Experts warned for months: Vaccines could cause more dangerous COVID variants

originally posted by: iwanttobelieve70

originally posted by: MDDoxs

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Stupidsecrets

The Delta strain arose in India in December last year, before the vaccines were rolled out to the public.

And covid started in a wet market and NOT in a lab...who knows the truth. It's whatever one wants to believe at this point. Run for your lives!

So what the heck are you actually saying? That someone made up the time that the delta variant came into being? This is such garbage post it should be flagged as "off-topic".

If you stiff believe what is coming out of the government at this point the best that can be said to describe that person would be a useful idiot.

Lockdowns, restrictions on movements, mandates for vaccines but the southern border is a faucet of non-tested, unvaxxed and mostly maskless being dumped all over the country.

If anyone believes these people at this point they are an imbecile and that's the nicest way I can express it.

a reply to: Stupidsecrets





I have Yet to read or hear in Any Scientific Journal Exactly how the Phantom Delta Variant is Detected . Apparently by astrology . Since the PCR test has been Discredited by the CDC , they don't have a Test for COVID , since that's one of the flaws in the PCR test . It can't Tell the Difference Between one Corona Virus and Another , even if the Proper Number of Cycles , less than 30 , are used . Including those that cause the common cold . TPTB are Lying to Everyone , and their " Agenda " is to get Rid of YOU...........

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Stupidsecrets





I have Yet to read or hear in Any Scientific Journal Exactly how the Phantom Delta Variant is Detected . Apparently by astrology . Since the PCR test has been Discredited by the CDC , they don't have a Test for COVID , since that's one of the flaws in the PCR test . It can't Tell the Difference Between one Corona Virus and Another , even if the Proper Number of Cycles , less than 30 , are used . Including those that cause the common cold . TPTB are Lying to Everyone , and their " Agenda " is to get Rid of YOU...........

Ignoring the TPTB agenda bit, your point on how they know for sure how many Delta cases there are is a good one. How do they know? I hear on the news how the Delta variant is now the dominant strain doing the rounds but how are they deriving this? The test IV seen just tests if you have covid or not, a little line in a box, it certainly doesn't show what variant you have if positive.

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a reply to: Stupidsecrets

The china virus jab was more about profits for the big pharma mobsters than anything else, it was not about saving people at all.

You can not push a jab to prevent a cold virus, is not going to happen, none, never, but one thing is for sure, big pharma mobsters will push for more because the profits are too good to let go.

And people still will get infected and they will die with the darn jab or not.

People have been deceived and they still do not get it.

Also the jab if it had anything at all to help people with the virus, it was not mean to last for long either. Soo that is why they are inventing variants, to keep lying to people.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Stupidsecrets

The Delta strain was first identified in India in December last year, before the vaccines were rolled out to the public. It already existed.

There goes chr0naut again just saying things with out providing proof .

originally posted by: enament
a reply to: chr0naut

Could you please post a source for that information, because I`m pretty sure the Delta variant came from India after their gene therapy campaign.

The variant B.1.617 genome's first occurrence in the global database (GISAID) dates back to 5 Oct 2020. However, the variant was seen in numbers from December last year.

GISAID - Phylodynamics of pandemic coronavirus variant VOC Delta G/478K.V1 (B.1.617.2) first detected in India 3,891 of 3,891 genomes collected between December 2020 and July 2021, last updated 2021-08-03

This variant was given the name "Delta variant" this year by the WHO but it already existed.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Stupidsecrets

The Delta strain was first identified in India in December last year, before the vaccines were rolled out to the public. It already existed.

There goes chr0naut again just saying things with out providing proof .

Proof has been provided above.

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Stupidsecrets

The Delta strain arose in India in December last year, before the vaccines were rolled out to the public.

And covid started in a wet market and NOT in a lab...who knows the truth. It's whatever one wants to believe at this point. Run for your lives!

I don't think anyone still believes it started in the wet market. The wet market was just in the vicinity. There are strong reasons to believe it didn't even come from bats (primarily because bats do not carry the particular virus. They can't even catch it due to different ACE2 receptors).

