UK Official Covid Vaccine Report More Vaxxed Dying of Delta Than Unvaxxed

a reply to: AaarghZombies

I don't know where you got 8 maybe more like 100?

I'm just guessing at maths but I'm good at grammars.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: dragonridr

That doesn't really matter you have to get funding from somewhere for research. What matters is the research papers and if they will hold up to scrutiny. Peer review will tear apart bias in their research.

Do you mean like all those peer reviewed papers by researchers from all over the world stating the virus started in China, but China complained including by claiming "racism" and those papers were not accepted? Yet now we know those papers were right. The virus started in China, and not in a market but in a military lab.

Except the "evidence" for this comes from several unnamed intelligence sources and a rumor that three people in the lab got sick.

Unnamed intelligence sources are notoriously bad. Just look at the sources for WMD in Iraq, and the scientists in the lab all spent time in close proximity to the wet market.

It's just as possible that the wet market contaminated the lab, not vice versa.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

If no one got vaccinated don't the numbers show 100 deaths per
100,000 cases?

I'm asking with apologies.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Actually the strongest evidence is China's destruction and suppression of evidence.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Realtruth

so vaxed people have a 4 times higher chance to die if they get delta

Remember that Correlation does not imply Causation. It is the hardest thing to figure out and what is mostly screwed up.

You know what? This comment is really stupid.

All of a sudden, healthy young teenagers are dying from heart attacks, and getting myocarditis. The common thing amongst them all is that they were all “fully vaccinated.” It is absolutely idiotic to say that it’s hard to figure out what caused those issues.

BA had 4 pilots die in the space of a week. They were all completely healthy. Pilots are some of the most medically monitored people on the planet. All four had recently been “fully vaccinated.” It is absolutely idiotic to say it’s hard to figure out what caused their deaths.

I am so sick of you and others like you and your idiotic brainwashed comments. Why in the world are you shilling for the drug companies and corrupt government? Seriously- why??

Looking forward to your answers, because I truly don’t understand. You are either brainwashed, or stupid. To keep making comments like yours in the face of all of the evidence implies brainwashing or retardation.

You might want to reading the thread on the pilots before insulting others.

One pilot had been longterm ill and another died in an accident.

The brainwashed are those pushing idiotic conspiracy theorues they watched on bitchute or similar.

Agh, now you seem to be the perfect person to ask this question of.
When will tptb apply the same " goal posts " to the accumalation of recording numbers catching this " virus " the same as they do for 'Flu'. Why do you think this flu-like virus that is seasonally effected , constantly travelling the globe morphing into different strains ( wonder why flu comes back around as a new strain & yet this has "varients" ) hasn't had a " seasonal " time frame applied to it in regards to all the associated numbers ( deaths, cases,infections etc. ) ?
Perhaps it may have something to do with the vastly different picture that would emerge & the decreasing ability to constantly bombard the public with incessant fear porn that has driven this agenda from the get go, should seasons be applied.
Thoughts ?

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: dragonridr

That doesn't really matter you have to get funding from somewhere for research. What matters is the research papers and if they will hold up to scrutiny. Peer review will tear apart bias in their research.

Do you mean like all those peer reviewed papers by researchers from all over the world stating the virus started in China, but China complained including by claiming "racism" and those papers were not accepted? Yet now we know those papers were right. The virus started in China, and not in a market but in a military lab.

Except the "evidence" for this comes from several unnamed intelligence sources and a rumor that three people in the lab got sick.

Unnamed intelligence sources are notoriously bad. Just look at the sources for WMD in Iraq, and the scientists in the lab all spent time in close proximity to the wet market.

It's just as possible that the wet market contaminated the lab, not vice versa.

Also just as possible that it leaked or was enlivened from Fort Detrick in the US that has an atrocious history of breaching safety protocols.
Also just as possible that it was escorted to WUHAN, knowingly or not by 1 of the nations participating in the Military games held in Wuhan just prior to this kicking off.

originally posted by: fotsyfots

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Realtruth

so vaxed people have a 4 times higher chance to die if they get delta

Remember that Correlation does not imply Causation. It is the hardest thing to figure out and what is mostly screwed up.

You know what? This comment is really stupid.

All of a sudden, healthy young teenagers are dying from heart attacks, and getting myocarditis. The common thing amongst them all is that they were all “fully vaccinated.” It is absolutely idiotic to say that it’s hard to figure out what caused those issues.

