Cultural Marxism, a Political Ideology or Conspiracy Theory?

Was watching Mark Dice's most recent video and he showed an article from Wikipedia about Cultural Marxism and it made my jaw drop to the floor. I had to go check the article for myself because I could hardly believe what I was seeing. Here is the first paragraph from the article:

Cultural Marxism is a far-right antisemitic conspiracy theory which claims Western Marxism as the basis of continuing academic and intellectual efforts to subvert Western culture.[1][2][3] The conspiracists claim that an elite of Marxist theorists and Frankfurt School intellectuals are subverting Western society with a culture war that undermines the Christian values of traditionalist conservatism and promotes the cultural liberal values of the 1960s counterculture and multiculturalism, progressive politics and political correctness, misrepresented as identity politics created by critical theory.[2][3][4]

Cultural Marxism on Wikipedia

First of all I fail to see how antisemitism needs to be brought into the subject. Being against the socialist philosophies originally developed by Karl Marx isn't somehow inherently antisemitic despite the clown world logic being used here. I'm not very conservative nor am I religious nor do I have anything against Jewish people, yet I do oppose Marxist ideologies for an array of very reasonable reasons.

Cultural Marxism is certainly a very real thing which has been observed throughout history such as the cultural revolution in China. I've lost track of how many self-proclaimed Marxists I have seen crawling out of the woodwork in the last few years. You have to be deaf and blind to not see it happening in the West, albeit more slowly. It's absurd that anyone could write this article and think the bias isn't completely obvious, but the fact this is real just shows how far gone our society is.

The geniuses behind this article are so oblivious to reality they fail to see this very Wikipedia article is a form of Cultural Marxism. Go ahead and try adding any rational centrist arguments to the article and see how far you get. Only one side of the argument is allowed to be heard, anything else is suppressed in typical Marxist fashion. The idea that Wikipedia is a free and open platform for anyone to contribute to is laughable.

It's also worth noting that one of Wikipedia's co-founders recently said the Site’s Neutrality Is ‘Dead’ Thanks to Leftist Bias. This is an important issue because a lot of people do rely on Wikipedia as a quick and easy source of abundant information. Most people understand it's not the most reliable source of information but it's still considered mostly correct even if a bit unreliable.

I am reminded of a scene from the 1998 version of Brave New World where Miss Crowne is teaching her students about bravery and heroism and is forced to use the "world consensus text book" as an authoritative source of information:

Teacher: The ancient Greeks worshipped men of action and sacrifice whom they called heroes. As civilization progressed the role of heroes became more and more irrelevant...

Now we know that heroism is really anti-social behaviour that was necessary in the old... imperfect world.

Because ummm... heroes change things, and we're not supposed to want anything to change. Heroes mean that one person can make a difference.

Student: Umm, Miss Crowne, I don't see that in the book.

Teacher: No, it's not in the book.

Student: Are you saying that the text book is wrong?

Teacher: Well, umm, what do you think?

Student: How would I know? I don't know more than the world consensus text book and neither do you. You're just one person. Who do you think you are?

Teacher: Nobody.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

First of all I fail to see how antisemitism needs to be brought into the subject.

Playing the race card is pretty much a major component of any argument in modern political or social theater. There is a contingent of braindead imbeciles in western culture who knee-jerk to rise against any ideology their masters identify as "racist" purely off their brainwashed education mandating that their wokeness is signaled via how instantaneously they accept the accusation that something is racist. Antisemitism has largely become part of that strategy and, as an added lark, real antisemitism is excused and sheltered as seen in the open embracing of real antisemites like Ra#a Tliab, Louis Farrakhan, and Ilhan Omar.

Disagree with a particular political ideology which *some* elite Jews support? Well, you're clearly an antisemite! Openly attack Jews and hide behind the "I'm anti-Zionist" populist manifestation of blunt racism? Well, you're simply a woke anti-Zionist and in no way racist or anitsemitic.

Am I the only one who appreciates the irony of posting a conspiracy topic complaining about a conspiracy theory being acknowledged?

Antisemitism has been a long standing characteristic in WASP culture of which Western culture is a bastardization. Wealthy Protestant elite discriminating against less favorable social classes.

