The Vaccine Kills you? The Vaccine This, The Vaccine That, it doesnt matter

Meet me back here in 3 years time.

We can compare notes as to what was actually true, what was speculation and what was just outright made up on the internet.

originally posted by: angelchemuel
a reply to: nonspecific
Nope!
They should have just let the 'virus' rip.

#1 there is emerging evidence that the 'virus' might be as a result of gain of function experimenting. Hell, we knew from last year the virus DNA (not the isolation of the virus, different thing) contains some sort of HIV particulate.
#2. You can argue with me until you are blue in the face about the death figures and how flu disappeared because 'everyone was indoors' and yadda yadda, but there is plenty of OFFICIAL, via FOI that death rates in UK were actually less than in some of the previous 5 years. No, it wasn't because nobody was dying of flu!
#3 The mere fact that millions were spent on Nightingale hospitals to alleviate the pressure on NHS.....approximately 200 were admitted into the London one, until it came to light they didn't have the extra medical staff to man them, let alone the resulting hospitalisations did NOT put extra stress on the NHS....but to the detriment of at least 5 million people who are awaiting treatment and Sajid Javid says we can expect that to rise to 10 million...10 MILLION from a 67 million population!!! FFS!!! You do know his background don't you?
#4 Want to start on the adverse reactions? Totally unprecedented (to use your words) variations of reactions and deaths to any vaccine EVER! More so than the combined total of all other vaccines added up. Do your own homework on that research.
#5 Any 'medicine' (which is what this vaccine, not vaccine is) will have all CONTRAINDICATIONS listed to who should not have a 'medicine'. They don't have any because there is zilch data on long term effects of these vaccines. Here's one that has just been added to help you out.....
EMA advises against use of vaccines in those with pre-existing CLS
So from that document it is just 6 cases EMA have looked into. 3 people had the pre-existing condition, one died. The other 3 had NO pre-existing CLS and now they do. A life threatening condition. So NOW they are adding it as a contraindication! This should have all been done BEFORE vaccine rollout. Hell, we, nor they know if the constituents of the jab have any contraindications to any meds people are already on! But just 6 people warrant the EMA to say the vaccine should not be given to people with CSL, but what about the other 50% who developed it after vaccination?. What about all the other adverse reactions which are much higher, let alone the 5,000 odd deaths as a DIRECT RESULT of the vaccine in EU alone? Totally unnecessary deaths.

We should stop saying this so called 'vaccine' is issued under 'emergency use' because apparently there is no treatment for a more virulent version of the common cold which is exactly what SARS-cOV-2 is. It is a UN-LICENCED MEDICINE which is going horribly wrong. I repeat, it is an UN-LICENSED MEDICINE! Personally I wouldn't touch ANYTHING which has not been licensed with a barge pole.

Hell's Bells! We've had flu jabs since 1930's, again not a vaccine, a 'medicine' and they STILL can't come up with a total eradication and yet people seem to think this C19 jab is going to be some sort of 'miracle cure' so we can get back to 'normality'????

So much more.....but rant over

originally posted by: nonspecific
What possible connection dies Epstein have to my question?

originally posted by: Dalamax
Nope. Wouldn’t have had any appreciable effect on society. The Epsteen island visitor log coming to light unimpeded would have had a devastating effect on some high profile people and upset high society however.

a reply to: nonspecific

Smoke and mirrors and the gulliblity of people in regards to power.

The mortality in regards to a fabrication would be negligible. The fallout from having an in depth and public review of pedo and predatory behaviour amongst our high society, with proof, would put the world as a whole in upheaval.

It would be glorious to have the mushy rotten pulp of those involved exposed to the light of day. All of these lockdowns, fear mongering and seesawing recommendations are the smoke and mirrors of the wealthy and monsterous.

So.you think this whole pandemic was manufactured just to cover this up?

Why would China and Russia be on on it?

originally posted by: Dalamax

originally posted by: nonspecific
What possible connection dies Epstein have to my question?

originally posted by: Dalamax
Nope. Wouldn’t have had any appreciable effect on society. The Epsteen island visitor log coming to light unimpeded would have had a devastating effect on some high profile people and upset high society however.

a reply to: nonspecific

Smoke and mirrors and the gulliblity of people in regards to power.

The mortality in regards to a fabrication would be negligible. The fallout from having an in depth and public review of pedo and predatory behaviour amongst our high society, with proof, would put the world as a whole in upheaval.

