Bond, Bourne and the Mission Impossible sequels are in my other list for movies I haven't seen yet, along with The Fast and the Furious series. Not
very high in that list though, cause I only like Sean Connery as James Bond. And those movies I have seen so many times on TV already that I also
didn't feel like adding them to my list of movies to watch again, also because it's not really my favorite genre. The other movie series I mentioned
seem a bit similar to me. Especially in terms of the era it's depicting, I prefer Future/Sci-Fi or historical, preferrably with some warfare or
battles. WW I and WW II is OK, but preferrably longer ago, like 19th century warfare or earlier, as in the movies in my upper tiers like Gettysburg
and Glory, or Middle Earth with its Middle Age warfare+fantasy and Braveheart. Kingdom of Heaven and Troy would be higher in my list as well if they
were any better. Naval warfare during the 'cannon' era is also interesting (17th - 19th century). When it comes to organized crime drama though,
20th-21th century is fine (I call this contemporary, not sure if that's the right word, I mean that there's no significant timeframe shift in the
movie compared to when it's coming out, it's neither historical nor futuristic). You might notice that there are very few other types of contemporary
timeframe movies in my upper tiers unless it's a superhero movie with lots of fantasy visuals. A contemporary timeframe movie, when it's not about war
or organized crime, is a bit mundane to me (run of the mill action flick or drawn out drama and boring conversations usually, not enough creative
imagination or wonder; it's too familiar with every day life, when I watch a movie, I want to go to another time and place, I do love historical
realism though). Then for me, it needs some sort of gimmick like Memento and Shutter's Island. The first contemporary movie that doesn't have a
Sci-Fi, fantasy, war or organized crime element to it that shows up in my re-watch list, is Panic Room (for me ghosts and zombies in horror movies are
fantasy). Which has a gimmick, the notion of a Panic Room.
I may have seen Mission Impossible 2 but I never bothered with the new Bond movies. Some time ago when I was going through the list of movies I
haven't seen yet I got to those series with the Bond series at the top, so I started with Casino Royale (the first Bond movie with the actor that is
currently playing Bond, cause I couldn't be bothered with any of the actors playing Bond before that) but I couldn't finish that movie, it's just not
my type of movie. Then I adjusted all those series I mentioned downwards in that list. I've got them here now:
Last Knights (2015)
Flyboys (2006)
Speed Racer (2008)
The Hitman's Bodyguard (2017)
Robin Hood (2018)
The Kid (2019)
The Hunt (2020)
Stowaway (2021)
Sucker Punch 2011
Olympus Has Fallen 2013
London Has Fallen 2016
Brotherhood of the Rose (1989) (I've seen bits and pieces on TV 30 years ago, that's why this one is in both my lists; it's a miniseries not to be
confused with The Name of the Rose with Sean Connery, which I did for 30 years when looking for it, always finding the wrong one. When making these
lists I finally found both on IMDB)
Mystery Men (1999)
Arn: The Knight Templar 2007 series
Lines of Wellington (2012)
Field of Lost Shoes 2015
The Birth of a Nation 2016
ARQ (2016)
Marrowbone (2017)
Vivarium (2019)
In the Heart of the Sea (2015)
The Survivalist (2015)
Rise of the Guardians 2012
Megamind
Pompeii (2014)
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
Treasure Planet 2002
Stealth 2005
The Aeronauts (2019)
Night at the Museum series
The Librarian series
Monsters, Inc. 2001 Monsters University 2013
Starship Troopers series
The Other Guys 2010
Rush Hour 3 ; Rush hour series
Bad Boys For Life
Tropic Thunder 2008
Mission to Mars 2000
Sunshine (2007)
Crimson Tide (1995)
K-19: The Widowmaker 2002
Cinderella Man 2005
The Longest Yard (2005)
Wanted (2008)
The Meg
Geostorm 2017
Bright 2017
Hotel Artemis 2018
It Chapter Two (2019)
Bloodshot (2020)
Artemis Fowl 2020
Mars needs moms
The 5th Wave 2016
The Dark Tower (2017)
Tomb Raider 2018
The Insider 1999
Poseidon 2006
The Kingdom 2007
The Brave One (2007)
Salt 2010
Non-Stop (2014)
13 Hours (2016)
American Renegades (2017) Mission Impossible series
Bourne series
James Bond series
Fast and the Furious series
The Divergent series
Jumanji series (seen only the first one)
Tears of the Sun (2003)
Elizabeth: The Golden Age (2007)
City of Ember (2008)
Limitless (2011)
John Wick 2014 series
The Equalizer 2014 series
Eye in the Sky 2015
Inferno (2016)
etc.
