Cultural Marxism, a Political Ideology or Conspiracy Theory?

No, it is apparent that the idea is for someone like you to say white trash blah blah blah, and for someone else to say N***** blah blah blah. Then that will start the hate, hate, hate stuff so we are fighting among ourselves. That is a formula any enemy of this country and western society would just love to see happen. Don't you agree an enemy would want that? Throw in the Marxist playbook for 100 years says to cause a divide among your enemies and WALA we have found the problem and it is ready to be solved.



a reply to: AaarghZombies

Just watched a great interview with a North Korean defector and she has a real way with words despite the imperfect English. I strongly agree with her sentiment about the US being the last front for free speech and liberty. Living outside the US allows me to see that fact even more clearly. If the US succumbs to this type of Cultural Marxism and self-loathing attitude which is being pushed in Universities, media, etc, the future we will end up in will be a dystopian dictatorship like something out of 1984 or Brave New World. We are already a good part of the way there.

At Columbia University every Professor was saying that the problems we have in today's world was because of white men. How they colonized Africa, Asia, they mess up everything, and they are the ones who are to blame. And I couldn't believe it, am I sitting in a North Korean class room or in America? I couldn't believe why people were hating their own people that much.

I thought I landed in a country where I can say what I believe and have my freedom to think. However now I live in a country where I have to constantly censor my speech. In the name of safe spaces Columbia University tells us what can talk about. And I am so concerned, if America is not free, I think there is no place else left that is free, and that's why it's really alarming to me.

My previous enemy was Kim Jong-un, I mean I have been on the killing list of Kim Jong-un for many years because I spoke out in the West about the North Korean people my family got punished. But now it's ironic that so many Marxists and Communists, Maoists, Leninists, are sending me death threats, and this is such an irony that I don't even know how to respond.

North Korea started as a communist country, it began as "lets make the most equal society in the world". Now the region has made 50 different classes based on your status, based on what your great-great-grandfather did. And when I went to Columbia that's when I was shocked, they said because your ancestors owned slaves then you must be guilty, you are previleged because you are white.

And this is injustice because you can never choose your ancestors, you don't choose your race. People in North Korea are being punished for being in a certain class, and in America the same thing is happening right now.

How willing to share are these infamous socialists such as AOC when it's their own money and if they really hate capitalism so much why do they gladly use corporations to get rich and brag about their wealth while their grandparents live in poverty? This is some of the most hypocritical behavior you will ever see. Envy and self-hatred never leads to anything positive, and it's sick how they are spreading this ideology throughout universities and causing young people to hate their own history and culture. Just earlier today I went onto Twitch while I ate lunch and there was some American person spewing anti-American rhetoric related to colonialism and other such nonsense. It's just sad that so many people are now growing up with this outlook on reality.



Here's an excerpt from a thread I wrote back in 2018:

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder

Clearly the more liberal nations like the UK and Australia are more civilized and evolved in their ideology. That must be why the U.S. has economically dominated the world for decades and does it with a fraction of the population that other super powers such as China have. Why would anyone like such uncivilized freedom loving people? It truly is a mystery why we all fawn over the movies and tv shows produced in the U.S.

Yes they must be complete idiots for respecting individualism instead of succumbing to collectivism and allowing the nanny state to strip them of all rights. Clearly more socialism and thought control is the way the human species will reach the next stage of enlightenment. Such conservative hill billies lack the brain cells to understand. That must be why the U.S. is the leading powerhouse of innovation and technological development.

Lets not forget how most Americans are intolerant and racist, that must be why they are ranked highest on the list of development aid country donors. Those filthy capitalist pigs clearly don't care about anyone besides themselves, all of their success comes down to their lack of remorse when they screw everyone else and has nothing to do with their intelligence or ideologies.

In Defense of The U.S.A.

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A Failed Ideology that Offers Nothing but Takes Everything..............