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Also, there's no such thing as "either or" in politics and conspiracy. Quite the opposite in fact. Conspiracy is to politics as cults are to spirituality.

PSA: when using Wikipedia as a source, the intent is to condense all bibliographic references in one easy to consume source that can be dissected at leisure. Dissection is the responsibility of the reader, that's what research means. Feel free to discredit any data that is demonstrably false.

It's funny how you can show the leftists something that is actually happening, but they'll deny it, then accuse you of being a conspiracy theorist.

On the flip-side, they often invent something that isn't really happening, and claim it's an actual "right-wing conspiracy". When the term "red-pilled" was trendy, there were leftists claiming it was an "alt-right code" or "dog-whistle". It got so silly, the ADL even wrote a long article educating people on the "neo-nazi medicine cabinet codes".

You just can't make this stuff up!

a reply to: TzarChasm

Antisemitism has been a long standing characteristic in WASP culture of which Western culture is a bastardization. Wealthy Protestant elite discriminating against less favorable social classes.

If I understand this jumble of words correctly, you're saying Western culture is inherently antisemitic because Protestant Christians are known to be long standing antisemites, therefore anyone who opposes the slow deconstruction of Western culture must be antisemetic... lmao did I get that right?

originally posted by: ColeYounger
It's funny how you can show the leftists something that is actually happening, but they'll deny it, then accuse you of being a conspiracy theorist.

On the flip-side, they often invent something that isn't really happening, and claim it's an actual "right-wing conspiracy". When the term "red-pilled" was trendy, there were leftists claiming it was an "alt-right code" or "dog-whistle". It got so silly, the ADL even wrote a long article educating people on the "neo-nazi medicine cabinet codes".

You just can't make this stuff up!

What happens if you mix black, purple and green pills? Do you get super justice powers or just super depressed?

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Cultural Marxism which is in itself an oxymoron, is supposedly based off the study of critical theory, which back in the 1920s - 30s was pinned as and Jewish and subversive, alongside communism by the Nazi's. That's where the antisemetism is tied in with it, because a lot of people fully believe the October revolution and communism, Marxism, etc. was a giant Jewish conspiracy to take over Europe and eventually replace all white people.

a reply to: TzarChasm

Am I the only one who appreciates the irony of posting a conspiracy topic complaining about a conspiracy theory being acknowledged?

But cultural Marxism isn't a far- right conspiracy theory. The Marxists admit it. Openly. They've written about it extensively.
They've stated their goals involving dismantling the capitalist economy, the nuclear family, the western educational system, and the west's Judeo-Christian societies.

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
a reply to: TzarChasm

Antisemitism has been a long standing characteristic in WASP culture of which Western culture is a bastardization. Wealthy Protestant elite discriminating against less favorable social classes.

If I understand this jumble of words correctly, you're saying Western culture is inherently antisemitic because Protestant Christians are known to be long standing antisemites, therefore anyone who opposes the slow deconstruction of Western culture must be antisemtic... lmao did I get that right?

I'm saying Western culture has inherited the whole "head up its own ass" complex.

originally posted by: ColeYounger
a reply to: TzarChasm

Am I the only one who appreciates the irony of posting a conspiracy topic complaining about a conspiracy theory being acknowledged?

But cultural Marxism isn't a far- right conspiracy theory. The Marxists admit it. Openly. They've written about it extensively.
They've stated their goals involving dismantling the capitalist economy, the nuclear family, the western educational system, and the west's Judeo-Christian societies.

Pinning your world domination plans on the community tack board isn't exactly conspiratorial. Can you elaborate on what exactly dismantling means? Are these marxists planning to destroy America and replace it with a new country with new government and economy?

a reply to: strongfp

Cultural Marxism which is in itself an oxymoron, is supposedly based off the study of critical theory, which back in the 1920s - 30s was pinned as and Jewish and subversive

Cultural Marxism... is the spread of Marxist ideologies throughout a culture. It's not rocket science, you don't need studies from 100 years ago to understand the meaning or see how our culture and our political climate is slowly shifting in a certain direction. I doubt there is an evil group of "elite Marxist theorists" coordinating the whole thing, but Marxist ideologies have certainly been pushed by Leftist media and politicians, and I see more if it as the days go by.

a reply to: TzarChasm

What happens if you mix black, purple and green pills? Do you get super justice powers or just super depressed?

