Did the Pentagon admit defeat?

originally posted by: CyberBuddha

Any thoughts...?

NAZI's from Antartica!!
Breakaway civilization.
Joking......
Kinda.
Quad

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: CyberBuddha
Please help me out here. Nobody has seen the full UFO report yet, but according to some officials the gist is:

- We’re confirming they’re not ours.
- We haven’t seen a shred of evidence that points to extraterrestrial origins.

In other words the Pentagon is saying it is terrestrial! Doesn’t that clearly point to either China or Russia? And if so why would they publicly admit to this...?

Something is so off that my head is spinning 🤦🏽‍♂️

Any thoughts...?

Yes. Most likely terrestrial .
Can you think of any case whereas ships that small could cross extraterrestrial space ?

Uh yeah,its called gravity/mass nullification. The engines in Space can produce way more thrust on a craft that registers as no weight under full burn and can build up to close to Speed of light since the infinite mass problem is solved by scientific means and therefore does not break the law,but ignores it.

You played too much Mass Effect.

How better to hide science fact with science fiction?

Astro said that reducing a crafts mass to zero in a field(bubble for lack of better term) and its fuel,occupants by removing the weak forces on their atoms to zero,the mass will not increase to infinite and that is key to getting to light speed. The fuel stays the same weight,as well as everything inside the field.

Remember Mass Effect and the transporters ? How large they were ?
How much energy that would take...
What would happen when you wanted turn back from a wave to particles ?
Gonna be ugly.

Uh yeah... they BBts use it as well in atmo,Its why they float under power.Obviously the occupants are not waves and are quite solid. Its similiar to the anti gravity machines we have right now. EXCEPT the denial of the weak force on a persons mass/atoms inside of the field does not change the persons body to a wave. All that happens is they float unless they have magnetic boots. denying gravitys pull obviously will make you float away if not properly restrained or outfitted. BTW its nice to have a conversation for once.

The mass relays were powered by Unobtanoium(lmao)AKA mr mcdosentexist
If you remove the limit of Infinite speed begetting infinite mass,wouldnt artifically reducing the mass of the object(gravity pulling on a object or person) to zero and keeping it there as long as the trip last make infinite speed possible?

a reply to: Mantiss2021

Yeah..thats why the bubble extends out from the craft just enough to provide thrust and after it leaves the bubble it returns to its weighted/mass state. IF we are using fuel in the conventional sense.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: CyberBuddha

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: CyberBuddha
Please help me out here. Nobody has seen the full UFO report yet, but according to some officials the gist is:

- We’re confirming they’re not ours.
- We haven’t seen a shred of evidence that points to extraterrestrial origins.

In other words the Pentagon is saying it is terrestrial! Doesn’t that clearly point to either China or Russia? And if so why would they publicly admit to this...?

Something is so off that my head is spinning 🤦🏽‍♂️

Any thoughts...?

Yes. Most likely terrestrial .
Can you think of any case whereas ships that small could cross extraterrestrial space ?

Size matters...🤣

Let’s just say that I don’t think those “ships” travel for years to get here. Maybe just seconds in their timeframe.

Really ?
A ship that small can generate near infinite energy ?
I don;t think so.
It's earthly or natural phenomena

The anomalies range in size from tiny to the size of several aircraft carriers. Why would you postulate that these anomalies are all uniformly tiny?

originally posted by: canucks555

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: CyberBuddha

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: CyberBuddha
Please help me out here. Nobody has seen the full UFO report yet, but according to some officials the gist is:

- We’re confirming they’re not ours.
- We haven’t seen a shred of evidence that points to extraterrestrial origins.

In other words the Pentagon is saying it is terrestrial! Doesn’t that clearly point to either China or Russia? And if so why would they publicly admit to this...?

Something is so off that my head is spinning 🤦🏽‍♂️

Any thoughts...?

Yes. Most likely terrestrial .
Can you think of any case whereas ships that small could cross extraterrestrial space ?

Size matters...🤣

Let’s just say that I don’t think those “ships” travel for years to get here. Maybe just seconds in their timeframe.

Really ?
A ship that small can generate near infinite energy ?
I don;t think so.
It's earthly or natural phenomena

The anomalies range in size from tiny to the size of several aircraft carriers. Why would you postulate that these anomalies are all uniformly tiny?

Doesn't matter (no pun intended)
How large would it have to be to produce energy enough to cross interstellar space ?
E=MC^2

Sounds to me like the Pentagon leaked the report ahead of Congress in order to get more favorable headlines out, exclusive leaks like this always come with conditions. Makes me think the real report is going to say "We are powerless to even investigate these things." and that they want to maintain their authority above all else.

originally posted by: spite
Sounds to me like the Pentagon leaked the report ahead of Congress in order to get more favorable headlines out, exclusive leaks like this always come with conditions. Makes me think the real report is going to say "We are powerless to even investigate these things." and that they want to maintain their authority above all else.

They cant expose the Leaders until they are ready to leave. Its simple as that.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: canucks555

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: CyberBuddha

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: CyberBuddha
Please help me out here. Nobody has seen the full UFO report yet, but according to some officials the gist is:

- We’re confirming they’re not ours.
- We haven’t seen a shred of evidence that points to extraterrestrial origins.

