UK Official Covid Vaccine Report More Vaxxed Dying of Delta Than Unvaxxed

Maybe a reply to: Realtruth
Maybe the high risk folks were pushed to the front for their jabs, then the younger, healthier people who haven’t been Stuck, aren’t croaking quite as much/quick.

a reply to: Realtruth

I live in one of the hotpots in Scotland, a lot of people around here have had both jabs and the Delta Veriant is predominant here. 0 deaths though...

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: AaarghZombies

I don't know where you got 8 maybe more like 100?

I'm just guessing at maths but I'm good at grammars.

You take the total number of people who had the virus, and the total number of deaths and you take both as a factor of 100,000. It's simply high school math.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Actually the strongest evidence is China's destruction and suppression of evidence.

That sounds big and scary until you realize that it's not "China" doing it. It's a bunch of local officials who are afraid of getting the blame from the higher ups.

Think of it less as the destruction of evidence and more a few officials obstructing efforts to compile it. The evidence still exists.

It's the difference between two army vets peeing on a cat, and the entire US army drowning all of the cats in America.

originally posted by: summer5
Yes. Their loss of taste and smell came about a week into it with both my daughters. My employer I can't say yet. I've been off for 3 days so I haven't heard any updates.
The difference could be with my jabbed boss she got the Zpack very quickly into her symptoms, only had the cough for 2 days. My one daughter, without the jab, didn't get the Zpack until she was almost 2 weeks into being unwell with the painful cough because she kept testing negative. My other daughter gave up after two negative tests and just rode it out. It took her about 3 weeks to recover.

It is interesting they all took so long to recover, that is far from the norm for younger people.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

They will have to discredit Dr. Malone now. His credentials are incomparable, he's not afraid to speak out...and he goes against the narrative.

I'm sure they're already hard at work to bring him down and shut him up.

So it seems he was involved in this technology back in the late 1980s, but there is not much info on him...not even a Wiki page and so what he says is pretty much based on just him saying he invented. I'm not saying he is right or wrong, but there really isn't anything out there about him to back anything up. He was also around the age of low 20ish and being at UC Davis then we are talking aboiut back when he was a grad student and "he" invented it all as a grad student??? Or was he involved as a grad student typically is... It also seems he has not been involved with any of it after being a grad student, so that is another 30+ years he was not there working or connected in the testing of mRNA.

I do agree with one statement he made "there isn't enough data yet to add all age groups". I have said that those under 40 should not take it too.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Delta variant, cases:
Total: 92,029
Fully vaccinated: 7,235
Partial Vaccinated: 19,957
Unvaccinated: 53,822

Deaths >50 group:

Fully vaxxed (80% of the population): 50
Unvax (about 10% of the population: 38

If the unvaccinated deaths are 38 out of 53,822 unvaccinated infections.
And there are 50 deaths attributed to vaxxed infections.
That's 88 deaths.
Hypothetically taking the total number of cases 92,029 as not at all
vaccinated. And rounding that off at 100,000 then rounding the 88
deaths to 100. What did I do wrong? It looks to me like about 100
deaths will occur per 100,000 unvaccinated infections.
If there were no vaccine? What am I missing partner?

a reply to: ScepticScot
sorry ?
Efficacy is the degree to which a vaccine prevents disease, and possibly also transmission.
Still like to look at those numbers you mentioned earlier.

originally posted by: fotsyfots
a reply to: ScepticScot
sorry ?
Efficacy is the degree to which a vaccine prevents disease, and possibly also transmission.
Still like to look at those numbers you mentioned earlier.

Yes it is, I was explaining how it measures it. It is based on number of people affected between pilot and control groups.

Sorry might be my memory, what numbers was it again?

ETA: was it weekly deaths?

www.ons.gov.uk... es

Sorry link playing up in phone.

If you copy into browser from this.

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales

a reply to: ScepticScot
OK. So using the same reporting traits we've only ever had 1 instance of Flu, originating circa year 247 AD (?)[approx.]