I've got the old Bourne movie in my list of movies to re-watch.
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...
American Gangster 2007
Lawless (2012)
Gangster Squad (2013) Black Mass (2015)
Legend (I) (2015)
Straight Outta Compton (2015)
Jupiter Ascending 2015 Pixels 2015
The Irishman 2019
...
I just finished watching Black Mass and I'm halfway through Legend. But I'm adjusting Legend downwards considerably cause I'm already getting bored
with the relationship and emotional drama subplot (also not easily skippable cause occasionally the girlfriend says something important concerning the
organized crime element of the movie). They need to make up their mind whether they want to make it an organized crime movie or an emotional drama,
and which market to target, men or women. Too much trying to appease the broadest market possible. Or they need to keep business and pleasure better
separated, so to speak, so you can more easily skip it if you want.
While I was at it, I adjusted Straight Outta Compton a bit downwards as well (not as much as Legend), cause it was only up there because it was
approx. the same genre. But these 2 are not as good as the 4 movies above, Black Mass barely makes the cut if you compare it with American Gangster,
which I like best. But I'm keeping Black Mass there, it's alright. The quality there goes progressively down anyway with Lawless being a little less
entertaining than American Gangster and Gangster Squad less entertaining than Lawless (which had a bigger timeframe shift, depicting an older era, I
like that, see previous comment).
Now I have to decide how long I wanna sit through Legend so I can get to Pixels. Decisions, decisions...
The rating on IMDB is as follows:
American Gangster: 7.8
Lawless: 7.3
Gangster Squad: 6.7
Black Mass: 6.9
Legend: 6.9 (and that's where the rating goes wrong for me and isn't very informative anymore)
Straight Outta Compton: 7.8 (the Black Panther phenomena? That movie is rated way too high as well, before Black Widow, it was my least favorite
Marvel movie*)
The Irishman: 7.8
*:
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I also often got Brotherhood of the Rose (1989) confused with the old Bourne Identity movie, they're quite similar. Making it that much harder to find
Brotherhood of the Rose (often thinking I had found it in the form of The Bourne Identity (1988), also a miniseries). The biggest problem though, was
that I added "the" in front of Brotherhood of the Rose in the IMDB searchbox. I just realized cause I just did it again and couldn't find it again
until I actually hit enter for the search (I'm used to picking from the autofill, or whatever it's called in English, the automatic selection you get
in the drop-down menu).
If I only had used google once, guess I wasn't that determined to find it. I just sort of ran into it this time. Whereas previously, I always ran into
The Name of the Rose first (probably when browsing movies with lots of votes. Brotherhood of the Rose only has 804 votes, so it doesn't show up the
way I sort things on IMDB).
Now I'm realizing, with such few votes, I probably can't find an online version, another potential reason why I may have found the correct name in the
past 30 years before, but still couldn't watch it. It therefore remaining on my to-do list. Or I guess I can say to-watch list now, since I actually
have a literal one now.
Oh, and I think the term for these spy movies is indeed contemporary realism (even though by now some may argue that the Cold War spy movies are
historical realism, for me the timeframe shift is not significant enough for that). When talking about historical realism, I'd really like some high
budget movies addressing the pike-and-shot era and warfare (late 15th - early 18th century),
preferrably in the style of Gettysburg 1993, since it's already unique in its style as explained in the OP. We also could use more Master and
Commander: The Far Side of the World style historical realism, but this time with pirates or better yet, larger fleets and historical engagements (but
not low budget TV movies). Cause there isn't all that much happening in that movie and too much distracting stuff about studying animals on an island
(which I guess was intended to remind one of Darwin's voyage). Still a fun movie though, and not that many of that naval era with that kind of budget.
Pirates of the Caribbean is too unrealistic and too much fantasy for my taste (even though it's higher in my re-watch list because there are more of
them = more entertainment value ; and I do like the adventurous 'quest' element in them).