BA had 4 pilots die in the space of a week. They were all completely healthy. Pilots are some of the most medically monitored people on the planet. All four had recently been “fully vaccinated.” It is absolutely idiotic to say it’s hard to figure out what caused their deaths.

I am so sick of you and others like you and your idiotic brainwashed comments. Why in the world are you shilling for the drug companies and corrupt government? Seriously- why??

Looking forward to your answers, because I truly don’t understand. You are either brainwashed, or stupid. To keep making comments like yours in the face of all of the evidence implies brainwashing or retardation.

You might want to reading the thread on the pilots before insulting others.

One pilot had been longterm ill and another died in an accident.

The brainwashed are those pushing idiotic conspiracy theorues they watched on bitchute or similar.

Agh, now you seem to be the perfect person to ask this question of.
When will tptb apply the same " goal posts " to the accumalation of recording numbers catching this " virus " the same as they do for 'Flu'. Why do you think this flu-like virus that is seasonally effected , constantly travelling the globe morphing into different strains ( wonder why flu comes back around as a new strain & yet this has "varients" ) hasn't had a " seasonal " time frame applied to it in regards to all the associated numbers ( deaths, cases,infections etc. ) ?
Perhaps it may have something to do with the vastly different picture that would emerge & the decreasing ability to constantly bombard the public with incessant fear porn that has driven this agenda from the get go, should seasons be applied.
Thoughts ?

Not sure I understand your point. It has been widely acknowledged that there are peak periods for covid.

Regardless if you look at the numbers monthly, quarterly or annually the numbers are way higher than even a bad flu season.

a reply to: Randyvine2

In America we don't care what happens in English.

Clearly.

a reply to: ScepticScot

I wonder if bike clubs in Scotland like the Hells Angels
are experiencing the same percentage of cases as they
are over here? And do the Scottish Hells Angels use an
apostrophe for the word hells on their patch? I'm
assuming no.

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: ScepticScot

I wonder if bike clubs in Scotland like the Hells Angels
are experiencing the same percentage of cases as they
are over here? And do the Scottish Hells Angels use an
apostrophe for the word hells on their patch? I'm
assuming no.

Interestingly

Scotland remains one of the few countries in Europe without a Hells Angels chapter.

en.m.wikipedia.org...

Not seen anything about case numbers for bikers.

originally posted by: Sparkymedic

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Realtruth
a reply to: ScepticScot


so quick math:

27.192 delta cases with vax, 68 deaths, 0.25% death rate

53.822 delta cases non vaxed, 38 deaths, 0.07% death rate


so vaxed people have a 4 times higher chance to die if they get delta

As 80%+ adults have had at least 1 shot your numbers would suggest that non vaccinated are getting covid at about 8x the rate of vaccinated and therefore more likely to die.

Or vaccinated are far less likely to even get symptoms so don't get tested.

That doesn't take into account the relative demographic of who has been vaccinated which would suggest the vaccine is even more effective.

Oh look, it's the village idiot/ troll.

Anyway...

www.thelancet.com...

Pfizer Relative Risk Reduction is 95%.

But that doesn't take into account the overall background risks as the RRR only reports those who benefit from the vaccine.

Unlike the Absoloute Risk Reduction, which considers ALL background risks and gives a real world picture of effectiveness.

The Pfizer Absoloute Risk Reduction is 0.84%.

Essentially, the vaccines do FU#K ALL to protect anyone from anything. Same as masks. Same as 2m distancing. ALL BULLSH!T.

But hey, if you want to line up and be part of the experiment...have at it! I wouldn't even consider stopping you from getting a jab or wearing a mask or being isolated. You do you. But like any religion...don't push your belief system on myself or anyone else.

If this was truly a deadly pandemic then we wouldn't need the governments PR campaigns to convince us...it would be obvious. But that's just not the reality, is it.

Instead, it's a very contagious, hardly lethal virus which is endemic and super destructive to the global economy due to moron politicians.

4 pages in & the slam dunk to all this b/s deliberate fudging of numbers/stats.

To all you sheep parroting the 95% effective rate that the producer of the damn junk claims from it's own in house testing, how exactly do you rationalize that claim ? So you've got 100 people that don't have virus & next check 5 have it , is that how the 95% results ?
Even more illogical is the claim ( again by it's producers & just accepted ) that it prevents death or serious symptoms & yet the vast majority of those inflicted neither died or had serious symptoms.

