Some more Vaccine side effect stuff

a reply to: 727Sky

I am surprised lordahriman hasn’t chimed in yet about how his whole family got covid and all suffered horribly

originally posted by: BlankUsername
a reply to: 727Sky

I am surprised lordahriman hasn’t chimed in yet about how his whole family got covid and all suffered horribly

I think somebody has a crush on me.

Again, 3 family members got really sick from it. 3. Why is that so hard to believe?

a reply to: LordAhriman

Hey , there you are, morning sunshine

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: BlankUsername
a reply to: 727Sky

I am surprised lordahriman hasn’t chimed in yet about how his whole family got covid and all suffered horribly

I think somebody has a crush on me.

Again, 3 family members got really sick from it. 3. Why is that so hard to believe?

And you are an anomaly. Must be bad genes. But I suppose with a manufactured virus, it would target some aspect that would be hereditary. You may want to wear a mask wherever you go, and be sure your family does the same. Probably forever, just to be safe.

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
So how do you explain the millions, like myself, who have received the vaccine, but who have suffered NO side effects (just to note, I've had a complete physical, my annual check-up actually, since receiving my second dose) other than the expected mild reactions, which in my case, lasted less than 48 hours?

Either I got the "good stuff", while all your "horror stories" were "targeted" with an arm-load of "poison"; or they got the real vaccine, and I got...something else.

By an extension of your "reasoning", some of us have been selected to thrive, and some to wither.

that's just it, we can't. It's an experimental vaccine (several of them) and long term effects are completely unknown. Rather than hide any stories about adverse reactions, they should be logged and studied so we know what the negative aspects may be.

have you ever heard the disclaimer at the end of a pharma add? They all have them and they all list the "possible side effects", up to and including death.

But hide the "horror stories" and see where that leads. it's likely the direction this will go.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: chr0naut
Have you heard of Dr Robert W Malone?

But if he was so against mRNA vaccines and specifically the spike protein created through mRNA, Why did he go and get vaccinated with the Moderna vaccine?

Re: Dr Robert W Malone...
Dr. Malone was asked this in a recent interview.

He said early on he took it because he had to be able to travel for work.
Regretting the choice after he began researching the "vaccine".

a reply to: 727Sky

Ok, may I say? The 3-5% of anything is really bad...but is outweighed by the millions upon millions....without any ....

This is the reality. Not 100, 1,000...even if 10,000....its nothing...zero....against
the total.

Ive spent 20 yrs University of Michigan Medical Center...and 35 total City, D.H.S., FEMA...

Every issue..every one....will have some negative numbers...but they are paltry against the total.

And thats reality.

a reply to: Night Star
Unless you call us to take you to Emergency...and you HAVE to get it.

Sign and end-of-life agreement...and we'll just let you die ...

Just, think about it

originally posted by: network dude
And you are an anomaly. Must be bad genes. But I suppose with a manufactured virus, it would target some aspect that would be hereditary. You may want to wear a mask wherever you go, and be sure your family does the same. Probably forever, just to be safe.

No I'm not an anomaly lol. My family is huge, and spans over 4 countries that I know of. I'm only blood related to two of them who got really sick, the other is my wife's cousin. I'm in good shape, and my daughters handled it quite well so I think I'll be okay. I no longer wear a mask, nor have I ever cared if I got covid. In fact I wanted to get it and get it over with from the very beginning.

I don't know why my family was brought up in a thread about vaccines though, so I'll duck out so as not to derail the thread. Again, I think he has a crush on me.

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
So how do you explain the millions, like myself, who have received the vaccine, but who have suffered NO side effects (just to note, I've had a complete physical, my annual check-up actually, since receiving my second dose) other than the expected mild reactions, which in my case, lasted less than 48 hours?

Either I got the "good stuff", while all your "horror stories" were "targeted" with an arm-load of "poison"; or they got the real vaccine, and I got...something else.

By an extension of your "reasoning", some of us have been selected to thrive, and some to wither.

My friend, I do not discount your experience. And, I believe it is effective in minimizing symptoms; representing science's most technologically advanced approach toward mitigating the virus. I'm simply stating that the observed AEs are underreported and/or not deemed attributable to dosing.

