"Papiers jetzt bitte?" Approaching not only vax passports, but full digital ID for the British.

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

They will despise the sight of us, because we will be a reminder of what they threw away, and can never regain.

It's really funny the different ways you anti-vaxxers romanticise things to justify your actions to yourselves...

There is nothing romantic in being forced, coerced, or brow beaten, into taking any any medication that you don't want to take. Regardless to your reason.

If I am romanticizing anything, to justify anything to myself, it is to express my concern over why anyone would think this is the right thing to do. And why they can't see what this kind of overhanded approach leads to. Just for the record, I am not an anti-vaxer. I am however, anti the experimental COVID-19 vaccine.

a reply to: djz3ro

It's not even a vaccine.

Can you imagine how miserable the butt-hurt guys life is that he re-joins a website he was kicked off of to troll against the popular opinion about an obvious psyop that a 5 year old would say "wtf"?
Yikes
I'd tell that guy to seek help before they an hero a room full of preschoolers.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

This virus was used as a way to get this Digital ID into the population and also the Chinese model of spying in the nation.

It will soon be like Minority Report and Demolition Man mixed together

originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
This virus was used as a way to get this Digital ID into the population...

Digital id was being planned well before the Vidsteria.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
This virus was used as a way to get this Digital ID into the population...

Digital id was being planned well before the Vidsteria.

All of this was planned long before COVID.

They created the system, COVID is just one of many delivery mechanism.

We have given up too much, lost too much. I am just not ready to give any more. I know me alone, means nothing to anyone else, and serves no purpose.

To each his own. His own beliefs, his own choices, his own hill. I may not go down fighting, I choose to go down on my terms.

I do not fear what that can do me. I do not fear dying. I fear living living in a country I did not at least try to defend.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: zosimov
I don't have a mobile phone.

And I never imagined I'd be forced to carry one.

I tried calling you the other day, on your land line obviously, to give you a heads up that I'll be in Colorado in September.

Reason? Talking digital ID and mDL with your state. Dun-dun-dunnnnnnn.

AM, does this mean, at least to some on ATS, that you are in fact "The Man"?

I should clarify, I don't mean as in "You da man!" 😜

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

There is no experimental Covid-19 vaccination so you'll have no problem.

originally posted by: djz3ro
a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

There is no experimental Covid-19 vaccination so you'll have no problem.

I see you post to stir the pot.

You have to know that the COVID-19 vaccine is not approved. It has only been allowed to be administered under the approval for experimental use.

So, your retort is not factual. It looks to be made just to be confrontational, and to create a hostile response.

Forgive me if I am wrong, but I don't participate in conversations that have no chance at civil discourse.

I will not participate in any further dialogue with you. This is my final response to any of your posts in this thread.

originally posted by: Mandroid7
a reply to: djz3ro

It's not even a vaccine.

No, this is a misconception because it's not a vaccine in the traditional sense, in that it doesn't use a dose of the virus itself to give you immunity.

In a previous reply I pointed out that there is no experimental vaccine. This is based on another misconception, the belief that the mNRA technology is untested but that isn't true. Not only has the tech been around and tested for years, for use in other vaccinations but the reason it was "rushed through" wasn't by skipping steps, it was by the amassive mount of funding made available.

The Covid-19 vaccination was tested on over 40,000 volunteers by Pfizer and more than 30,000 by Moderna in their trials, I don't recall the AZ figures, it's not as widely discussed.

So much being spread about this, unfortunately on places like ATS, is just fear mongering and people are gullible enough to swallow it....

originally posted by: [post=26000616]Mandroid7[/post
Can you imagine how miserable the butt-hurt guys life is that he re-joins a website he was kicked off of to troll against the popular opinion about an obvious psyop that a 5 year old would say "wtf"?
Yikes
I'd tell that guy to seek help before they an hero a room full of preschoolers.

I can't imagine getting butthurt about anything to be honest. Who are you talking about, I'm a bit lost when it comes to this bit.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
I see you post to stir the pot.

Not even remotely, I'm just pointing out the truth of the matter.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
You have to know that the COVID-19 vaccine is not approved. It has only been allowed to be administered under the approval for experimental use.

I have to do I? No, because that's not true, see the post I wrote after the one I'm replying to for details.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
So, your retort is not factual. It looks to be made just to be confrontational, and to create a hostile response.

No you just disagree with what I said.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
Forgive me if I am wrong, but I don't participate in conversations that have no chance at civil discourse.

You are forgiven.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
I will not participate in any further dialogue with you. This is my final response to any of your posts in this thread.

OK...

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

They will despise the sight of us, because we will be a reminder of what they threw away, and can never regain.

It's really funny the different ways you anti-vaxxers romanticise things to justify your actions to yourselves...

It is kinda the tone that the governments use , take the vaccine or we go full fascist on you.

We cut you out of everything , you will beg for the vaccine when you cannot even go shopping for groceries.

If i don't want to be vaccinated and die from corona ( wich i already had ) so be it.

Shame on me then.

alteast i go out on my own terms.

I would consider , but not like this when they shove it down your throat and bring facism to town.

a reply to: TheGreazel

Is this really how the US are handling it? I don't think I'd trust that either.

I mean BawJaws hasn't handled it very well either, also sewing mistrust but the relevant information is there for all to see.

Lol, like the government already doesn’t have your health and immunization records…. Does this really deviate that far?

a reply to: djz3ro

People going door to door trying to talk to you about it, companies and sports teams stopping just short of mandating it and encouraging people to hassle the unvaccinated.

There is 1 vaccine hitting the market I would consider, but that will most likely never be available in the states.

I know someone in the USAF with a heart condition from birth took multiple surgeries to fix his doctor has said do not take Pfizer, or Moderna, or JJ, side effects could kill you, USAF is saying the moment its FDA approved it will be mandated no exceptions.

At my base 3 different squadrons and support personnel got it last spring, zero deaths zero long term hospitalizations so only about 30% of the base elected to get vaccinated.

Peer pressure, or threats will not (if the goal is vaccination) get the results they claim to want.

I am not vaccinated, have the anti-bodies and to date haven't been shown the data to support vaccine over my natural antibodies, Just peer pressure and veiled threats.

a reply to: Irishhaf

Which vaccine do you think won't hit the states?

What is new, you get given a barcode at birth and a winners certificate.

a reply to: djz3ro

Novavax

It has an outside chance but Pfizer and moderna have truly flooded the market so if I see it locally I'll be surprised.

a reply to: Irishhaf

All we hear about is Pfizer and Moderna, over here it's AstraZenica that seems to be the big one.

a reply to: djz3ro

They just finished clinical trials made in a more traditional manner seem at least in trials to have fewer side effects.

They were working with the fda so we might get an emergency use, just don't know if a small company wants to try and muscle in on the big hitters.

a reply to: djz3ro

In a previous reply I pointed out that there is no experimental vaccine.

Sorry , but that is a post made from sheer ignorance .
Experimental vaccines are any vaccine that is still in testing .
And that is the way it was put into use.
As an emergency release experimental vaccine .
And is still that today.