The Hundred Years' War (1337–1453) is also an interesting era to explore for high budget movies. Braveheart is lacking the Gettysburg 1993 style and
emphasis on battle tactics, strategy and pre-planning and maneuvering into position. And there are probably close to an hour of romantic or emotional
drama subplots going on in Braveheart. None of that in Gettysburg 1993.
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I am not aware of an alternative ending.
Wasn't the ending at the beginning? lol.
Well, the big revelation was near the ending of the movie (with Teddy telling Leonard that he was Sammy, but like I said, can't remember if he spelled
it out like that or the details of what he exactly said that gave me that impression).
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I hadn't gotten to looking at any movie from 2021 below page 2 when sorting on number of votes, all releases, on IMDB. Nr. 100 at the end of page 2
has 19728 votes. The Green Knight has 13K votes, so it didn't show up for me yet. I've added it now to my watchlist, although it looks a bit cheap.
Like a Netflix assembly line product (or other internet streaming production). It reminds me of The Witcher (Netflix). And I saw only 1 actor I'm
familiar with (because I just saw Black Mass, which he was in). edit: Oh wait, I see Sean Harris is in there as King, I know him from Prometheus
(Alien series).
The Salton Sea is contempary realism, not really my style. Also low budget for 2002. And no particularly insteresting gimmick, unless you want to
count drug use, which I don't. Organized crime movies require some mobsters or reference to the mafia (or other well known organization) to really
interest me.
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What can I say, I've never seen it. So it won't show up in my list of movies that I've seen and want to watch again (at least for a 2nd time, most of
the movies after 2000 in the top of my list are movies I've only seen once, that's why they're higher than older movies that may be better, but I've
already seen many times; for example Back to the Future or Indiana Jones; when I was explaining tier 11 and the Tarantino and Stephen King movies in
there I talked about this peculiarity in my list that makes it more of a binge watchlist than a list of 'most favorite to least favorite').
That being said, it's also not in my list of movies that I haven't seen and still want to give a try. Because I didn't see it as a kid, it has no
nostalgic value to me. And it's still a movie for kids, I think I've outgrown it (I might have enjoyed it as a kid but it's too late for that now).
When it comes to kids movies, with a similar cast and similarly no Sci-Fi or fantasy, I prefer Stand by Me (1986), which is in my re-watch
list. When it comes to old Spielberg movies (the Goonies story was by Spielberg), I think they're a little overrated (or let's say, I enjoy them less
than others apparently). I also don't have ET in any of my lists, and that's sort of Sci-Fi, my genre (but completely on earth, the reason I don't
like it all that much; it's also way too mushy for my taste). I'm not sure if I actually have seen ET from beginning until the end, although I'm
familiar with many of its iconic scenes. Goonies I'm more unfamiliar with (other than the name and trailer).
Goonies is also not Sci-Fi, fantasy, history/war, organized crime or a western, my favorite genres. I did have a look at the trailer to see if I
wanted to watch it, but I'm not that interested (in family movies with no fantasy or Sci-Fi angle). It did make me look at Speilberg's page on IMDB,
noticing that I had forgotten to add Gremlins 1984 to my list. Which has now been done (somewhere at the bottem, last chronological tier that starts
with the Dirty Harry 1971 series, just after Time Bandits where I still had a gap from 1981 to 1986 The Name of the Rose; I like filling in the gaps
in chronological order. It allows me to put the most recent movies that I've seen most recently at the ends of every tier).
My list is also not quite complete yet. But I can say I've covered every movie with a higher budget than 68M, if a movie with a higher budget is not
in either of my lists (re-watch and 'still to watch'), I didn't want to add it. That's looking at this list (I'm up to movie 800, which has 68M
budget):
Although, looking at the next page (801-900), I think I already was up to movie 900, so then 68M becomes 60M. Although sometimes I look at a page
again and adjust my criteria to add more movies than I did the first time. As explained before, I also look at otherwise ordered lists (number of
votes, all releases for a given timeperiod usually) on IMDB to add movies. Sometimes a specific genre, such as Sci-Fi or Westerns (usually to fill in
some time gaps again, when I have a bunch of Westerns for example but there's a timegap in between them for another Western, that's how I found
Appaloosa, looking for something to fill in between 3:10 to Yuma 2007 and True Grit 2010, which I used to have next to eachother followed by Cowboys
and Aliens 2011, Django Unchained 2012, the Lone Ranger 2013 and The Hateful Eight 2015; then Appaloosa wasn't good enough for that, so I re-arranged
everything cause 3:10 to Yuma and The Hateful Eight was better than True Grit and Django Unchained anyway, so my gap is now bigger, see
OP).
