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originally posted by: ketsuko
Hard work doesn't pay off! Hard work doesn't pay off! You're just a wage slave ... blah, blah, blah.
We hear it all the time from people who want the minimum wages raised. They whine constantly about how no one can just go into a job and earn their way up the ladder anymore. It's impossible! It just can't be done, so people need to start out at what they think they're worth.
And the constant reply is that no employee who does a good job stays at the minimum for long. They move up; they get promoted. They get experience and skills that let them get better jobs with better pay, etc.
Yes. It's true.
And right now, it's easier than ever. Do you know why? The COVID economy. That's why. Businesses are literally starving for want of employees. All the whiners and complainers are busy sitting on their butts on the couch taking temporary unemployment instead of getting jobs. And they're short-sighted fools.
You move up faster now than you will when the government stops paying you and you have to compete with all your slacker bros. You could be well established, possibly even promoted by the time they drag their worthless butts off the couch, but no ... you're all going to sit their milking the situation until you can't anymore, and then you'll be back where you started - at the bottom. And the complaints and whining will start all over again.
Do you know how I know this is real?
Once again I've lived it.
When the shutdown happened, I got laid off into contract employment by the company I've worked for since 2008. It was less than I was making before; it was less than unemployment would have been. But I kept working anyhow. This past March, I got called back with a potential full-time opportunity. I applied, interviewed and was hired. I started in April, got my first raise and my 90-day eval. And today, I was offered my first promotion.
The speed of all this sounds like a lot, but I know it's due to the COVID economy. It's a workers' market. Jobs are easy to find, even salaried ones with benefits. All you need to do is be able to show up on time and work quickly, efficiently, and with competence. It pays off, and I know that in the normal course of a regular economy, this would likely have been where I would have ended up eventually, just in a longer period of time.
Why? Because I do those things: show up on time, show up reliably, and work quickly, efficiently, and with competence.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: ketsuko
Hard work doesn't pay off! Hard work doesn't pay off! You're just a wage slave ... blah, blah, blah.
We hear it all the time from people who want the minimum wages raised. They whine constantly about how no one can just go into a job and earn their way up the ladder anymore. It's impossible! It just can't be done, so people need to start out at what they think they're worth.
And the constant reply is that no employee who does a good job stays at the minimum for long. They move up; they get promoted. They get experience and skills that let them get better jobs with better pay, etc.
Yes. It's true.
And right now, it's easier than ever. Do you know why? The COVID economy. That's why. Businesses are literally starving for want of employees. All the whiners and complainers are busy sitting on their butts on the couch taking temporary unemployment instead of getting jobs. And they're short-sighted fools.
You move up faster now than you will when the government stops paying you and you have to compete with all your slacker bros. You could be well established, possibly even promoted by the time they drag their worthless butts off the couch, but no ... you're all going to sit their milking the situation until you can't anymore, and then you'll be back where you started - at the bottom. And the complaints and whining will start all over again.
Do you know how I know this is real?
Once again I've lived it.
When the shutdown happened, I got laid off into contract employment by the company I've worked for since 2008. It was less than I was making before; it was less than unemployment would have been. But I kept working anyhow. This past March, I got called back with a potential full-time opportunity. I applied, interviewed and was hired. I started in April, got my first raise and my 90-day eval. And today, I was offered my first promotion.
The speed of all this sounds like a lot, but I know it's due to the COVID economy. It's a workers' market. Jobs are easy to find, even salaried ones with benefits. All you need to do is be able to show up on time and work quickly, efficiently, and with competence. It pays off, and I know that in the normal course of a regular economy, this would likely have been where I would have ended up eventually, just in a longer period of time.
Why? Because I do those things: show up on time, show up reliably, and work quickly, efficiently, and with competence.
And because it happened to you, that's proof everyone is getting the same opportunities and rewards for the same performance?
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
originally posted by: olaru12
We start even green workers off at 22.50 an hour and up to 30.00 if you show initiative and get some skills. We're not having any trouble filling positions.
Union proud, Union Strong.
What to you pay someone with 25 years experience, and industry certs?
Sky's the limit....
Time to move above the line and work on a project by project basis; with a separate contract for each one.
Or get an Ltd. corp. and become an independent contractor consultant and write your own ticket!
paradoxmarketing.io...
originally posted by: knoxie
Whine, whine, whine.
The amount of time you spend here makes me question your stellar work ethic, but whatevs..
Whine, whine, whine.
originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
a reply to: randomtangentsrme
Oh and for those watching, that 22.50 to 30 an hour is all the raise you get. Union proud and union strong, and union stifling.
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
a reply to: randomtangentsrme
Oh and for those watching, that 22.50 to 30 an hour is all the raise you get. Union proud and union strong, and union stifling.
That's a lie or perhaps you just don't know what your are talking about.
Some techs start at $30 and go up from there.
www.iatse728.org...
I'm also SAG/AFTRA heres the pay scale for that Union.
abspayroll.com...
Yes indeed...Union proud, Union Strong
I got to my current pay scale with 10 years of dedication and hard work; Starting as a background extra/driver.
Deny ignorance!!!!
originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
a reply to: randomtangentsrme
Oh and for those watching, that 22.50 to 30 an hour is all the raise you get. Union proud and union strong, and union stifling.
That's a lie or perhaps you just don't know what your are talking about.
Some techs start at $30 and go up from there.
www.iatse728.org...
I'm also SAG/AFTRA heres the pay scale for that Union.
abspayroll.com...
Yes indeed...Union proud, Union Strong
I got to my current pay scale with 10 years of dedication and hard work; Starting as a background extra/driver.
Deny ignorance!!!!
Deny ignorance indeed.
The links you provide do not support your own declarations?
So explain yourself, if you would be so kind.
Oh and for those watching, that 22.50 to 30 an hour is all the raise you get. Union proud and union strong, and union stifling.
Notice the advice was to leave the union. Interesting to think about. Collective bargaining is great, until you outclass the other workers. Then you are a problem for the collective.
1. SAG Film Rates
SAG Basic Theatrical Scale: $1,030.00 / Day | $3,575.00 / Week
SAG Low Budget Scale: 65% of Basic rates. Currently $669.00 / Day | $2,323.00 / Week
SAG MPA Scale: 35.00% of Basic rates. Currently $360.00 / Day | $1,251.00 / Week
SAG UPA & Short Film Scale: 20% of Basic rates. Currently $206.00 / Day
Stunt Coordinator Scale: $1,030.00 / Day | $3,840.00 / Week (all theatrical CBAs)
originally posted by: joejack1949
Is 30$ an hour a lot in America? I guess it depends on the location, but you're certainly not buying a house or retiring on 60k/year in many Canadian cities. I suspect you'll see a similar inflation in cost of housing down south. Even 120k/year wont buy you a house in my mid-sized city in Ontario. Maybe a condo. I get why people aren't getting out of bed for minimum wage.