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Is it Time to Start Boycotting Businesses that Hire Illegals?

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posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 02:56 PM
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As everyone on ATS knows, the Biden administration has absolutely opened the floodgates of illegal immigration. Around one million illegals have crossed in 6 months. No change is taking place. I see Republicans who say they’re concerned, but then nothing happens.
Average citizens have to get active. Tell any business in your area and nationally that you won’t use their services if they hire illegals. Let them know why they’re experiencing a drop in revenue. I’ll leave it up to you to determine whether or not the employees are illegals.
I realize that many people are reluctant to make a public stand, they feel embarrassed, yada yada, but something has to be done. There has to be a grassroots campaign or nothing will change. I’m tired of this crap. I know you are too. It just requires a little initiative on your part to make change.



posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 03:00 PM
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a reply to: Tim86

Easier said then done. I think you'll find the employment of illegals in menial roles is pervasive in numerous industries and verticals along with the fact that the wages they receive are not at all appealing to someone who is not illegal.



posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 03:08 PM
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a reply to: Tim86

He has?

Biden hasn't repealed title 42. In fact he's shelved plans to repeal it for the time being. Especially now with Covid numbers rising.

www.washingtonpost.com...

And he's gotten tougher and is removing families that couldn't be removed before under existing rules.

www.nytimes.com...



But I do agree with you. If you target the businesses that hire migrants then that will help slow things a little. Of course that will probably result in higher food prices. But yeah.



posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 03:13 PM
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a reply to: grey580

Even if Biden has gotten tougher, we know where his heart lies. He would love to have a more stealthy invasion, so that the Democrats wouldn’t get hurt in elections. Whatever he’s doing, it’s not nearly enough to stem the tide. People have to take a stand.



posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

In certain industries, like construction, especially around border states, it would be harder since illegals work those jobs in really high numbers. But something has to be done. You could boycott at least some businesses if you really wanted to.



posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 03:22 PM
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originally posted by: Tim86
You could boycott at least some businesses if you really wanted to.


Your calculus also needs to factor in whether or not people want to pay more for goods and services that they're used to getting for cheaper.



posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 03:36 PM
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Fine employers to the max and our illegal alien
problems would end and our unemployment numbers will drop.
Plus they will have to pay more to American employees to keep
or hire.
edit on 7ffFriday03202107America/Chicago by nfflhome because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 03:42 PM
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originally posted by: Tim86
As everyone on ATS knows, the Biden administration has absolutely opened the floodgates of illegal immigration. Around one million illegals have crossed in 6 months. No change is taking place. I see Republicans who say they’re concerned, but then nothing happens.
Average citizens have to get active. Tell any business in your area and nationally that you won’t use their services if they hire illegals. Let them know why they’re experiencing a drop in revenue. I’ll leave it up to you to determine whether or not the employees are illegals.
I realize that many people are reluctant to make a public stand, they feel embarrassed, yada yada, but something has to be done. There has to be a grassroots campaign or nothing will change. I’m tired of this crap. I know you are too. It just requires a little initiative on your part to make change.


In terms of fish that need frying on a local or federal scale, not even in my top 10. I need more incentive than what you briefly outlined here.



posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 03:50 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I see this argument a lot. It's based on the assumption that employers are currently paying employees the maximum they could pay without raising the cost of goods. I'm not sure of any company out there that maximizes for employee wages over profits.

The reason why price of goods will go up, is because the people at the very top of those industries, rather than pay employees a reasonable wage or keep prices affordable, would rather keep their millions of dollars and ensure their shareholder's profits are continuously growing. Not just sustained profit, not, a little bit of loss, they must constantly be growing, the profit must always be more than before. At the end of each quarter, those graphs better be up. At the expense of all else.
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posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 03:55 PM
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originally posted by: dug88
I see this argument a lot. It's based on the assumption that employers are currently paying employees the maximum they could pay without raising the cost of goods.


Payroll is usually the single highest fixed charge and one of the easiest to trim. The argument I'm using is common because it's true.



posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 03:55 PM
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Is it Time to Start Boycotting Businesses that Hire Illegals?


Yeah! Stop buying produce and packaged meats! That'll teach 'em!



posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 03:58 PM
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Awesome! Hope you don't like; flowers, leafy veggies, veggies of any kind (fresh, canned, pickled), prepared chicken, pork, beef, sweatshirts, sneakers, fastfood, hell all restaurant food, new home construction, house cleaning, gardeners. If you do like those things and can find them after getting rid of the "illegals", they will cost about 4-10 times their current cost.