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Death Race (2008)
Dark House (2009)
Doom 2005
Lord of War 2005
Blood Diamond 2006
Inside Man (2006)
Superman Returns 2006
Ghost Rider 2007 series
The Day the Earth Stood Still (2008)
The Red Baron 2008
Inglourious Basterds 2009
Shutter Island 2010
The Book of Eli 2010
The Darkest Hour (2011)
Now You See Me 2013 series
Escape Plan 2013 series Straight Outta Compton (2015) (remember I mentioned I adjusted this one downwards and why when I was talking about Legend 2015?)
Sicario (2015) ; Sicario: Day of the Soldado (2018)
A Cure for Wellness 2016
Deepwater Horizon 2016
Tier 12
Outland (1981)
Conan 1982 series (Red Sonja)
Erik the Viking (1989)
Fortress 1992 ; Fortress 2 (2000)
Ghost Busters (1984) ; Ghostbusters II (1989)
Batman 1989 series
Robocop series
WarGames 1983
Once Upon a Time in America (1984)
The Last Starfighter (1984)
Battle Beyond the Stars (1980)
The Last Unicorn 1982
The Black Cauldron (1985)
The Transformers: The Movie 1986
King Solomon's Mines (1985) ; Allan Quatermain and the Lost City of Gold (1986) ; High Adventure (2001)
Accidental Hero 1992
Last Action Hero 1993
Natural Born Killers (1994)
Casino (1995)
Last Man Standing 1996
12 Monkeys 1995
Con Air 1997
Air Force One 1997
L.A. Confidential (1997)
Enemy of the State 1998
Deep Rising (1998)
The Negotiator (1998)
Fight Club (1999)
The Ninth Gate (1999)
Life (1999)
The Million Dollar Hotel (2000)
Shaft (2000) ; Shaft (2019)
Training Day (2001)
The Last Castle 2001
Enemy at the Gates 2001
Phone Booth 2002
28 Days Later... (2002) ; 28 Weeks Later (2007)
Dawn of the Dead 2004 ; Land of the Dead 2005 series
Signs (2002)
Hart's War 2002
Rollerball 2002
Paycheck 2003
Dreamcatcher 2003
The War of the Worlds (1953) ; War of the Worlds (2005)
The Village (2004)
Constantine (2005)
Repo Men (2010)
The Sorcerer's Apprentice (2010)
Journey to the Center of the Earth (2008) ; Journey 2: The Mysterious Island (2012)
Dredd (2012)
Total Recall 2012
Non-Stop (2014) Legend (I) (2015) (different than in the OP)
Overlord (2018)
Tier 13
Ransom 1996
Die Hard series
The Hunt for Red October (1990) ; Patriot Games (1992) ; Clear and Present Danger (1994) (I've seen these so many times that they don't need to be
too high in my re-watch list)
The Man Who Would Be King 1975
Lawrence of Arabia 1962
Zulu 1964 ; Zulu Dawn (1979) ; Shaka Zulu (1986)
Waterloo 1970
Cromwell 1970
Custer of the West (1967)
The Four Feathers (2002)
Collateral (2004)
No Country for Old Men (2007)
Watchmen 2009
Kick-Ass (2010) series
Sinister (2012) series
R.I.P.D. 2013
Exodus: Gods and Kings 2014
Snowpiercer (2014 or 2013)
The Monuments Men 2014
RED 2010 RED 2 2013
Rampage 2018
A Quiet Place (2018) series
The King (2019)
Joker 2019
Alita: Battle Angel (2019)
Space Sweepers (2021)
Outside the Wire (2021)
Tier 14
The Untouchables (1987)
Predator 1987 series up to AVP
JFK 1991
Johnny Mnemonic (1995)
Battlefield Earth (2000)
Starcrash 1978
Mad Max 1979 series
Dragonslayer 1981
Masters of the Universe 1987
Cyborg (1989)
The Lawnmower Man (1992)
Virtuosity (1995)
Broken Arrow 1996
The Juror 1996
Runaway Jury 2003
Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)
Lucky Number Slevin (2006)
The Thing 1982
Videodrome (1983)
They Live 1988
Timescape 1991
The Fugitive (1993) series
In the Mouth of Madness 1994
Murder in the First 1995
Scream (1996) series ; Scary movie series