Even if you took the existing AEs deemed 'possibly related to vaccination', it presents cause for concern. Surely, even those have been safely vaccinated have to breath a sign of relief after hearing about all of these 'coincidental' outcomes. Compound that with reports of censorship? Solid reason to pause and give it a more critical eye

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
So how do you explain the millions, like myself, who have received the vaccine, but who have suffered NO side effects (just to note, I've had a complete physical, my annual check-up actually, since receiving my second dose) other than the expected mild reactions, which in my case, lasted less than 48 hours?

Either I got the "good stuff", while all your "horror stories" were "targeted" with an arm-load of "poison"; or they got the real vaccine, and I got...something else.

By an extension of your "reasoning", some of us have been selected to thrive, and some to wither.

What the hell is the matter with you?
Because you were ok everyone else must be ok?
Note to self-Mantiss is an imbecile.

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: Night Star
Unless you call us to take you to Emergency...and you HAVE to get it.

Sign and end-of-life agreement...and we'll just let you die ...

Just, think about it

And you are proud of that?
so someone needs an ambulance and is in need of emergency treatment and you waste time asking to see proof of vaccination against a pishy coronavirus?
You think that's ok?
You are a disgrace to your profession.

a reply to: glen200376

Agreed, I was pretty chilled by reading that comment. I imagine one may get fairly inured to suffering in such a profession, and that some emts may lack empathy, but gloating about having the power of life or death over another person (and a beloved member of our community, at that) is awful

a reply to: network dude

Actually, when I received my first dose, along with a list of the expected possible side effects and warnings about serious side effects for which I should seek immediate medical attention, I was given an invitation/instruction sheet to register with, I believe the CDC. The stated intent of that registration was to allow them to contact me, directly, over the next several weeks/months to track my experience and the development of any unexpected or unusually long lasting side effects from the vaccine.

I'm somewhat ashamed to admit that I never followed through on that part of the "program", inasmuch as I did not experience any unusual side effects and really did not relish the idea of multiple phone interviews over the coming weeks/months.

As previously pointed out, unlike traditional vaccines, this vaccine works differently: instead of using a sample of the actual disease-causing virus, which for safety has been (supposedly, hopefully) killed (or at least, weakened to the point of non-infectiousness), this mRNA-based vaccine just uses a replica of a feature of the virus, not any form of the virus itself, to trigger the bodies immune response.

As I understand it, it is kind of like instead of sending someone a defused bomb in the mail, you send them a picture of a bomb and tell them to be on the lookout for anything similar.

Seems to me to be a safer approach to immunization, overall; far less likely to get a "bad batch" of a vaccine that contains an insufficiently weakened virus, or worse, an still living virus.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
So how do you explain the millions, like myself, who have received the vaccine, but who have suffered NO side effects (just to note, I've had a complete physical, my annual check-up actually, since receiving my second dose) other than the expected mild reactions, which in my case, lasted less than 48 hours?

Either I got the "good stuff", while all your "horror stories" were "targeted" with an arm-load of "poison"; or they got the real vaccine, and I got...something else.

By an extension of your "reasoning", some of us have been selected to thrive, and some to wither.

...It's an experimental vaccine (several of them) and long term effects are completely unknown. Rather than hide any stories about adverse reactions, they should be logged and studied so we know what the negative aspects may be.

That's an excellent idea. Maybe we could call it the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. Or something like that.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: BlankUsername
a reply to: 727Sky

I am surprised lordahriman hasn’t chimed in yet about how his whole family got covid and all suffered horribly

I think somebody has a crush on me.

Again, 3 family members got really sick from it. 3. Why is that so hard to believe?

And you are an anomaly. Must be bad genes. But I suppose with a manufactured virus, it would target some aspect that would be hereditary. …

Recent research suggests that there is almost certainly a genetic component to why some individuals get a lot sicker than others when they are infected with the coronavirus:

www.phgfoundation.org...

But that’s not surprising. There is a genetic component to the individual response to most infections, even the ones that happened long before anyone had the ability to manufacture viruses. A genetic component to infection response is not an indicator that the virus was manufactured.

a reply to: mysterioustranger

Eh mysterioustranger, could you please elaborate on your last post?

I'm thinking about it. Do you foresee the possibility of someone requiring an mrna vaccine becoming a necessity to receive emergency treatment at hospitals in your area? If so, what kind of timeframe are they looking at?

I hope I die before I get old.

only down hill from here.