Say you're vaxxed & yet apparently still catch the virus. ( I imagine that would dent the wisdom of choice for starters).
Yet you neither die nor need ICU. How exactly can you show that it was this junk's 95% efficacy rate & not simply how it would've been regardless ?

To be fair this has all involved the biggest by far psychological manipulation programs conducted on the public in all of living history. But ffs just rationally research this info. yourselves & you will plainly see the utter deception that abounds on so many levels it's preposterous .

a reply to: glen200376
I was going to say something very similar to his snopes "fact check" 😂😂😂😂

a reply to: ScepticScot

Are you kidding me? Well hand me my ass will ya? I thought for sure
I seen that patch.

originally posted by: fotsyfots

originally posted by: Sparkymedic

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Realtruth
a reply to: ScepticScot


so quick math:

27.192 delta cases with vax, 68 deaths, 0.25% death rate

53.822 delta cases non vaxed, 38 deaths, 0.07% death rate


so vaxed people have a 4 times higher chance to die if they get delta

As 80%+ adults have had at least 1 shot your numbers would suggest that non vaccinated are getting covid at about 8x the rate of vaccinated and therefore more likely to die.

Or vaccinated are far less likely to even get symptoms so don't get tested.

That doesn't take into account the relative demographic of who has been vaccinated which would suggest the vaccine is even more effective.

Oh look, it's the village idiot/ troll.

Anyway...

www.thelancet.com...

Pfizer Relative Risk Reduction is 95%.

But that doesn't take into account the overall background risks as the RRR only reports those who benefit from the vaccine.

Unlike the Absoloute Risk Reduction, which considers ALL background risks and gives a real world picture of effectiveness.

The Pfizer Absoloute Risk Reduction is 0.84%.

Essentially, the vaccines do FU#K ALL to protect anyone from anything. Same as masks. Same as 2m distancing. ALL BULLSH!T.

But hey, if you want to line up and be part of the experiment...have at it! I wouldn't even consider stopping you from getting a jab or wearing a mask or being isolated. You do you. But like any religion...don't push your belief system on myself or anyone else.

If this was truly a deadly pandemic then we wouldn't need the governments PR campaigns to convince us...it would be obvious. But that's just not the reality, is it.

Instead, it's a very contagious, hardly lethal virus which is endemic and super destructive to the global economy due to moron politicians.

4 pages in & the slam dunk to all this b/s deliberate fudging of numbers/stats.

To all you sheep parroting the 95% effective rate that the producer of the damn junk claims from it's own in house testing, how exactly do you rationalize that claim ? So you've got 100 people that don't have virus & next check 5 have it , is that how the 95% results ?
Even more illogical is the claim ( again by it's producers & just accepted ) that it prevents death or serious symptoms & yet the vast majority of those inflicted neither died or had serious symptoms.

Say you're vaxxed & yet apparently still catch the virus. ( I imagine that would dent the wisdom of choice for starters).
Yet you neither die nor need ICU. How exactly can you show that it was this junk's 95% efficacy rate & not simply how it would've been regardless ?

To be fair this has all involved the biggest by far psychological manipulation programs conducted on the public in all of living history. But ffs just rationally research this info. yourselves & you will plainly see the utter deception that abounds on so many levels it's preposterous .

That's not what vaccine efficacy means.

It the reduction in cases between the pilot and control population.

95% efficacy means there were 20x more cases in the control group.

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: ScepticScot

Are you kidding me? Well hand me my ass will ya? I thought for sure
I seen that patch.

Probably people who wear the gear, but not official members.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: fotsyfots

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Realtruth

so vaxed people have a 4 times higher chance to die if they get delta

Remember that Correlation does not imply Causation. It is the hardest thing to figure out and what is mostly screwed up.

You know what? This comment is really stupid.

All of a sudden, healthy young teenagers are dying from heart attacks, and getting myocarditis. The common thing amongst them all is that they were all “fully vaccinated.” It is absolutely idiotic to say that it’s hard to figure out what caused those issues.

BA had 4 pilots die in the space of a week. They were all completely healthy. Pilots are some of the most medically monitored people on the planet. All four had recently been “fully vaccinated.” It is absolutely idiotic to say it’s hard to figure out what caused their deaths.

I am so sick of you and others like you and your idiotic brainwashed comments. Why in the world are you shilling for the drug companies and corrupt government? Seriously- why??

Looking forward to your answers, because I truly don’t understand. You are either brainwashed, or stupid. To keep making comments like yours in the face of all of the evidence implies brainwashing or retardation.