Jackie Brown (1997)
Cop Land (1997)
The Game (1997)
The Jackal (1997)
Conspiracy Theory (1997)
Titan A.E. (2000)
Ghosts of Mars (2001)
The Time Machine (1960) ; The Time Machine (2002)
Red Planet (2000)
American Psycho (2000)
Impostor (2001)
Blow (2001)
Identity (2003)
National Treasure (2004) series
Hostage 2005
1408 (2007)
Tier 15
The Dark Crystal (1982)
Dune (1984)
Legend 1985
Stand by Me 1986
The Princess Bride (1987)
Empire of the Sun 1987
Born on the Fourth of July (1989)
It (1990)
King of New York 1990
New Jack City (1991)
Billy Bathgate 1991
The Silence of the Lambs (1991) series
Far and Away 1992
Under Siege 1992 series
Speed (1994) series
The Shawshank Redemption (1994)
Forrest Gump (1994)
Street Fighter (1994)
Mortal Kombat (1995) ; Mortal Kombat: Annihilation
The Usual Suspects (1995) (another one of those instances where this movie I've seen a gazillion times, whereas the 3 movies above I've only seen
once, very long ago, otherwise, they'd never be above this one if this were a 'most favorite to least favorite' list)
Seven (1995)
Amistad 1997
The Truman Show (1998)
The Green Mile (1999)
The Adventures of Pluto Nash 2002
Rescue Dawn (2006)
Law Abiding Citizen (2009)
Inception 2010
Out of the Furnace (2013)
12 Years a Slave (2013)
Lone Survivor (2013)
Nightcrawler (2014)
Tomorrowland (Project T) 2015
Hacksaw Ridge (2016)
Ghost in the Shell 2017
Tier 16 starts with:
A Fistfull of Dollars (1964) ; For a Few Dollars More (1965) ; The Good, the Bad and the Ugly 1966
Which I already had in another comment (showing how it continues from there ending with Rambo, comment on page 1). I continued that list starting with
Rambo and ending with The Sixth Sense (1999) on page 2. Which I then continued further in another comment on page 2 up to The Name of the Rose 1986,
continuing from around there I have (I added a few in front):
Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978) Das Boot 1981 (added)
Time Bandits (1981) Gremlins 1984 series
The Name of the Rose 1986
Bloodsport 1988
Best of the Best 1989 series
Kickboxer 1989
Death Warrant 1990
Homeward Bound: The Incredible Journey 1993 series
Robin Hood: Men in Tights 1993
True Lies 1994
Hackers (1995)
Eraser 1996
Kingpin (1996)
Volcano 1997
Dante’s Peak 1997
The Saint 1997
End of Days 1999
Liar Liar 1997
Dumb and Dumber (1994) ; Dumb and Dumber To 2014
Ace Ventura: Pet Detective (1994) series
Money Train 1995
The Cable Guy 1996
Snake Eyes 1998
Hard Rain 1998
Entrapment 1999
Blackadder Back & Forth 1999
Shanghai Noon 2000
Gone in 60 Seconds 2000
Unbreakable 2000 series
Dungeons & Dragons 2000
Spy Game 2001
Shrek 2001 series
Swordfish 2001
Bad Company 2002
Finding Nemo 2003 series
Next 2007
Body of Lies 2008
The Spiderwick Chronicles 2008
Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter (2012)
Noah 2014
Unhinged (2020)
Willy's Wonderland (2021)
Chaos Walking (2021)
And that's the end of my list. For now... (the last 2 I recently saw for the first time from my other list of movies still to watch, now that I have 2
lists, once I've seen a movie, I try to sort it into the other re-watch list, if the movie is worth it).
My superhero name is List-Man.
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Glad to see some of my favs that most other people don't like (Fifth Element, Riddick). "Leeloo Dallas, multi-pass"
V for Vendetta. More relevant now than ever.
