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posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 06:05 PM
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I'm not in the US, I've not seen the levels or pressure to be vaccinated that are talked about.

So I really can't comment.



originally posted by: loam
a reply to: nonspecific

So just in the last few days these vaccine manufacturers have added more warning conditions to their black box labels.

Let me ask you something. Since there's clear momentum to force people to take these vaccines, what is the point of a black box warning?






posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 06:06 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: loam


Here's at least nearly half a million people who might disagree with you:



www.openvaers.com...


Have you even dug into the actual reports, the vast majority that died, as example, could have died with a small breeze they had so many other serious medical issues on top.
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Just going to point out here that virtually all of the pre-vaccine covid deaths where "a small breeze" would have killed them were counted as covid fatalities. This is a known fact.
It's only now with the vax that were are told to differentiate and not lump cases into one big pile.
Funny that.



posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 06:10 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

No, my issue is people grab whatever fits they narrative with zero concern what is behind it other than it shows a number they like....


You mean like claiming a novel fast-tracked vaccine is indisputably safe and couldn't possibly pose any wide-spread material risk of future harm?



BTW what is "insufficiently tested", there was no more or less testing as any other drug...


That's either willful ignorance or intentional deceit.

Next.


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posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 06:12 PM
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a reply to: booyakasha

No joke, that's some snot-nosed brat type of reply if I've ever seen one. I have many relatives who took tho Covid jab and even they wouldn't say that to me in person.



posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 06:15 PM
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originally posted by: underpass61

Just going to point out here that virtually all of the pre-vaccine covid deaths where "a small breeze" would have killed them were counted as covid fatalities. This is a known fact.
It's only now with the vax that were are told to differentiate and not lump cases into one big pile.
Funny that.


I think most have posted concerns over the so called death count. Much of what was being reported was infused with anti-Trump propaganda during a election year. I have wondered what the numbers would have been, how would the states have reacted so on and so forth if this all happened in 2018.

I don't trust the death count while still understanding this is much worst than the flu in many ways. What makes it seem weaker is it effects the young much less then even a normal flu, but boy oh boy if you are older it can be a real bitch.



posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 06:16 PM
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a reply to: nonspecific

What country are you in? Because by comparison, it seems things are even worse elsewhere.



posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 06:16 PM
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a reply to: loam



" force people to take these vaccines, what is the point of a black box warning? "


Because they Must by some Unknown , Unwritten Law , Tell You First they Want You Dead by you Actually Listening to their Propaganda Tripe BEFORE they Kill Your Ahass with a Cocktail of Poisons . Rules are Rules I Guess............

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posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 06:18 PM
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I'm in the UK.

There's resistance to vaccination here but I don't think it's on the same kind of level as in the US.

I only know a few people that refuse to have one of the various jabs available.



originally posted by: loam
a reply to: nonspecific

What country are you in? Because by comparison, it seems things are even worse elsewhere.



posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: loam

You mean like claiming a novel fast-tracked vaccine is indisputably safe and couldn't possibly pose any wide-spread material risk of future harm?


I never claim that and have said people under the age of 40 and healthy most likely should not get it. I'm still waiting on the harm part that is outside of what we see as what typically happens. I'm going to repeat my words... they have done the same amount of testing as any other drug, so what else do you want?




That's either willful ignorance or intentional deceit.

Next.



So what testing did they not do? I don't think people even understand what the process is.



posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 06:21 PM
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a reply to: nonspecific

The UK? Your MPs are on the compulsory bandwagon.

Let's talk in a few months. LOL.



posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 06:23 PM
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a reply to: Havamal

My cousins step-father died from Covid before the "vaccines" were released to the general population.

He was over 600lbs with severe health issues and bed-ridden. He died of a heart attack but they marked his death related to Covid.

Not saying it wasn't (sarcasm) but that's the only person I know of who died from Covid even though he died from heart failure in reality.

I've had Covid 4 times supposedly, don't really trust the tests though. Healthy as ever and the first time I only had a runny nose and a mild cough for 3 days maybe.

Such a scary virus, shaking in my boots lol, totally worthy of destroying the economy, our rights, and businesses over, not to mention injecting mRNA into your veins over.

Clown world.




posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 06:24 PM
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originally posted by: Chalcedony
a reply to: slatesteam

The first bivalent influenza vaccine was introduced in 1942. I will have to go back and make a comparison of population vs. influenza deaths prior to the vaccine and post vaccine in order to see if there is a trend of increased deaths that is not due to population increase and also compare to the amount of unvaccinated people vs. vaccinated people that die from influenza and the demographics of the population then vs. now, which I am definitely going to do when I have more free time. Thank you for giving me more things to look into.


I thought we were looking at corona virus not influenzas.

In 1965, researchers discovered a vexing respiratory infection called 229E. Today, we know it as the common cold.
the first human coronavirus ever discovered.



posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 06:27 PM
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a reply to: Havamal


I most be a super human, woo hoo, you will not have my blood, hell no, no way, nope is not going to happen



posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 06:29 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

If covid was soo bad, by now half of the human population will be dead, it will be chaos and bodies will be decomposing in the side walks.

Guess what, it is not going to happen.




posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 06:30 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

You're trolling, right?

Why do you think these vaccines received an emergency use declaration from the FDA?

Are you saying that they went through the same rigorous and extensive vetting process as all previous vaccines prior to covid?

Like I said, either willful ignorance or intentional deceit.

I guess you're in favor of fast-tracking all safety studies on drugs now.

Like I also said, big Pharma loves you guys!



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posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 06:37 PM
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a reply to: loam



Queen takes Bishop , Check .



posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 06:39 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Chalcedony

Don't talk to us, talk to a trusted medical professional.



Fauci ?

Wuhan Institute ?

Bill Gates ?



Oh, right! Someone you can TRUST!!

Those have been muzzled....for the protection of the Democra....I mean for your protection....



posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 06:43 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero


Don't EVEN Think About taking the " Poison " meinherr , Ich mag dich .



Lebe frei oder stirb !


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posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 07:05 PM
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There are no plans to make covid 19 vaccinations mandatory in the UK and laws that prohibit it anyway.

That's not check it's just over confidence.


a reply to: Zanti Misfit



posted on Jul, 13 2021 @ 07:10 PM
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originally posted by: loam

You're trolling, right?

Why do you think these vaccines received an emergency use declaration from the FDA?

Are you saying that they went through the same rigorous and extensive vetting process as all previous vaccines prior to covid?

Like I said, either willful ignorance or intentional deceit.

I guess you're in favor of fast-tracking all safety studies on drugs now.

Like I also said, big Pharma loves you guys!



There are 3 Phases, so which one did they not do? After Phase 3 it is bureaucracy of paper that takes up the rest of the time...no more testing. EU does the same thing but their bureaucracy is smaller and so drugs in EU can come out years faster than in the states and typically do.



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