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originally posted by: nonspecific
There are no plans to make covid 19 vaccinations mandatory in the UK and laws that prohibit it anyway
originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Xtrozero
Don't EVEN Think About taking the " Poison " meinherr , Ich mag dich .
Lebe frei oder stirb !
originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
If covid was soo bad, by now half of the human population will be dead, it will be chaos and bodies will be decomposing in the side walks.
Guess what, it is not going to happen.
originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
OK , you Obviously are One of the " Lost Souls " , See You in 2032 NOT.........................(
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
Why, a few hundred thousand isn't bad? I guess if the vaccine was soo bad, by now half of the human population will be dead, it will be chaos and bodies will be decomposing in the side walks.
It's not, so I guess you think the vaccine is harmless.
originally posted by: Chalcedony
I read a lot of things. I try to debunk a lot of things. I have not really followed the coronavirus fear factory but I did know about this issue prior to the coronavirus due to my profession and when I heard that the vaccines do not prevent transmission, this issue is the first thought that jumped into my mind. I made a comment about this on another thread, expecting to immediately be debunked by the usuals on ATS, bot or not that have been extolling the virtues of these vaccines. I was not, so I am making this it's own post just because I want to this to be debunked. Please be polite in your debunking.
So. My concern and/or conspiracy theory about these vaccines is that because the vaccines do not stop transmission of the virus, it will continue to spread and mutate, becoming more and more deadly and killing unvaccinated people. We have seen this before in Marek’s disease, which is a virus that affects chickens. The vaccine for this virus only stops symptoms. It does not stop 100% of infections or transmission of the virus. Due to this, Marek’s has continued to spread and mutate and is now 100% fatal to unvaccinated birds.
I will post what I feel is the most clear, concise news article about this issue, which comes from PBS newshour. This is by no means the only article or information available on this subject. Several mainstream news organizations have reported on this in the past and studies have been done regarding this issue. I am again posting this information because I WANT someone to debunk it.
Here is the link and a couple quotes from the article.... www.pbs.org...
Chickens vaccinated against Marek’s disease rarely get sick. But the vaccine does not prevent them from spreading Marek’s to unvaccinated birds. “With the hottest strains, every unvaccinated bird dies within 10 days. There is no human virus that is that hot. Ebola, for example, doesn’t kill everything in 10 days.” In fact, rather than stop fowl from spreading the virus, the vaccine allows the disease to spread faster and longer than it normally would, a new study finds.
And
The reason this is a problem for Marek’s disease is because the vaccine is “leaky.” A leaky vaccine is one that keeps a microbe from doing serious harm to its host, but doesn’t stop the disease from replicating and spreading to another individual. On the other hand, a “perfect” vaccine is one that sets up lifelong immunity that never wanes and blocks both infection and transmission. It’s important to note childhood vaccines for polio, measles, mumps, rubella and smallpox aren’t leaky; they are considered “perfect” vaccines. As such, they are in no way in danger of falling prey to this phenomenon. But the results do raise the questions for some human vaccines that are leaky – such as malaria, and other agricultural vaccines, such as the one being used against avian influenza, or bird flu.
If you are going to debunk this by saying that Malaria has not become more deadly to unvaccinated people, and it's vaccine is leaky please do not bother. As someone who believes in science, I would have to read a study that says that and I can find none. If you can, please share.
What say you, ATS? Am I concerned over nothing? It would seem so because no mention of this is ever made when referring to the fact that transmission is still possible with the coronavirus vaccines.
originally posted by: Dalamax
Isn’t modern medicine aimed at only treating the symptoms anyway? Why cure a client when you can make them a repeat customer for life, right?
originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
" but do they respect my to get it "
Well me Personally , no . I think it is Insane to put your Personal Health and Trust in a Strangers Hands .
originally posted by: Havamal
a reply to: Chalcedony
Get the vax. Then you don't get sick.
Don't get the vax. You might get sick. Your fault.
originally posted by: Dalamax
Isn’t modern medicine aimed at only treating the symptoms anyway? Why cure a client when you can make them a repeat customer for life, right?
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
" but do they respect my to get it "
Well me Personally , no . I think it is Insane to put your Personal Health and Trust in a Strangers Hands .
You do that like 100 times a day...lol
originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
No I Don't , I Live ALONE.................^)
originally posted by: Havamal
a reply to: Chalcedony
Get the vax. Then you don't get sick.
Pretty easy.