Regarding V for Vendetta, I'm going to have to agree with some of the reviews I read on IMDB, like these (I prefer Equilibrium with Christian
Bale):
1/10
Badly made and offensive to boot
Leofwine_draca 27 November 2016
Words alone cannot convey how utterly loathsome I found this movie to be. I'd heard all the hype beforehand – how it was the 'next big thing', how
it's even garnered a place in the Internet Movie Database's Top 250 films of all time (above Hitchcock and Scorsese, no less). I think it's fair to
say that I was expecting a decent film when I finally sat down to watch it one evening. What a let down. V FOR VENDETTA is nothing more than a
liberal's idle fantasy writ large on screen.
From the word go this is a monstrous mess. We're thrown into yet another Big Brother-controlled futuristic society (yawn) where individuality is
condemned and the sinister government watches our every move. Our heroine is supposedly a tough, streetwise Londoner, and somebody decided to cast
butter-wouldn't-melt Natalie Portman in the role. Oh my god! Not only does her English accent sound stupid – not fitting the character at all –
but her acting is unbelievably poor, and frequently laughable in places. Not that she's given much acting to do. This is a film written by a GCSE
English student who thinks sub-Shakespeare standard dialogue is the height of literary brilliance. Can you say PRETENTIOUS? The second 'V' arrived and
began spouting some absolutely inane gibberish I knew this was going to be bad, but I had little idea of just how bad it was going to turn out.
It's an offensive, violent mess, in which the sprawling action scenes are choreographed to uninteresting boredom. The film toys with Nazi symbolism
throughout, to the extent that we see concentration camps with inmates being buried in mass graves. Wow, taking real-life history and using it to add
controversy to your money-making film? That's pretty low – and far more objectionable than the many low budget exploitation horrors I usually watch.
And, sigh, it turns out that Christians are bad as usual. Why not pick another religion? Oh, I know, there would be an outcry and a fuss, that's
why.
At least Hugo Weaving gets to hide behind a mask to spare his blushes for the film's duration. Not so Stephen Fry, who looks distinctly embarrassed to
appear in this mess, or a slumming John Hurt. Worst of all is Stephen Rea, who has lots of scenes as the detective investigating 'V'. He's saddled
with one of the most boring characters in film history, and is given WAY too much screen time. No wonder he looks like he's asleep for most of the
time. I'm sorry, and I hate to say it, but this film's absolute junk.
1/10
Terrible
Han-10 17 March 2006
This film is easily one of the worst I've ever had the misfortune of sitting through. Loud and overbearing, lacking in any subtly or nuance,
heavy-handed message, repetitious and drawn-out. At so many points in the movie, I thought to myself, "Ok, I get it already, please move along." It
got to a point where if it cut back to John Hurt barking at his subordinates from his giant video monitor one more time, I'd be heading for the
exits.
In almost all cases, I can understand why critics and/or the public enjoy a film that I dislike, but this case baffles me. I can only imagine that
with such a large number of people currently in disagreement with the decisions/actions of the US government and others, a story of rebellion satiates
their state of unrest.
However, I fail to see the entertainment value of watching a guy who reminds me of one of the puppets from Mr. Roger's Land of Make-Believe go from
The Phantom of the Opera to Betty Crocker to The Matrix's Neo, all the while prattling on using alliteration and wordplay meant to be clever and
thought-provoking, but it's just tedious nonsense.
It's a fiasco, folks. If you can't see that, you just want a global leadership shift so badly that it's clouded your vision of what makes a good
film.
As awful as one of the RoboCop sequels. To see others compare it with A Clockwork Orange makes me cry.
Grade: F
1/10
People must be addicted to suck in large doses
micah-trivisonno 31 March 2006
I was extremely excited to see this film. I am a huge fan of the Matrix films as well as a fan of Bound and I can honestly deal with Assassins.
However, this current Wachowski brothers attempt is awful. It showcases the Wachowski's pure inability to write believable characters. The tawdry
language of the film was pitiful. If vocabulary alone=solid characters then this film is rock solid. However, this film seems to use language in way
that says "Hey look at me, I used the thesaurus an awful lot during the making of this film, don't you think I'm special and oh so smart now?"
I keep hearing everybody raving about this film. Like the concepts are so "amazing and mind blowing", truly expressing the social concerns of our
time. This movie is like an 8th grader telling you what politics and society are all about.
The cinematography is totally masturbatory. Atrocious slow-mo, pathetic behind the water- droplet zooms. This movie is a visual jerk off without the
climax. I'm totally fine with indulgent film making, I really enjoy P.T. Anderson a lot, but this, this is terrible!