All governments have to take from the people and give nothing in return for most of what they take. The idea of
a Constitutional Republic is to minimize the Government so that the people prosper more easily as long as they can get along with each other. That getting along with each other is where our enemies are focusing. They own the news outlets and are boiling us in the pot and the temperature is going up now. We need to outthink these criminals.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: ChaoticOrder


A Failed Ideology that Offers Nothing but Takes Everything..............

a reply to: Justoneman


I Live in a Democratic Republic with Certain Inalienable Rights of a Free Man Guaranteed by the Constitution Of The United States . Where You From Oh Mincer of Words > ?

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

causing young people to hate their own history and culture.

Are you referring to the history of the USA? Or the force fed Euro-centric history that the last 300 some odd years was spread throughout the colonized world? Like Adam Smiths 'land of barter' talking about native American's as is they were unsocial savages swapping arrow heads for food and pelts? Which was actually used as a fact in economic text books for decades, until they realized, Smith just made it up.

See what's happening here? People have readily access to historical documents and facts now, times are changing. And your over the top Ayn Rand style objectivism lacks a sort of socialized morals and ethics. The "culture" that built the current state of affairs, had it coming.

a reply to: strongfp

I don't really give a crap about Smith or his bartering tales... stop being so obsessed with the past and using it as an excuse to judge people in the present. You claim my outlook is not socialist enough, perhaps that is true to some extent, but It's also true that your outlook on reality is not objective enough and is far too pessimistic for any reasonable person to take seriously. You remind of the person on Twitch ranting about colonialism and how much the West sucks.

Yeah we all know the West has done a lot of questionable things throughout history, started a lot of unnecessary wars, plundered resources from other nations, etc. But there are plenty of other nations which have committed atrocities, and most of them happen to be socialist/communist nations such as Russia, China, North Korea, etc. I would certainly much rather live in the West than any of those nations, the living standards and personal freedoms are much higher in the West.

At some point you have to move past this obsession with the past and realize that none of us control the conditions we are born into. I grew up in near poverty and my family constantly struggled, at no point did I feel "privileged" due to the color of my skin and it infuriates me when I hear racists making those claims. I judge a person purely on their character and not the color of their skin. I seek to form unity rather than stew in hatred and help increase those racial divides.

All the media has done over the last 4 or 5 years is increase the divisions between us, the racial divides, the political divides, the gender divides. This is precisely the type of "us vs them" attitude the left claims to denounce, when in objective reality they are the worst perpetrators of this shortsighted attitude. In summary... if the left learns to stop being absolute hypocrites who do nothing but whine about the past I might start to take them more seriously.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder
What does any of that have to do with wikipedia having one article for the actual marxist political ideal and one for the conspiracy theory?

a reply to: daskakik

The wiki page for Cultural Marxism redirects to the page about it being a conspiracy theory rather than providing any sort of rational examination of the issue. As for my last post, everything I said relates to these issues facing modern society, it's all interconnected.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder
There is a link at the top of that article that takes you to the "Marxist cultural analysis" page, the political ideal article.

Your op asked if cultural marxism was a political ideology or conspiracy theory? Apparently it is both.

I'm thinking what you are talking about is interconnected to the CT more so than the political ideal, then again it seems the CT blurs the line for some.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

I gave the Smith example to show you how a culture was built off the backs of lies and pure deception to prop up a certain level of superiority for a specific group or national identity. I even made a thread about how a Chinese professor claims ancient Med and Middle east are 'western' fabrications, and to a certain extent he was right. But he was being literal, as in all myths and buildings, etc were rather new.

When people are calling out such things, why do you suddenly either, just dismiss it and tell people to move on, or defend it saying "deal with it, it's history!" Yes, it is history, but you can seriously claim that just because it wasn't a generation back it doesn't echo into today's world. You were also claiming that culture hating was on the rise, culture is directly tied to history and tradition, and guess what, western culture is literally freedom to protest, analyse, critique and object and progress.

No on is asking you to be "more socialist" most people are just asking to be more critical of what was to build a better future without idolizing tyrants and liars and picking and choosing history.