You will get recruited into The Legion of Regrettable Super Villians.

originally posted by: ColeYounger
a reply to: TzarChasm

What happens if you mix black, purple and green pills? Do you get super justice powers or just super depressed?

You will get recruited into The Legion of Regrettable Super Villians.

If you think that's charming, you should watch the MODOK series featuring Patton Oswalt. Regrettable supervillains indeed.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Marxism is class analysis.

Where the bourgeoisie had their own, I guess culture from the proletariat. The intellectuals of those times between the 1850s - 1940s were focused on class warfare, not cultural warfare.

Somewhere along the lines after WW2 peoeple believe Marxism was muddled up to be more about culture rather than economic class.

That's not a Marxist or communist novel idea, subversion and divide and conquer has been around since probably the beginning of civilization and politics have existed.

Edit:

If anything, it was the people who were accusing Marxism as being a jewish plot who were the ones who invented the phrase cultural marxism and used ... critical theory, to invent this grand conspiracy that communists were under your bed and trying to dismantle the 'west'.

a reply to: TzarChasm

Be honest.


Are you a closet milk drinking marxist?


I need to know about the milk drinking part.

So I did some brief digging and this appears to be the list of problematic tweaks being imposed on American society by the so called "socialist threat"

The creation of racism offences

Continual change to create confusion

The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children

The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority

The destruction of American national identity through immigration

The promotion of excessive drinking

Emptying of churches

An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime

Dependency on the state or state benefits

Control and dumbing down of media

Encouraging the breakdown of the family

Are these symptoms an accurate reflection of Marxist ideology and observable in American society?

I drink milk (from a glass, not from a closet).

a reply to: strongfp

The intellectuals of those times between the 1850s - 1940s were focused on class warfare, not cultural warfare.

Somewhere along the lines after WW2 peoeple believe Marxism was muddled up to be more about culture rather than economic class.

There's little difference. The issue is still class warfare, because socialists believe the wealthy class and corporations are the root of all problems. That leads to culture warfare because one group wants to completely overhaul the framework of society and the other opposes such radical change. Different economic systems lead to different cultures, which is one reason Eastern culture differs so much from the West. Marxism is simply another variant of socialist philosophies, it espouses utopian ideals which involve the erasure of social classes and promotes economic principles that would achieve such goals. It seeks the replacement of capitalist economic systems with socialist systems which redistribute wealth without any regard for what makes Western economies so successful in the first place.

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
a reply to: strongfp

The intellectuals of those times between the 1850s - 1940s were focused on class warfare, not cultural warfare.

Somewhere along the lines after WW2 peoeple believe Marxism was muddled up to be more about culture rather than economic class.

There's little difference. The issue is still class warfare, because socialists believe the wealthy class and corporations are the root of all problems. That leads to culture warfare because one group wants to completely overall the framework of society and the other opposes such radical change. Different economic systems lead to different cultures, which is one reason Eastern culture differs so much from the West. Marxism is simply another variant of socialist philosophies, it espouses utopian ideals which involve the erasure of social classes and promotes economic principles that would achieve such goals. It seeks the replacement of capitalist economic systems with socialist systems which redistribute wealth without any regard for what makes Western economies so successful in the first place.

For the sake of argument what makes Western economies so successful in the first place?

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Capitalism doesn't create any culture, it breaks it down. It creates class.

That's the whole point of understanding Marxism.

a reply to: TzarChasm

For the sake of argument what makes Western economies so successful in the first place?

I'll refer you to the small number of threads I've written on this topic lol:

Why Free Market Capitalism Creates Prosperity

The Supremacy of Westernized Asian Nations

Why Increased Socialism Leads to Increased Prices

Why Excessive Socialism Doesn't Work

Flawed Logic of The Venus Project

Debunking Post Capitalism

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Great. So now allow for people to critique capitalism.

Capitalism isn't this perfect system, it has massive flaws that exaggerate themselves when let free to roam.
And when people criticize capitalism, they don't automatically mean that some form of over the top altruist society needs to come from it. What's with people jumping all over the idea that perhaps capitalism can be improved on, and then when people come forth with ideas on how to improve it, they get called communists? cancel culture much?