PHE report, more vaccinated people are dying of COVID than unvaccinated

a reply to: djz3ro
In the post I replied to, you stated:

"No we're not actually. Nobody in my highly vaccinated part of the world, where I know a LOT of people have had any nasty side effects."

You relied to this comment (which you quoted)

"I don't care how they spin it, the vaccinated are dying."

You said "no we are actually not".

Or did you not?

The initial trials went faster due to cooperation between developers and the various regulators.

Long term effects are the reason they are still currently in emergency approval.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: ZED332L
a reply to: oddnutz
I will not take the shot. But it is Deemed " Experimental"

You know this went through the trials that all vaccines go through, only faster because of the money that was pushing it?

How do you speed up long term effects trial?
Time can't be pushed by money.

a reply to: nonspecific
Here is Andrew Read speaking about how vaccines can cause immune escape....

And cause pathogens to get stonger.
The talk is 1 hour 8 mins long.

It would be common courtesy to include some kind of synopsis and timescale when posting a video.


a reply to: Itisnowagain

a reply to: nonspecific
I was just pointing you to a link about what you required.

I realise that. I just meant that even a few words as to what it is and how long would he beneficial to everyone.

It could be 3 hours long and utter nonsense or 3 minutes long and perfectly valid



a reply to: Itisnowagain

It's not.my explanation.

It's the way it is.

You can argue it and bring in lots of points I never made about forced vaccinations and whatever else you choose but there's more than enough data out there from more than enough sources to show what I said is clearly correct.

Your believing this has no effect of its validity.




a reply to: BatSars

originally posted by: oddnutz
a reply to: ScepticScot

explains why there would be more deaths amongst the vacinated

because its working?
I thought the point of the vaccine was to provide the vaccinated immunity?


So the vaccinated are still dying because the vaccinated are still catching and spreading the virus while trying to bring in laws to segregate themselves from the unvaccinated?

Yes, and many conscientious medical professionals and scientists have been predicting exactly this turn of events for many long months, but they have been censored and vilified by media.

Yes. "Same, same" as we used to say around here. A SMALL NUMBER of those in high risk categories are STILL dying, SOMETIMES, whether vaccinated or not. Everyone else with the vax that gets Covid marvels at the awe & wonder of science and says "Wow, thank the heavens, the Vax kept me from the hospital just like "they" said it would!"
Wait, did I miss something here?

a reply to: ScepticScot

This has been posted before and the link even explains why there would be more deaths amongst the vacinated Try reading it's good for you.

You read it and where not capable of sharing the information here or a link. Try understanding what you read so you can make informed comments to help.

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
Remember when the polio vaccine came out and everyone who got it still contracted polio?

Yes

In April 1955 more than 200 000 children in five Western and mid-Western USA states received a polio vaccine in which the process of inactivating the live virus proved to be defective. Within days there were reports of paralysis and within a month the first mass vaccination programme against polio had to be abandoned. Subsequent investigations revealed that the vaccine, manufactured by the California-based family firm of Cutter Laboratories, had caused 40 000 cases of polio, leaving 200 children with varying degrees of paralysis and killing 10.

link

More polio cases now caused by vaccine than by wild virus

LONDON -- Four African countries have reported new cases of polio linked to the oral vaccine, as global health numbers show there are now more children being paralyzed by viruses originating in vaccines than in the wild.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: ZED332L
a reply to: oddnutz
I will not take the shot. But it is Deemed " Experimental"

You know this went through the trials that all vaccines go through, only faster because of the money that was pushing it?

How do you speed up long term effects trial?
Time can't be pushed by money.

mNRA vaccines have been tested for over 2 years now meanwhile the Covid jab has been given to millions since December. Scientists will know the long term effects by now

a reply to: djz3ro

Long term effects take many months or even years.

We are in only month 7 of this experiment.

originally posted by: nonspecific
I realise that. I just meant that even a few words as to what it is and how long would he beneficial to everyone.

It could be 3 hours long and utter nonsense or 3 minutes long and perfectly valid



a reply to: Itisnowagain

I appreciate your request.....so I edited my post.

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: ZED332L
a reply to: oddnutz
I will not take the shot. But it is Deemed " Experimental"

You know this went through the trials that all vaccines go through, only faster because of the money that was pushing it?

How do you speed up long term effects trial?
Time can't be pushed by money.

mNRA vaccines have been tested for over 2 years now meanwhile the Covid jab has been given to millions since December. Scientists will know the long term effects by now

But will they tell a population that they are desperate to vaccinate?


I remember when the US top virologist told the country that masks where unlikely to help prevent transmission of the disease in order to keep mask supplies available for front line workers.

Clearly Scientists have no issues with lying so long as they think they have a "greater good" to pursue.

a reply to: dandandat2

Right you are! Scientists are only human, and so they respond to financial stimulation. Pay the scientist and he will write as told to write, and say what he is paid to say.

The vast majority of covid cases didn’t require hospitalization before the vaccine as well so there really isn’t any real comparison to draw a conclusion from. Hardly anyone got hospitalized and now hardly anyone is getting hospitalized. 🤷‍♂️
a reply to: odd1out

NSW records two COVID-19 deaths and 141 new local cases | Coronavirus | 9 News Australia


Currently in NSW, 141 people are in hospital due to covid. All but one person has been vaccinated. One person has only had one dose, the rest have had 2 doses.

More confusion coming purposely from official reports 🤣

Conflicting information everywhere and as observed in this thread the sociological split aligning with political party.
It's all getting so boring.