It would be glorious to have the mushy rotten pulp of those involved exposed to the light of day. All of these lockdowns, fear mongering and seesawing recommendations are the smoke and mirrors of the wealthy and monsterous.

Maybe they know something we don’t.

I can’t think of any other reason why the last year and a half has gone down the way it has.

A global fluster cluck of control and enforcement in such an amateur fashion. I can’t fathom the stupidity that went into organising this sh!t fight

Can you?

It just reeks of a desperate, grasping attempt at distraction regardless of the optics. Sheer unrelenting lunacy playing for time.

And every country is playing the same tune, singing the same words. You tell me it isn’t a global effort to hide something because bull# baffles brains.

The whole shebang reeks of bull# dude.

A reply to: nonspecific

a reply to: sprockets2000

Covid-19 does not exist. Smart dust vaccines do.

a reply to: nonspecific
Will do, but I don't think it will take as long as 3 years

Rainbows
Jane

Ok.

Private message me when you think it's time for us to take a reflective look

originally posted by: angelchemuel
a reply to: nonspecific
Will do, but I don't think it will take as long as 3 years

Rainbows
Jane

So every nation on the planet, who usually will take great joy in exposing each other, getting one up and generally arguing have all come together in a full scale worldwide plot to ........

What exactly?

How many millions of people must be in on this grand deception?

It all seems a bit too far fetched for me.

originally posted by: Dalamax
Maybe they know something we don’t.

I can’t think of any other reason why the last year and a half has gone down the way it has.

A global fluster cluck of control and enforcement in such an amateur fashion. I can’t fathom the stupidity that went into organising this sh!t fight

Can you?

It just reeks of a desperate, grasping attempt at distraction regardless of the optics. Sheer unrelenting lunacy playing for time.

And every country is playing the same tune, singing the same words. You tell me it isn’t a global effort to hide something because bull# baffles brains.

The whole shebang reeks of bull# dude.

A reply to: nonspecific

a reply to: nonspecific

Globalist technocrats have more power than national governments. If you have any doubt look at campaign contributions. Our economies and industry are all interdependent on the same corporations and financiers. I’m sure you’re aware of the EU.

The World Economic Forum official website lists all the partners and players, have a look at the bodies and corporations behind it and the agenda which it sets. Then it’s easy to find a correlation between said agenda and the reality we now face.

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Mandroid7
How do you know the vaccine is even real?
Maybe it's a flu repackaged with the pcr test, made to implement china style social credit scoring?

Gates, the nerd boys wet dream to control the meanies calling him out for chillin on perv island?

Even the side effects sound like theater.

With many shots getting found out to be just saline, it looks probable.

Interesting. Got any evidence for that?

Dr. Martin received his undergraduate (BA) from Goshen College, his Masters of Science from Ball State University, and his Doctorate (PhD) from the University of Virginia.

SPIKE PROTEIN DEPOPULATION PATENTS SINCE 2002!
www.bitchute.com...

Dr. David Martin gives a deposition to Reiner Fuellmich after combing thousands of patents since the early 2000's for the SarsCov spike protein injections. Names all of the companies, Universities and major players involved, DARPA and government connections, etc.

You cannot patent something that is found in nature, so they created In-sillico make-believe computer generated genome sequences that they claim are Coronaviruses, Patent those sequences, since they are man made, not natural, which allows them to patent the PCR test sequence to detect their made up sequence, which allows them to patent the jab, which their synthetic lab made proteins to "treat" the make believe patented Coronavirus detected by the patented test to detect the make believe virus, and then they poison you.

The "outbreaks" are just PCR test fraud looking for made up patented sequences using the name Coronavirus, SARS, etc. They only exist on paper for patent reasons, the real bioweapon is in the jab, not an actual virus going around the public.

I dont know, considering the incidence, severity and mortality pre-vaccine. How is that explained in the video? Specifically, what were people dying of in 2020? I suspect your answer is flu. The video was 50 min. I'm looking for the 50 sec response if you'd be so kind. And if it was flu, are you inferring SARS and MERS were also flu? I'm not following.

a reply to: FreeOrigin

Fake numbers, there were no extra deaths.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: sprockets2000

So facts and data not required, just your feels.

Yeah... except... he actually told you the facts and data he was relying on.

But, since he is not CNN or MSDNC, you don't accept the facts as presented.

originally posted by: sprockets2000
I dont know why everyone thinks they need all this evidence. All i need to know is that this disease aint that dangerous and they really, REALLY, REALLLLLLLLY want me to take it, thats enough for me to not take it, dont need no conspiracy theory.

