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Could AboveTopSecret be One of the Political Extremist Platforms DHS Says it Now Monitors?

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posted on Jun, 28 2021 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: carewemust
Ahh and the self aggrandizement kicks in, I know everyone wants to think that we are important enough to be watched and monitored.

But also publicly posting, "hey do you think they watch us" is honestly one of the most silly things I've ever seen or experienced, because if you think they are, now you just let them know you think they are....

If you want to think of this as an intelligence war you don't go publicly posting like that unless you are dishonest, setting people up, or an agent yourself...

I understand you wish and hope for what transpires on this forum to be important, and yes exchange of information is important, but if you really think we are being watched/infiltrated watch what you say and how you say it.

But also if this forum is anything it's been infiltrated by disinfo a gents that may or not know thats what they are...basically anyone who believes in Q I believe is a part, wether they know it or not, of a massive disinfo campaign.

Just my thoughts tho



posted on Jun, 28 2021 @ 09:09 PM
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a reply to: Poofmander

Err...you have been in the forums since 2010... We have threads showing the Obama/Biden administration themselves stated they were infiltrating people into conspiracy theory websites to push their narrative...

There is even a paper by Obama's appointee to head the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, Cass Sunstein.


In a 2008 academic paper, President Barack Obama's appointee to head the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs advocated "cognitive infiltration" of groups that advocate "conspiracy theories" like the ones surrounding 9/11.
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Obama staffer wants 'cognitive infiltration' of 9/11 conspiracy groups


Conspiracy Theories

Harvard Public Law Working Paper No. 08-03

U of Chicago, Public Law Working Paper No. 199

U of Chicago Law & Economics, Olin Working Paper No. 387

30 Pages Posted: 17 Jan 2008 Last revised: 18 Jan 2010
Cass R. Sunstein

Harvard Law School; Harvard University - Harvard Kennedy School (HKS)
Adrian Vermeule

Harvard Law School

Date Written: January 15, 2008
Abstract

Many millions of people hold conspiracy theories; they believe that powerful people have worked together in order to withhold the truth about some important practice or some terrible event. A recent example is the belief, widespread in some parts of the world, that the attacks of 9/11 were carried out not by Al Qaeda, but by Israel or the United States. Those who subscribe to conspiracy theories may create serious risks, including risks of violence, and the existence of such theories raises significant challenges for policy and law. The first challenge is to understand the mechanisms by which conspiracy theories prosper; the second challenge is to understand how such theories might be undermined. Such theories typically spread as a result of identifiable cognitive blunders, operating in conjunction with informational and reputational influences. A distinctive feature of conspiracy theories is their self-sealing quality. Conspiracy theorists are not likely to be persuaded by an attempt to dispel their theories; they may even characterize that very attempt as further proof of the conspiracy. Because those who hold conspiracy theories typically suffer from a crippled epistemology, in accordance with which it is rational to hold such theories, the best response consists in cognitive infiltration of extremist groups. Various policy dilemmas, such as the question whether it is better for government to rebut conspiracy theories or to ignore them, are explored in this light.

Keywords: conspiracy theories, social networks, informational cascades, group polarization

Link

Here is one thread from ATS from around the time you joined.

Government Think Tank Calls For Infiltrating Conspiracy Websites!




edit on 28-6-2021 by ElectricUniverse because: add excerpt and links.



posted on Jun, 28 2021 @ 11:53 PM
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a reply to: Blue Shift

Bigfoot really? Why waste your life on that when we are about to go over the event horizon of big tax and spend craziness and huge inflation.....
I wonder about people's priorities....
Anyway, what could possibly be more interesting than understanding the NWO, Agenda 21, depopulation by weaponized vaxx, and Chinese world takeover plans?
edit on 29-6-2021 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 28 2021 @ 11:54 PM
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a reply to: Poofmander



hh and the self aggrandizement


ummm no, people just wonder if it's really true.



posted on Jun, 29 2021 @ 03:56 AM
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Yes, most of you have very hatefull views ^^ But i can see FBI and CIA vibing and also posting here. U can work for the governement and be a true believer


If we drop all the political drama , then we would be fine.

but thait aint happening



posted on Jun, 29 2021 @ 04:38 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse




Ironic since you have been pro-every conspiracy theory that has been proven wrong about President Trump. If there is no legitimacy whatsoever comes from the very people whom since 2016, and even before, kept claiming "Russians put Trump in the White House" and every idiotic thread including "Trump is an illegitimate POTUS" and every other made up lie every far leftist/anti-Trumper has made in these forums that has been pushed by your kind for almost 5 years now.


Never ever said trump was illegitimate
Or anything about Russians helping trump

I have literally never ever said any of that.

That’s all in your head.

