a time machine and go back to when Biden wasn't suffering late stage dementia to get him on his decisions.

His administration did. And I will say that all day long. Frankly you seem fixated on the figurehead of the current administration, like you were fixated on me. Who is really running it? It isn't him. The far left wing ultra progressives are running the show.

He can't even tell which way to walk, even with his minders and handlers pointing the way. But, he is a Dr. Evil level mastermind that the administration is really listening to. Okay.

He can't even talk without permission and frankly they have cut him off all the time. Some handler shows up yelling and herding him off like a dazed cat.

a reply to: themessengernevermatters


I know.

It's too painful for a brainwashed democrat to admit joe is responsible without also deflecting blame elsewhere.

Or 'it was inevitable'.



Actually sorry you got so much of my attention.

It seems all your friends are still hiding in shame over what joe just did.

They really hung you out to dry.



Imagine how the 86,000 feel.



Do you think any of them would be as polite as I am about your efforts to defend what joe just did?