Should it ever magically reappear we can expect the MSM talking heads to inform us on the news....." the Flu virus has to date claimed 79.6521 Trillion & number of cases has reached 54 million trillion( obviously plucked numbers) " can we ?

Exactly how many individual standards or "norms" or usual practices or time tested methods have to smack you in the face until you would pause, take breath & open mindedly apply logic &/or critical thinking to this greatest feat of mass manipulation & pure evil ?
Your favourite number wouldn't be 77 by any chance ?

originally posted by: fotsyfots
a reply to: ScepticScot
OK. So using the same reporting traits we've only ever had 1 instance of Flu, originating circa year 247 AD (?)[approx.]

Should it ever magically reappear we can expect the MSM talking heads to inform us on the news....." the Flu virus has to date claimed 79.6521 Trillion & number of cases has reached 54 million trillion( obviously plucked numbers) " can we ?

Exactly how many individual standards or "norms" or usual practices or time tested methods have to smack you in the face until you would pause, take breath & open mindedly apply logic &/or critical thinking to this greatest feat of mass manipulation & pure evil ?
Your favourite number wouldn't be 77 by any chance ?

Yes I you want to make up stuff, as you just did, it's remarkably easy to construct whatever conspiracy theory takes your fancy.

It's a good bit harder when you have to deal with reality.

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Delta variant, cases:
Total: 92,029
Fully vaccinated: 7,235
Partial Vaccinated: 19,957
Unvaccinated: 53,822

Deaths >50 group:

Fully vaxxed (80% of the population): 50
Unvax (about 10% of the population: 38

If the unvaccinated deaths are 38 out of 53,822 unvaccinated infections.
And there are 50 deaths attributed to vaxxed infections.
That's 88 deaths.
Hypothetically taking the total number of cases 92,029 as not at all
vaccinated. And rounding that off at 100,000 then rounding the 88
deaths to 100. What did I do wrong? It looks to me like about 100
deaths will occur per 100,000 unvaccinated infections.
If there were no vaccine? What am I missing partner?

What you are missing is that almost all the deaths are in the >50 demographic. The >50 demographic is almost fully vaccinated, making the number of deaths higher, but the risk MUCH lower in the Vax group. In fact there are 0 deaths in the vaccinated

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: IAMTAT

They will have to discredit Dr. Malone now. His credentials are incomparable, he's not afraid to speak out...and he goes against the narrative.

I'm sure they're already hard at work to bring him down and shut him up.

So it seems he was involved in this technology back in the late 1980s, but there is not much info on him...not even a Wiki page and so what he says is pretty much based on just him saying he invented. I'm not saying he is right or wrong, but there really isn't anything out there about him to back anything up. He was also around the age of low 20ish and being at UC Davis then we are talking aboiut back when he was a grad student and "he" invented it all as a grad student??? Or was he involved as a grad student typically is... It also seems he has not been involved with any of it after being a grad student, so that is another 30+ years he was not there working or connected in the testing of mRNA.

I do agree with one statement he made "there isn't enough data yet to add all age groups". I have said that those under 40 should not take it too.

RW Malone MD, LLC
CEO and Principal Consultant: 2001-Present

Dr. Malone has been involved in developing, designing, and providing oversight of approximately forty
phase-1 clinical trials and twenty phase-2 clinical trials, as well as five phase 3 clinical trials. He has served
as medical director/medical monitor on approximately forty phase-1 clinical trials, and on twenty phase-2
clinical trials, including those run at vaccine-focused Clinical Research Organizations. He has served as
principal investigator on some of these. Providing business development, proposal management, clinical
trials development, expert witness, regulatory and medical affairs support for pharmaceutical, vaccinesrelated and biologics companies as well as related regulatory submissions including pIND and IND.

Projects include:
• Led a large team since January 10, 2020, focused on drug development, computer modeling and
mechanisms of action for COVID-19 and is now preparing a manuscript summarizing most recent
findings relating to famotidine and overall insights into the mechanism of COVID-19 disease.