You might want to reading the thread on the pilots before insulting others.

One pilot had been longterm ill and another died in an accident.

The brainwashed are those pushing idiotic conspiracy theorues they watched on bitchute or similar.

Agh, now you seem to be the perfect person to ask this question of.
When will tptb apply the same " goal posts " to the accumalation of recording numbers catching this " virus " the same as they do for 'Flu'. Why do you think this flu-like virus that is seasonally effected , constantly travelling the globe morphing into different strains ( wonder why flu comes back around as a new strain & yet this has "varients" ) hasn't had a " seasonal " time frame applied to it in regards to all the associated numbers ( deaths, cases,infections etc. ) ?
Perhaps it may have something to do with the vastly different picture that would emerge & the decreasing ability to constantly bombard the public with incessant fear porn that has driven this agenda from the get go, should seasons be applied.
Thoughts ?

Not sure I understand your point. It has been widely acknowledged that there are peak periods for covid.

Regardless if you look at the numbers monthly, quarterly or annually the numbers are way higher than even a bad flu season.

I mean this has been ongoing for some 18months or so so why did the " body count " not start again after 12 months ?

Regardless, I'd " look at the numbers monthly, quarterly or annually the numbers are way higher than even a bad flu season." that you speak of .

a reply to: ScepticScot

No you're right! It must be because of the apostrophe?

originally posted by: fotsyfots

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: fotsyfots

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Realtruth

so vaxed people have a 4 times higher chance to die if they get delta

Remember that Correlation does not imply Causation. It is the hardest thing to figure out and what is mostly screwed up.

You know what? This comment is really stupid.

All of a sudden, healthy young teenagers are dying from heart attacks, and getting myocarditis. The common thing amongst them all is that they were all “fully vaccinated.” It is absolutely idiotic to say that it’s hard to figure out what caused those issues.

BA had 4 pilots die in the space of a week. They were all completely healthy. Pilots are some of the most medically monitored people on the planet. All four had recently been “fully vaccinated.” It is absolutely idiotic to say it’s hard to figure out what caused their deaths.

I am so sick of you and others like you and your idiotic brainwashed comments. Why in the world are you shilling for the drug companies and corrupt government? Seriously- why??

Looking forward to your answers, because I truly don’t understand. You are either brainwashed, or stupid. To keep making comments like yours in the face of all of the evidence implies brainwashing or retardation.

You might want to reading the thread on the pilots before insulting others.

One pilot had been longterm ill and another died in an accident.

The brainwashed are those pushing idiotic conspiracy theorues they watched on bitchute or similar.

Agh, now you seem to be the perfect person to ask this question of.
When will tptb apply the same " goal posts " to the accumalation of recording numbers catching this " virus " the same as they do for 'Flu'. Why do you think this flu-like virus that is seasonally effected , constantly travelling the globe morphing into different strains ( wonder why flu comes back around as a new strain & yet this has "varients" ) hasn't had a " seasonal " time frame applied to it in regards to all the associated numbers ( deaths, cases,infections etc. ) ?
Perhaps it may have something to do with the vastly different picture that would emerge & the decreasing ability to constantly bombard the public with incessant fear porn that has driven this agenda from the get go, should seasons be applied.
Thoughts ?

Not sure I understand your point. It has been widely acknowledged that there are peak periods for covid.

Regardless if you look at the numbers monthly, quarterly or annually the numbers are way higher than even a bad flu season.

I mean this has been ongoing for some 18months or so so why did the " body count " not start again after 12 months ?

Regardless, I'd " look at the numbers monthly, quarterly or annually the numbers are way higher than even a bad flu season." that you speak of .

In the UK at least numbers are reported as granular as weekly.

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: ScepticScot

No you're right! It must be because of the apostrophe?

Looked it up and apparently the official explanation is there are many hells so lack of apostrophe is correct.

I am are not going to argue with them...

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: angelchemuel
Episode 221 where Dr Malone is interviewed. He is the pioneer of the mRNA vaccine.
Fast forward to 52 minute mark and have a listen.
Dr Malone, pioneer of mRNA vaccine

Rainbows
Jane

They will have to discredit Dr. Malone now. His credentials are incomparable, he's not afraid to speak out...and he goes against the narrative.

I'm sure they're already hard at work to bring him down and shut him up.

Having spent 20 minutes ranting on Bitchute about something that's already been debunked, usually negates the need to discredit you.

Does it?
So you now consider Dr. Malone discredited?