If you are one of those people that actually feels this film hits a homerun socially it probably proves that you are very imperceptive and you
probably think that Ryan Reynolds is "totally witty".
And to finish off, if you actually enjoy watching an action movie, do not even bother with this tripe, because this film doesn't hit a single sweet
spot in the name of action.
[end of the reviews from IMDB]
Someone else mentioned on IMDB: "This film attempts to be a dramatic, psychological and philosophical film but ends up a cheesy romance with awkward
dialogue that attempts to explain some of the ideas behind the film."
I'm also not that into romance movies or psychological/emotional drama.
I'm watching Equilibrium now, which is what made me remember your comment again (thinking about whether or not I should give V for Vendetta another
try, but now that I remember why I didn't like that one, I'm not gonna bother with it).
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I hear you about the spy movies which is why I like the (Swedish??) version of the Girl With… movies as she is not an untouchable like Bond, but a
victim finding victims… a very modern treatment!!
After having watched a bunch more movies from my list I've done some major re-arranging in my upper tiers. Cause I got to the X-men series again,
watched the 2nd movie this time and still want to watch other movies first before I finish up with X-men (remember, some time ago I mentioned in this
thread I watched the 1st X-men movie and adjusted the series downward in my list, now I adjusted it even further downwards). Then I got to thinking,
'well, I don't really like Pirates of the Caribbean all that much either' (which I had in tier 1, just like X-men originally). I just had it up there
cause the budget for these movies is so high. As mentioned before, I also had "Terminator Salvation / Terminator series" in my tier 1 but it's only
Terminator Salvation with Christian Bale that I like so much (I didn't know where to put the rest of the series in my list). I also wanted to raise
The Hateful Eight and American Gangster, cause these movies are actually quite good for their genre, better than previously reflected in my list. I
also split up the Star Trek series into different eras, the Kirk era, the Picard era, and the modern era. And Green Lantern was a bit too high in my
list (I had only seen that one once quite a while ago, so it was high in my list because I wanted to see it for a 2nd time, but it doesn't need to be
in Tier 1, it's not that good). Now my list looks like this (some notable changes compared to the OP are bolded):
Tier 1
Gettysburg 1993 ; Gods and Generals
Glory 1989
Marvel series
LOTR series ; Middle Earth (i.e. The Hobbit series)
Star Wars series
Alien series Star Trek 2009 series
DC series
The Matrix series
Transformers series Terminator Salvation 2009 (only this one here because it has Christian Bale) Avatar 2009
Tron ; Tron: Legacy 2010 (swapped these 2 around, more chronological now)
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets 2017
Pacific Rim 2013 ; Pacific Rim: Uprising 2018
Monsterverse series
Jurassic series
Predators 2010 series ; maybe AVP
Independence Day 1996 ; Independence Day: Resurgence
Wing Commander 1999
The Fifth Element 1997
Resident Evil series Starship Troopers 1997
Hancock 2008 (bigger gap here now above and below)
John Carter 2012
Battleship 2012
Elysium 2013
Edge of Tomorrow 2014
The Chronicles of Riddick: Pitch Black (2000) ; The Chronicles of Riddick (2004) ; The Chronicles of Riddick: Rule the Dark (2013) The Hateful Eight 2015
Ready Player One 2018
Monster Hunter 2020
Tier 2
Judge Dredd 1995
Contact 1997
Event Horizon (1997)
Galaxy Quest (1999)
Reign of Fire (2002) Serenity (2005) (used to be among the Sci-Fi movies in tier 1, but just to fill the chronological gap between Starship Troopers and John
Carter, which is also why I had Green Lantern there in the OP, now only Hancock is left to fill that gap)
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (2005)
3:10 to Yuma 2007
Cowboys and Aliens 2011
Fury 2014
Dunkirk 2017
1917 2019
Midway 2019 American Gangster 2007
The Irishman 2019 (these 2 I used to have near the other organized crime movies like Lawless, Gangster Squad and Black Mass, but they're better