• Accelerated COVID-19 Therapeutic Interventions and Vaccines:
ACTIV Therapeutics Clinical Working Group, NIH. Invited Participant. June, 2020-present.

• Clinical trials protocol development: Developed and wrote initial clinical trial design: A Single
Center, Randomized, Double Blinded Controlled Crossover Observational Outpatient Trial of the
Safety and Efficacy of Oral Famotidine for the Treatment of COVID-19 in Non-Hospitalized
Symptomatic Adults.

• Proposed is a DOMANE/WRAIR joint development and performance of outpatient clinical trial
designed to test new monitoring and data capture technology while using COVID19 as a live-fire
example.

• Opening IND for famotidine use for treatment and prevention of COVID19 disease with associated
drug master file.
• Principal Regulatory Consultant, Clinical Network Services (CNS)/Novotech, 2018-2019.
Regulatory, clinical and business development support.
• Served as an expert witness with specialized training, 2017 - present.
• Ebola vaccine project for NewLink/Bioprotection Systems (rVSVdG ZEBOV Ebola vaccine
project), resulting in well over 100M USD non-dilutive capital to NL/BPS. This also included
working with the World Health Organization as well as initial set up of the licensing deal to Merck
Vaccines of the Ebola vaccine.
• Served as Medical Director, Beardsworth, half time position on retainer, 2010 – 2013.
• Service on federal biotechnology/vaccines proposal study sections (multiple).
• Served as Editor-In-Chief of Journal of Immune Based Therapies and Vaccines 2007-2012
• Service on Safety Monitoring Committee, Phase 1 safety/immunogenicity of novel Influenza
vaccine
• Consulting support for multiple vaccine-focused clinical sites in US and Latin America.
• Served as Medical Director, Vaccines with Accelovance, Inc. (2008 – 2009).
• Served as medical monitor for multiple seasonal and pandemic (H1N1) studies.
• Review and edit clinical protocols.Robert W. Malone, MD, MS
5
• Examples of multi-year contract clients include Accelovance, Alchem Laboratories, Avancer,
Beardsworth, Chesapeake Perl, Corium, DOAR, ITS, ITT-Exelis, EpiVax, Jean Brown Research,
Opgen, Quest Diagnostics (Focus), PaxVax, SAI, Soligenix, TASC, Univ of MA.
• Commercial intelligence work for two of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the world (subcontractor).
• Partnering with Galloway and Associates (Darrell Galloway) 2012-2014.
• Acting as Managing Director, Clinical Development and Government Affairs for the Avancer
Group. April 2012 – 2016.
• Proposal development (patch-based vaccine delivery, Tularemia vaccine, CDC contract for clinical
trials site development, international government and NGO contract and grant solicitations) – Aeras
Global TB Vaccine Foundation 2003-2005.
• Proposal development (plague vaccine- HHS), Technical diligence – VaxGen Corporation.
• Consulting services for EpiVax, 2005-2018 (member, Scientific Advisory Board), 2020.
• Consulting services for Aldevron, LLC.
2001-2005 (operating as Gene Delivery Alliance).
• Business and proposal development in the areas of Bioinformatics and Life Sciences (including
telemedicine) and research at the University of Bern, Switzerland.
• Consulting services for Molecular Histology, Inc. with the title of Medical Director.
• Collaboration with Inovio, including incorporation of company in the USA.
• Consulting services for MSD, Inc. for business/ technology development planning.

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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: fotsyfots
a reply to: ScepticScot
OK. So using the same reporting traits we've only ever had 1 instance of Flu, originating circa year 247 AD (?)[approx.]

Should it ever magically reappear we can expect the MSM talking heads to inform us on the news....." the Flu virus has to date claimed 79.6521 Trillion & number of cases has reached 54 million trillion( obviously plucked numbers) " can we ?

Exactly how many individual standards or "norms" or usual practices or time tested methods have to smack you in the face until you would pause, take breath & open mindedly apply logic &/or critical thinking to this greatest feat of mass manipulation & pure evil ?
Your favourite number wouldn't be 77 by any chance ?