Let's take farm workers in the field for an example. On average they get paid about .65 per hour plus how much their crew harvests as a weight combined. Comes out to about 200-400 a week per worker (and yes, taxes are taken out of pay, required by law). I know this because I know some Cali farmers, they all pay roughly the same. No insurance, no lunch, no sick days ( you don't show for any reason, any, and someone else is waiting for your position), usually no bathrooms or bathroom breaks (this is one reason you wash your veggies), you supply your own drinking water, shade if needed.

So the first response is always let AMERICAN'S have those jobs! Really? Do you know ANYONE who would work for that pay under those conditions? Nope! They would want minimum wage, bennies, a place to piss. And who/what will pay for that? YOU! You will pay for it, with $20 head of lettuce, $6 a carrot, and valentine's day? Forget it, dozen roses will run ya $500 at the grocery store.

Dinner at the local sportsman lodge? Bring a credit card. 2/3 of people who work in processing plants are on temp visas, work visas or here illegally. The price to process will skyrocket as the labor force shrinks. 300 for a Wagyu steak? Try 300 for a London Broil. You like bacon? 25 a pound (I would still pay it though lol).

Our country was founded on the backs of immigrant and illegal workers. The price of goods and services is based on the annual fluctuations of immigrant workers. Chances are there are at least 3 things in your life you love or depend on that would not be here or would be unaffordable without those workers. So go ahead! Boycott all you want, but find a nice rock to hide under because you won't be able to by sh!t.



posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 04:18 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Tim86

Easier said then done. I think you'll find the employment of illegals in menial roles is pervasive in numerous industries and verticals along with the fact that the wages they receive are not at all appealing to someone who is not illegal.


Yeah but employers are abusing/taking advantage of illegals for so many years with that excuse. If these companies can't invest in automatization, technology or well paid and QUALIFIED workers is because they are putting in their pockets the extra money product of such abuse. They damage the country too.

I don't see how that could be good under the eyes of God.



posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 04:47 PM
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a reply to: Tim86
You have hit it on the head. This is a great idea.
Sorry, my mistake. This WAS a good idea, say, fifty years ago.
That was when I first heard about the struggle of people wanting to come to the US to find work picking crops and working as laborers in various building and industrial jobs.

''We gotta stop them from coming here'' has been a rallying cry for many political platforms over the decades. Yet the cry to fine and or imprison the owners of those companies that hire people who are here illegally has hardly ever amounted to anything more than a whisper.At least as I can see.

Again, I could be wrong but I have yet to hear a presidential candidate say that he would smash any American business owner who hired people here illegally and then DO IT, Maybe Trump said he would but I don't recall him fining any companies or closing any businesses that hired like that.



posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 05:01 PM
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In reply to: Gothar


Then why do you still call them, illegals? Why not call them elves? You know, like the ones that came to make all the shoemaker's shoes, after midnght?

You simply can't do without them, afterall.



posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 05:01 PM
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a reply to: Tim86

Illegal immigrants can't vote. So how will this help him?



posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 05:03 PM
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a reply to: TzarChasm

How about increased disease, crime, rape, child abduction into the drug&sex trafficking ring. Spread of disease, election fraud. Your children no longer able to have a job and must work 8hrs for a bowl of rice. (Look at China's living situation that forced them to do 2 kids per couple before a decline).

No job or pay increases because they can fire you and get an illegal to work for less, under duress of exportation.

No housing, 12 cars parked outside drug dens.. aka no parking spaces.. increased drugs in the neighborhood, in schools and more.. If your willing to commit to breaking national laws, what other laws are you willing to break.

Most of those that do NOT report to ICE after finding a place to live are those that remain hidden from government for a reason. Those reasons are anything from terroristic activity, murder, rape and trafficking.

How about those reasons.

Look at what happened to other countries when they received millions of immigrations cause they were "scared". All of the small town life turned into down town city life where people are afraid to leave their homes. Because illegals are sleeping on their lawns, breaking into cars and more. Including but not limited to rape and muggings. Murder skyrocketed in those areas.

Food shortages, are spreading in all countries that have illegals coming in waves. Just remember that.


Fraud voting is known; illegals go to "houses" like group homes and are given money for startup on demand of favors. Democrats call heads of these houses and they make the illegals who took keys to a (group-house) vote the way they demand.

Add the fact most jobs use to pay 100% more, any labor intensive job now pays minimum from landscaping(which is a luxury, ment higher pay) to industrial. Because illegals are willing to work 3-5$ an hr. Let me see you take that pay cut. Cause your kids will, creating even more poverty. Increasing population creates poverty.

They also have no vaccination history, this allowed them to reignite measles and mumps in the US after being fully irradiated from the US. A lot of diseases are literally removed from the US due to vaccines which are being brought back to life due to illegal unvaxed immigration. Which is the main push for covid passports. Becoming a self fulfilling prophecy.