Agree but look how long it took to snap that narrative. The truth is whatever they want it to be. They wanted it to be the lab now for some reason so now it is the lab...kinda anyway. China is still saying no so in their country it is false.

The lab did work on bats. Even gain of function research does not explain why it can't infect bats.

It is a human virus. That affects humans in large numbers, but no other species in large numbers. If it arose anywhere, it evolved from another virus that also affects humans. Therefore, it most likely arose in humans.

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

If their is to get rid of all of the people or lower population they cant continue to co exist without the ordinary folks.

It really doesn't matter when a variant "began" even if it is years before vaccines. If one of it's characteristics is that it is highly resistant to whatever is the current vaccine, it quickly becomes the dominant type during a pandemic. If the vaccine hadn't been there, other variants would have spread in its place. Technically the vaccine forces the rest out and leaves the field open for the resistant variety even if it has existed for millions of years.

So variants happen more when larger groups have the virus as you have more chances then, so how in the hell does the vaccine cause more variants...lol

originally posted by: Halfswede
It really doesn't matter when a variant "began" even if it is years before vaccines. If one of it's characteristics is that it is highly resistant to whatever is the current vaccine, it quickly becomes the dominant type during a pandemic. If the vaccine hadn't been there, other variants would have spread in its place. Technically the vaccine forces the rest out and leaves the field open for the resistant variety even if it has existed for millions of years.

So we seem to get variants every year with the normal flu, but that doesn't make them nuevo viruses which what was the threat with COVID. So there is less and less threat with them as our immune system at least has a baseline pattern in either the vaccine or other COVID viruses directly.

a reply to: Halfswede

The problem is that covid is from the cold family and we know colds mutates all the time and they infect fast, The pharma was in a hurry to push the darn shot for profits that they did not give two rat asses what they were injecting.

Rather than wait and let the covid do its natural thing, but not this was good for political gain and pharma just love it.

If they had waited maybe the china virus jab would have worked better.

But now we know that it was not even made to last more than 6 month or soo, because colds mutates constantly.

Yes, well, good thing our diligent mass medias censored everything that went against the mandate of fear, anti-scientific group think and vaccinations for all!

Otherwise, those that believed the carefully selected "experts" and the bots in social media placed to influence the group think and actually got the vax would then have worry about themselves or loved ones and might get mad at the authorities who practically shoved it in their arm.

Couldn't have that.

Additionally, if they had focused on the high risk demographics and let the vast majority of the population develop natural broad-variant immunity, there wouldn't have been the environment to have a highly vaccine resistant variety take over as the dominant type. There would likely have been more protection for the high-risk who were already vaccinated as they wouldn't be encountering highly resistant forms at the same density.

Nothing is for sure, but the same phenomenon happened with glyphosate when they went to broad use after developing glyphosate resistant GMOcrops. When it was selectively used, it was effective, but as soon as they started broad use of overspraying the new GMO crops, suddenly there was massive resistance to glyphosate developing in weeds that never had a problem and the selective use began to suffer.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Stupidsecrets

The Delta strain was first identified in India in December last year, before the vaccines were rolled out to the public. It already existed.

There goes chr0naut again just saying things with out providing proof .

Proof has been provided above.

I like you chr0naut , I don't agree with your politics or general view on most things .

But you don't back down and you provide proof for things that can be proved.

the real reason for resurgence is people returning to careless behavior after getting vaccinated, same reason the flu never went away.

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

Delta came from India, where there were no vaccines. If you understood anything you would see that the vaccine prevents variants, it doesn't create them. Now cite the chicken study so we can point out your mistake.

If it's a chicken study I'm guessing it's the one on Marek's that was published some time ago.

I can't remember the specifics but I have a lot of chickens and I know that the mareks vaccine only protects the animal from it not stops the transmission so an unvaccinated chicken out with vaccinated ones will quite easily get mareks and die.


a reply to: OccamsRazor04