Yes I you want to make up stuff, as you just did, it's remarkably easy to construct whatever conspiracy theory takes your fancy.

It's a good bit harder when you have to deal with reality.

Nice sidestep. You realize you unwittingly proved my point in a way? The MSM are stating big scary numbers (5mil.-ish) on a virus that they started doing a running total over 18 months ago. Believe me, I have no desire to "make stuff up", unlike certain globalists & their fanboys/girls/fluids/cysts whatever. But that & the other multiple " recording discrepancies, overcounts & later quiet corrections, etc. to name a few unique to covid actions sits perfectly fine to you?

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: IAMTAT

They will have to discredit Dr. Malone now. His credentials are incomparable, he's not afraid to speak out...and he goes against the narrative.

I'm sure they're already hard at work to bring him down and shut him up.

So it seems he was involved in this technology back in the late 1980s, but there is not much info on him...not even a Wiki page and so what he says is pretty much based on just him saying he invented. I'm not saying he is right or wrong, but there really isn't anything out there about him to back anything up. He was also around the age of low 20ish and being at UC Davis then we are talking aboiut back when he was a grad student and "he" invented it all as a grad student??? Or was he involved as a grad student typically is... It also seems he has not been involved with any of it after being a grad student, so that is another 30+ years he was not there working or connected in the testing of mRNA.

I do agree with one statement he made "there isn't enough data yet to add all age groups". I have said that those under 40 should not take it too.

RW Malone MD, LLC
CEO and Principal Consultant: 2001-Present

Dr. Malone has been involved in developing, designing, and providing oversight of approximately forty
phase-1 clinical trials and twenty phase-2 clinical trials, as well as five phase 3 clinical trials. He has served
as medical director/medical monitor on approximately forty phase-1 clinical trials, and on twenty phase-2
clinical trials, including those run at vaccine-focused Clinical Research Organizations. He has served as
principal investigator on some of these. Providing business development, proposal management, clinical
trials development, expert witness, regulatory and medical affairs support for pharmaceutical, vaccinesrelated and biologics companies as well as related regulatory submissions including pIND and IND.

Projects include:
• Led a large team since January 10, 2020, focused on drug development, computer modeling and
mechanisms of action for COVID-19 and is now preparing a manuscript summarizing most recent
findings relating to famotidine and overall insights into the mechanism of COVID-19 disease.

• Accelerated COVID-19 Therapeutic Interventions and Vaccines:
ACTIV Therapeutics Clinical Working Group, NIH. Invited Participant. June, 2020-present.

• Clinical trials protocol development: Developed and wrote initial clinical trial design: A Single
Center, Randomized, Double Blinded Controlled Crossover Observational Outpatient Trial of the
Safety and Efficacy of Oral Famotidine for the Treatment of COVID-19 in Non-Hospitalized
Symptomatic Adults.

• Proposed is a DOMANE/WRAIR joint development and performance of outpatient clinical trial
designed to test new monitoring and data capture technology while using COVID19 as a live-fire
example.