than the other 3, they belong in a different tier, I've tacked them on at the end cause I didn't want to brake up the 2 westerns and 4 war movies
there at the end, and they're the same genre so I want them next to eachother)
Tier 3
Total Recall (1990)
Demolition Man (1993)
Screamers (1995)
Escape from New York 1981 ; Escape from L.A. (1996)
Escape from Absolom / No Escape 1994
Waterworld 1995
The Postman 1997
Lost In Space 1998
Soldier 1998 Saving Private Ryan 1998
Sphere (1998) (some major changes here, I raised the set of Sci-Fi movies below and lowered Harry Potter and the set of Braveheart-like movies
that went all the way down to Gladiator and The Patriot, which I already like a lot less than Braveheart, but I wanted to keep those together; I also
noticed I didn't need Cloverfield that high, the first one in that series really sucks, I enjoy the movies below more then)
Minority Report 2002
Equilibrium (2002)
I, Robot 2004 The Island 2005 (raised, to fill the gap between the one above and below, which used to have other movies that were more fantasy than Sci-Fi,
or just not that good, to fill that gap)
Pandorum (2009)
District 9 (2009) (watching now) Green Lantern 2011 (found a better spot)
Lawless (2012)
Gangster Squad (2013)
Black Mass (2015)
Pixels 2015
Jupiter Ascending 2015
The Tomorrow War 2021
Tier 4 (here's where most of the movies I removed from the upper tiers ended up; it's still a bit of a mess in terms of genre switches)
Star Trek: Generations (1994) series up to Star Trek 2009
Cube 1997 series
Men in Black series 1997
Pirates of the Caribbean 2003 series
True Grit 2010
Django Unchained 2012
The Lone Ranger 2013
The Magnificent Seven 2016
Braveheart 1995 ; Outlaw King (2018)
Joan of Arc 1999
The 13th Warrior 1999
Gladiator 2000
The Patriot 2000 (from Braveheart to The Patriot is a set of historical movies)
Harry Potter 2001 series Wizarding World ; Fantastic Beasts series
Hellboy 2004 ; Hellboy II: The Golden Army (2008) ; Hellboy (2019)
Fantastic Four 2005 Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer 2007 ; Fantastic Four 2015
Cloverfield series 2008
Outlander 2008
Robin Hood 2010
The Cabin in the Woods (2011)
Conan the Barbarian 2011
Jack the Giant Slayer 2013
Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters 2013
Hercules 2014
Dracula Untold 2014
The Great Wall 2016
King Arthur: Legend of the Sword 2017
Tier 5 (seperated the Westerns from the Sci-Fi, used to have them mixed up because of chronology, it allowed me to fit in the rest of the Star Trek
movies and the Terminator series except for Salvation which is already in Tier 1; as well as emphasize the best Westerns)
Young Guns 1988 series
Tombstone 1993
Wyatt Earp 1994
The Quick and the Dead 1995
Andersonville 1996
Star Trek: The Motion Picture 1979 series up to Star Trek: Generations (1994)
Terminator 1984 series
Tremors (1990) series
Freejack (1992)
Unforgiven (1992)
Posse 1993
Maverick 1994
Rough Riders 1997 X-Men 2000 series (don't forget Deadpool and The New Mutants) (totally out of place, I may adjust this one later, haven't gotten to this part
in my list yet, at least I don't have to worry about watching X-Men for a while; they only used to be so high because of their budget, just like
Pirates of the Caribbean and Harry Potter)
The Crossing 2000
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World 2003
Open Range 2003
The Last Samurai 2003
Timeline 2003
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen 2003
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (2004)
The Alamo 2004
Van Helsing 2004
Troy 2004
Kingdom of Heaven 2005
The Brothers Grimm 2005
The Mist (2007)
Appaloosa (2008)
Valkyrie 2008
Public Enemies 2009
Gamer (2009)
Solomon Kane 2009 Clash of the Titans 2010 ; Wrath of the Titans 2012
Immortals 2011 (these were adjusted downwards quite a bit as well, they were only filling chronological gaps anyway)
Priest 2011
Season of the Witch 2011
Real Steel 2011
Oblivion 2013
World War Z 2013
Oz the Great and Powerful 2013
Seventh Son 2014
Ghostbusters 2016
Warcraft 2016
Assassin’s Creed 2016
The BFG 2016
The Mummy 2017
Mortal Engines 2018
Greyhound (2020)
No significant changes below that (haven't gotten to this part anyway). I didn't bold all the changes, just some notable ones.
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