Here's more proof that this vax pushing is sketchy as f#ck - how many times have we heard this "logic"?

originally posted by: underpass61

originally posted by: sprockets2000
I dont know why everyone thinks they need all this evidence. All i need to know is that this disease aint that dangerous and they really, REALLY, REALLLLLLLLY want me to take it, thats enough for me to not take it, dont need no conspiracy theory.

Here's more proof that this vax pushing is sketchy as f#ck - how many times have we heard this "logic"?

What's the source for that?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: nonspecific
The fact is; it is impossible to know.

I would disagree.

It would be worse than if we had not taken the precautions we did.

Countries like Sweden initially opted to let nature take its course, and for herd immunity to establish itself. It was a disaster. Despite its small population, and small population density, it peaked at 474 deaths from COVID-19 in a single day.

In countries that locked down fast, deaths were substantially reduced, as was the spread of COVID-19. So we have examples of where the best practices were followed, to compare with.

In New Zealand, the lockdowns were sudden (within 4 hours of confirmed public outbreak) and comprehensive. They were also quite short. The result that after having endured the pandemic for a year, the number of dead in New Zealand is only 26 that have died from COVID-19, says something clear about the lockdowns you deny are effective. New Zealand had no other magic defense against the virus, no drugs, or special tech, just masks, lockdowns and hand sanitizer.

Nor in New Zealand were there people out to sabotage the lockdown process with mass rallies, and defiant non-compliance that some idiots applauded. Let alone political rallies! I recall the derision that was heaped upon the Democratic Party for low turn-out to rallies, while the other side claimed record numbers - while there was an epidemic going on! I mean where is the common sense?

originally posted by: underpass61

originally posted by: sprockets2000
I dont know why everyone thinks they need all this evidence. All i need to know is that this disease aint that dangerous and they really, REALLY, REALLLLLLLLY want me to take it, thats enough for me to not take it, dont need no conspiracy theory.

Here's more proof that this vax pushing is sketchy as f#ck - how many times have we heard this "logic"?

Proof? Or straw man?

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: nonspecific
Here in the UK the death toll is stated to be around 130000 I think. A lot of folks use this as a way of saying the actions taken are not justified but the question I ask is what would that number be if no measures had been taken at all?

If like many claim it's no worse than the flu and we had no lockdowns, social distancing, masks and vaccines what would that number now be?

As you say the longer this goes on the closer we get to the point when people will have no option but to concede they were mistaken or mislead.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: sprockets2000

The disease killed 1/2 a million in the USA in less than a year. Even if 50% of the deaths were misattributed, that would still be a significant number of deaths, and warrant serious concern.

So far, 3.4 billion people have taken COVID-19 vaccines, worldwide. There have been very few adverse reactions, compared to the numbers who are vaccinated, and now they are beginning to report that the only people to die from COVID-19 in the last couple of months (in multiple countries) are all unvaccinated.

On a personal level, I and my wife have been fully vaccinated. No adverse reaction at all. I have no fears of the vaccines because I know the science, and contents, and the testing procedures undertaken, of the vaccines, and they are significantly safe.

The longer you speak out against the vaccines that have now got such evidence of their safety, a pool of evidence which is growing daily, the more you look like a kook.

You can take precautions without lockdowns. Severe lockdowns have not been shown to have a significant impact on covid infections, only on the economy.

Please explain this economic figure: United States Bankruptcies

And then explain how countries that have reduced the spread, or even totally eliminated the COVID-19 epidemic, in their populations, how did they do it?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Sigh,

CDC

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: nonspecific

Globalist technocrats have more power than national governments. If you have any doubt look at campaign contributions. Our economies and industry are all interdependent on the same corporations and financiers. I’m sure you’re aware of the EU.

The World Economic Forum official website lists all the partners and players, have a look at the bodies and corporations behind it and the agenda which it sets. Then it’s easy to find a correlation between said agenda and the reality we now face.

Yes, but if they had that power anyway, what would they get out of all this alleged fakery? Nothing they don't already have.

And, if China was behind it, has it somehow elevated China's position? Is Amazon selling more stuff? Is the World Health Organization raking in the cash more than it used to beforehand? Is Germany and the EU gloriously powerful? Nah, it's all BS. It's all been doom-porn for the gullible to rant over.

You are damned if you do and you are damned if you don't. Double edged sword. They going to make life very difficult for all of who don't take the jab. They going to have to tie me up, hold me down and force it in me kicking and screaming. But hey who knows maybe the "Powers That Be" awaken from their coma........