• Opening IND for famotidine use for treatment and prevention of COVID19 disease with associated
drug master file.
• Principal Regulatory Consultant, Clinical Network Services (CNS)/Novotech, 2018-2019.
Regulatory, clinical and business development support.
• Served as an expert witness with specialized training, 2017 - present.
• Ebola vaccine project for NewLink/Bioprotection Systems (rVSVdG ZEBOV Ebola vaccine
project), resulting in well over 100M USD non-dilutive capital to NL/BPS. This also included
working with the World Health Organization as well as initial set up of the licensing deal to Merck
Vaccines of the Ebola vaccine.
• Served as Medical Director, Beardsworth, half time position on retainer, 2010 – 2013.
• Service on federal biotechnology/vaccines proposal study sections (multiple).
• Served as Editor-In-Chief of Journal of Immune Based Therapies and Vaccines 2007-2012
• Service on Safety Monitoring Committee, Phase 1 safety/immunogenicity of novel Influenza
vaccine
• Consulting support for multiple vaccine-focused clinical sites in US and Latin America.
• Served as Medical Director, Vaccines with Accelovance, Inc. (2008 – 2009).
• Served as medical monitor for multiple seasonal and pandemic (H1N1) studies.
• Review and edit clinical protocols.Robert W. Malone, MD, MS
5
• Examples of multi-year contract clients include Accelovance, Alchem Laboratories, Avancer,
Beardsworth, Chesapeake Perl, Corium, DOAR, ITS, ITT-Exelis, EpiVax, Jean Brown Research,
Opgen, Quest Diagnostics (Focus), PaxVax, SAI, Soligenix, TASC, Univ of MA.
• Commercial intelligence work for two of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the world (subcontractor).
• Partnering with Galloway and Associates (Darrell Galloway) 2012-2014.
• Acting as Managing Director, Clinical Development and Government Affairs for the Avancer
Group. April 2012 – 2016.
• Proposal development (patch-based vaccine delivery, Tularemia vaccine, CDC contract for clinical
trials site development, international government and NGO contract and grant solicitations) – Aeras
Global TB Vaccine Foundation 2003-2005.
• Proposal development (plague vaccine- HHS), Technical diligence – VaxGen Corporation.
• Consulting services for EpiVax, 2005-2018 (member, Scientific Advisory Board), 2020.
• Consulting services for Aldevron, LLC.
2001-2005 (operating as Gene Delivery Alliance).
• Business and proposal development in the areas of Bioinformatics and Life Sciences (including
telemedicine) and research at the University of Bern, Switzerland.
• Consulting services for Molecular Histology, Inc. with the title of Medical Director.
• Collaboration with Inovio, including incorporation of company in the USA.
• Consulting services for MSD, Inc. for business/ technology development planning.

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WOW ! only thing missing there is * mic. drop *......boom !

originally posted by: fotsyfots

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: fotsyfots
a reply to: ScepticScot
OK. So using the same reporting traits we've only ever had 1 instance of Flu, originating circa year 247 AD (?)[approx.]

Should it ever magically reappear we can expect the MSM talking heads to inform us on the news....." the Flu virus has to date claimed 79.6521 Trillion & number of cases has reached 54 million trillion( obviously plucked numbers) " can we ?

Exactly how many individual standards or "norms" or usual practices or time tested methods have to smack you in the face until you would pause, take breath & open mindedly apply logic &/or critical thinking to this greatest feat of mass manipulation & pure evil ?
Your favourite number wouldn't be 77 by any chance ?

Yes I you want to make up stuff, as you just did, it's remarkably easy to construct whatever conspiracy theory takes your fancy.

It's a good bit harder when you have to deal with reality.

Nice sidestep. You realize you unwittingly proved my point in a way? The MSM are stating big scary numbers (5mil.-ish) on a virus that they started doing a running total over 18 months ago. Believe me, I have no desire to "make stuff up", unlike certain globalists & their fanboys/girls/fluids/cysts whatever. But that & the other multiple " recording discrepancies, overcounts & later quiet corrections, etc. to name a few unique to covid actions sits perfectly fine to you?

No side step required. You asked for numbers then started making up outlandish hypotheticals.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Is a squarespace page written by the doctor himself a good source?

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: IAMTAT

Is a squarespace page written by the doctor himself a good source?

Are you suggesting Dr. Malone is lying about his credentials?
If so...why?

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: IAMTAT

Is a squarespace page written by the doctor himself a good source?

Are you suggesting Dr. Malone is lying about his credentials?
If so...why?

Just curious to what the acceptable level of bias from a source is?

Saying that his claim to have invented mrna vaccines seems to be, lets say unverified at the moment.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: IAMTAT

Is a squarespace page written by the doctor himself a good source?

Are you suggesting Dr. Malone is lying about his credentials?
If so...why?

Just curious to what the acceptable level of bias from a source is?

Saying that his claim to have invented mrna vaccines seems to be, lets say unverified at the moment.

US Patent office considered unbiased enough for you?

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