So when polio starts to spike here, because India's (still rampant)people flew to Mexico(semi-rampent) spread there then they came here without the health screenings (which is done to LEGAL citizens). Who are you going to blame?

This will also increase STD rates of deadly HIV, etc. Because a lot of Africans are escaping Africa and coming here via the Mexican border. Again, no health screens. So when your kids/grandkids get raped and develope HIV who are you going to blame?

Learn to see the big picture, and you will see why it is bad to have them just walk in. Flesh eating, brain eating bacteria will easily become another pandemic that exists because of unscreened immigration.
edit on 30-7-2021 by BlackArrow because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 05:11 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Tim86

Easier said then done. I think you'll find the employment of illegals in menial roles is pervasive in numerous industries and verticals along with the fact that the wages they receive are not at all appealing to someone who is not illegal.


Yes and also they have pervaded throughout the construction industry. Plumbing, painting, electrical, roofing, tile, concrete, carpentry etc... These jobs used to pay good but now after years of more and more illegals infiltrating many different job sectors and undercutting American citizens, they have effectively lowered the pay scale from a $30/hour job damn near minimum wage.

We need to crack down on companies that hire them and get rid of the illegals that are here.



posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 06:35 PM
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I run crane in the construction industry. I see everything from a birds eye view. Without those workers my industry Formwork would be in shambles. Sure they drive down wages and work for peanuts, but I don’t see Canadians or Amerikans stepping up in the new world too do any jobs.

It honestly feels like we have many generations of lazy sacks of shiat that expect the world for nothing yet bitch and complain that someone else is working a job they will not do.

Sure it’s an issue sure they work cheap, pay taxes maybe. But at least they show up. Something I can’t say for many of the people bitching and complaining.

Without immigrant labour many trades wouldn’t survive because the entitlements so many people feel they deserve. So complain all you want, but until you convince a lazy populace to get off its ass, the works going to be filled by those who do.

My 2 cents from the eye in the sky.

SaneThinking



posted on Jul, 30 2021 @ 06:37 PM
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originally posted by: BlackArrow
a reply to: TzarChasm

How about increased disease, crime, rape, child abduction into the drug&sex trafficking ring. Spread of disease, election fraud. Your children no longer able to have a job and must work 8hrs for a bowl of rice. (Look at China's living situation that forced them to do 2 kids per couple before a decline).

No job or pay increases because they can fire you and get an illegal to work for less, under duress of exportation.

No housing, 12 cars parked outside drug dens.. aka no parking spaces.. increased drugs in the neighborhood, in schools and more.. If your willing to commit to breaking national laws, what other laws are you willing to break.

Most of those that do NOT report to ICE after finding a place to live are those that remain hidden from government for a reason. Those reasons are anything from terroristic activity, murder, rape and trafficking.

How about those reasons.

Look at what happened to other countries when they received millions of immigrations cause they were "scared". All of the small town life turned into down town city life where people are afraid to leave their homes. Because illegals are sleeping on their lawns, breaking into cars and more. Including but not limited to rape and muggings. Murder skyrocketed in those areas.

Food shortages, are spreading in all countries that have illegals coming in waves. Just remember that.


Fraud voting is known; illegals go to "houses" like group homes and are given money for startup on demand of favors. Democrats call heads of these houses and they make the illegals who took keys to a (group-house) vote the way they demand.

Add the fact most jobs use to pay 100% more, any labor intensive job now pays minimum from landscaping(which is a luxury, ment higher pay) to industrial. Because illegals are willing to work 3-5$ an hr. Let me see you take that pay cut. Cause your kids will, creating even more poverty. Increasing population creates poverty.

They also have no vaccination history, this allowed them to reignite measles and mumps in the US after being fully irradiated from the US. A lot of diseases are literally removed from the US due to vaccines which are being brought back to life due to illegal unvaxed immigration. Which is the main push for covid passports. Becoming a self fulfilling prophecy.

So when polio starts to spike here, because India's (still rampant)people flew to Mexico(semi-rampent) spread there then they came here without the health screenings (which is done to LEGAL citizens). Who are you going to blame?

This will also increase STD rates of deadly HIV, etc. Because a lot of Africans are escaping Africa and coming here via the Mexican border. Again, no health screens. So when your kids/grandkids get raped and develope HIV who are you going to blame?

Learn to see the big picture, and you will see why it is bad to have them just walk in. Flesh eating, brain eating bacteria will easily become another pandemic that exists because of unscreened immigration.


Stop watching the news and your phobias will be cured.



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