I challenge you to prove otherwise



posted on Jun, 29 2021 @ 04:42 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Well, you’re just lazy then.

It’s pretty simple to see all of a persons post in a thread.

Click on the little dude underneath the stars and posts count and then click “posts in thread”

Look I’ll do it for you, all you need to do is follow the link..

LINK!



edit on 29/6/21 by Chadwickus because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 29 2021 @ 06:27 AM
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a reply to: Chadwickus

Okay... I'm lazy. And I'm still not clicking on it.

You answered my question. I'm good.



posted on Jun, 29 2021 @ 07:29 PM
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Maybe some of the information on this website may help them. Maybe some of them are actual members. Maybe they hint in certain subject matters with real information; if we can figure it out.



posted on Jun, 30 2021 @ 07:21 AM
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I’d be surprised if it wasn’t. And for several reasons. We’re a great source for all kinds of information and research, from marketing to social behavior studies to national security. Sites like ATS are a place where people look for anomalies and alternative explanations, and work under the assumption that we’re lied to more often than not, by those we elect into office, and the media for instance. Places like ATS offer a perfect opportunity to find people who distrust the elite, the government and the military industrial complex. A site like ATS is the perfect place to find fringe theories, and even some people who deeply dislike their government, which is every alphabet agency’s wet dream

That is why I sometimes wonder if some members, here and elsewhere, realize that what they tell others, about how and what they’re prepping, the weapons they own, what military skills they have etc., is freely giving away what little strategic advantage they (think they’ve) got. It is basically like flagging yourself, your ideas and ideals.



posted on Jun, 30 2021 @ 12:18 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: Blue Shift
Anyway, what could possibly be more interesting than understanding the NWO, Agenda 21, depopulation by weaponized vaxx, and Chinese world takeover plans?

Harry Potter? Whatever fiction you like, I guess.



posted on Jun, 30 2021 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: DAVID64
Of course we're being monitored.
We are those who dare to have an opinion, rather than follow the herd. We question the official narrative and that seems to disturb them the most.

* waves to DHS * Hi Guys ! You know Orwell's 1984 wasn't a playbook, right ?



In their head : 'I am doing the right thing - I am protecting America from terrorists and wackos'



posted on Jun, 30 2021 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: DAVID64




posted on Jun, 30 2021 @ 10:00 PM
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originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Boadicea

Read my posts in this thread.

I link directly to a video of him saying it.

I see derangement from those pushing it.


en.wikipedia.org...


Psychological projection is a defense mechanism in which the ego defends itself against unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves and attributing them to others



posted on Jun, 30 2021 @ 10:21 PM
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originally posted by: Poofmander
a reply to: carewemust
Ahh and the self aggrandizement kicks in, I know everyone wants to think that we are important enough to be watched and monitored.

But also publicly posting, "hey do you think they watch us" is honestly one of the most silly things I've ever seen or experienced, because if you think they are, now you just let them know you think they are....

If you want to think of this as an intelligence war you don't go publicly posting like that unless you are dishonest, setting people up, or an agent yourself...

I understand you wish and hope for what transpires on this forum to be important, and yes exchange of information is important, but if you really think we are being watched/infiltrated watch what you say and how you say it.

But also if this forum is anything it's been infiltrated by disinfo a gents that may or not know thats what they are...basically anyone who believes in Q I believe is a part, wether they know it or not, of a massive disinfo campaign.

Just my thoughts tho


You tell him buster!

What we say in this forum is influential beyond one's imagination.



posted on Jun, 30 2021 @ 10:24 PM
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a reply to: 2Faced
This would also be an excellent forum for Aliens to gauge the thoughts of humankind. At least the thoughts that aren't too extreme. (Many of my thoughts can't be posted here, due to the rules against extremism.)



posted on Jun, 30 2021 @ 10:45 PM
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originally posted by: Grenade
Seriously tho, i've never seen any kind of threats or stoking of violence on ATS. Must be our words they fear.

People here are often talking crap about each other. And although they may not make direct threats at each other, the tone they use with some of the things they say could imply or be taken as such. In my opinion.



edit on 6-30-2021 by WakeUpBeer because: typo



posted on Jul, 1 2021 @ 02:13 AM
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a reply to: WakeUpBeer

Trolling each other isn’t a threat to government. This is a discussion forum not some extremist recruitment website.



posted on Jul, 1 2021 @ 05:24 AM
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When I started here 15 years ago this site clearly had disinfo agents, either those developed or went away. Some of accounts have been hijacked.



posted on Jul, 1 2021 @ 09:31 AM
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originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: WakeUpBeer

Trolling each other isn’t a threat to government. This is a discussion forum not some extremist recruitment website.

You didn't say anything about recruitment, just threats/stoking of violence.

I agree it's largely just trolling though.



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