Also, I didn't bring up the race thing, you did.

a reply to: daskakik

There is a link at the top of that article that takes you to the "Marxist cultural analysis" page, the political ideal article.

That is the analysis of culture from a Marxist perspective... we both know that's not what is meant by most people when they use the term Cultural Marxism. If it's a term that the far-right invented then why wont they accept the definition which is meant when the right uses it? It's the spread of Marxist ideologies throughout a culture, like I said before this isn't rocket science regardless of how complicated some people want to make it. And I know exactly why they do it, just as it's clear why Wikipedia has separated these articles in the fashion they have done, so people such as yourself can come in and try to claim that the article on Marxism does exist and nothing nefarious is going on here. I wasn't born yesterday, and tactics used by the far-left couldn't be any more obvious if they tried.

a reply to: strongfp

No on is asking you to be "more socialist" most people are just asking to be more critical of what was to build a better future without idolizing tyrants and liars and picking and choosing history.

This is the core issue right here... anyone who doesn't agree with your perspective must be a lying tyrant lover who doesn't want a better future. I am done debating you because it's obvious nothing constructive will come from it.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

You aren't making any sense and already flip flopped on your position. There was no debate.

Have a good one. Your virtues of selfishness only go so far in a society of 370,000,000 people.

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
That is the analysis of culture from a Marxist perspective... we both know that's not what is meant by most people when they use the term Cultural Marxism.

That is pretty much what they said as well.

If it's a term that the far-right invented then why wont they accept the definition which is meant when the right uses it?

Probably because they think it has been co-opted.

And I know exactly why they do it, just as it's clear why Wikipedia has separated these articles in the fashion they have done, so people such as yourself can come in and try to claim that the article on Marxism does exist and nothing nefarious is going on here. I wasn't born yesterday, and tactics used by the far-left couldn't be any more obvious if they tried.

Are you going to argue that it doesn't exist, when it obviously does?

I don't see what the big deal is.

a reply to: strongfp

You aren't making any sense and already flip flopped on your position. There was no debate.

Have a good one. Your virtues of selfishness only go so far in a society of 370,000,000 people.

You can't say this crap and expect me not to respond. First, show me where I flip flopped. Second, I don't live in the US if that's a reference to the US population. Third, your outlook on reality isn't intrinsically more righteous simply because it's more socialist. I believe in a different method of achieving a better future for everyone, a future that doesn't require us to give up our freedoms and liberties which many men sacrificed their lives to obtain for us.

a reply to: daskakik

Are you going to argue that it doesn't exist, when it obviously does?

Clearly it exists, but it's a completely different issue than the issue at hand and we all know it. This is one of the things I hate most about the left, it's always double speak and sly tactics like this, and they think no one can see through it. They should either remove the article about Cultural Marxism entirely or make it less biased. It's a simple fact of reality that Marxist beliefs can spread through a society. But I prefer to just call it socialism because that's what all of it really comes down to at the end of the day. The spread of overzealous socialist philosophies throughout all aspects of society.

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
Clearly it exists, but it's a completely different issue than the issue at hand and we all know it.

That is probably why they separated it?

This is one of the things I hate most about the left, it's always double speak and sly tactics like this, and they think no one can see through it. They should either remove the article about Cultural Marxism entirely or make it less biased. It's a simple fact of reality that Marxist beliefs can spread through a society. But I prefer to just call it socialism because that's what all of it really comes down to at the end of the day. The spread of overzealous socialist philosophies throughout all aspects of society.

I think you mean the cultural marxism conspiracy theory article.

I don't see why. It seems to be describing something real and unique. They did title it "Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory", so it isn't like they are misleading anyone and they offer the link to the other one.

a reply to: daskakik

If your argument were valid the article would start with "The Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory" but instead of starts off as "Cultural Marxism is a far-right antisemitic conspiracy theory" and if you try visiting the page for Cultural Marxism you'll get redirected to the conspiracy page. I'm not going to argue in circles about why it's deceptive.