In other words the Pentagon is saying it is terrestrial! Doesn’t that clearly point to either China or Russia? And if so why would they publicly admit to this...?

Something is so off that my head is spinning 🤦🏽‍♂️

Any thoughts...?

Yes. Most likely terrestrial .
Can you think of any case whereas ships that small could cross extraterrestrial space ?

Size matters...🤣

Let’s just say that I don’t think those “ships” travel for years to get here. Maybe just seconds in their timeframe.

Really ?
A ship that small can generate near infinite energy ?
I don;t think so.
It's earthly or natural phenomena

The anomalies range in size from tiny to the size of several aircraft carriers. Why would you postulate that these anomalies are all uniformly tiny?

Doesn't matter (no pun intended)
How large would it have to be to produce energy enough to cross interstellar space ?
E=MC^2

But Einstein’s equation is just our current understanding of physics. Isn’t the whole point that “their” understanding is maybe 1 million years more advanced and therefore our laws of physics don’t apply at all because they’re not true. I’m just speculating...

originally posted by: CyberBuddha
But Einstein’s equation is just our current understanding of physics. Isn’t the whole point that “their” understanding is maybe 1 million years more advanced and therefore our laws of physics don’t apply at all because they’re not true. I’m just speculating...

I recently read somebody on the Internet who was working their way up the ladder of chemistry, and they were saying it was funny how when you first learn about chemistry it is explained to you in a very simple way where various elements and molecules act a certain way because of their properties, then he said as he was getting his advanced degrees, each step up was like, "Yeah, that's the way we used to think they worked, but now we think this is actually the real way it works." Kind of like moving from the Bohr model of the atom to something much less easily recognizable.

Einstein said his ideas were built on "the shoulders of giants," but they were only working with what people before them figured out. And for the most part, it was close enough to be useful. But 10,000 years from now it's almost guaranteed that somebody (if we still exist as a species, which is doubtful) will say, "Man, those people 10,000 years ago just didn't have a clue how things really work."

a reply to: Blue Shift

I agree with you a 100%, except for the term, and this may be pure semantics, “how things really work”.

I’m afraid that we as a biological species are not equipped, and probably never will be, to fully understand reality.

We already have great trouble really understanding the fourth dimension, time. What about if reality is made up of nine, or trillions of dimensions?

Sure, with the right equipment we could get a glimpse of, or detect certain distortions that would point to other dimensions. But our senses are quite limited.

reply to: CyberBuddha
If the Chicoms have this technology they stole it from us. Like everything else they have.

originally posted by: Dssquared
reply to: CyberBuddha
If the Chicoms have this technology they stole it from us. Like everything else they have.

So the Pentagon is lying when they say it’s not ours?

They are feathering the information to us because it will be too much for most to handle if it were all let out at once. They want to leave lots of room for people to slowly come to the idea that its possible before they outright give us everything. There is so much information out there if you want it and are ready for it.

They're not saying it's terrestrial. Did you read the article or did you take that off the misleading initial headline (which they changed)? They're saying they don't have evidence of it being extraterrestrial, but they can't rule it out either. They're also saying it's unlikely to be terrestrial (not verbatim, but implied through various interviews). China and Russia did not have this technology at least 20 years ago, and they are sure of that. Most importantly, they're saying it's not theirs. Not US secret tech. In essence, that leaves the non-human option. And they're saying they don't know exactly what it is but they're not going to blurt out the aliens bit because there are other possibilities -- ultraterrestrials, time travelers, etc.

originally posted by: CyberBuddha
Please help me out here. Nobody has seen the full UFO report yet, but according to some officials the gist is:

- We’re confirming they’re not ours.
- We haven’t seen a shred of evidence that points to extraterrestrial origins.

In other words the Pentagon is saying it is terrestrial! Doesn’t that clearly point to either China or Russia? And if so why would they publicly admit to this...?

Something is so off that my head is spinning 🤦🏽‍♂️

Any thoughts...?

a reply to: Gothmog

This is way beyond the kind of technology you are thinking of. And please share your evidence that it is earthly or natural phenomena.

I have witnessed/experienced this phenomenon firsthand. This is NOT human. Also, it is, without a single doubt, intelligent. So nope. Cannot possibly be natural phenomena.

originally posted by: topquark
a reply to: Gothmog

This is way beyond the kind of technology you are thinking of. And please share your evidence that it is earthly or natural phenomena.

I have witnessed/experienced this phenomenon firsthand. This is NOT human. Also, it is, without a single doubt, intelligent. So nope. Cannot possibly be natural phenomena.

It is ?
Damn.
Is it beyond Albert's Theory of Relativity ?

They belong to the US
Admit nothing deny everything
Top secret clearance needed for real info

From an article I posted, Scientific American in a different thread.....

“Lastly, according to the New York Times article, the final report includes a “classified annex” of information deemed unsuitable for public release—leaving more than enough room for die-hard UFO advocates to remain convinced that the U.S. government is hiding the truth.”

I’ve been saying this...since the “Classified Annex” was mentioned in the intelligence committee mandate. It’s the Governments Can...that will be kicked down the road.

As long as it’s part of the report, forget full disclosure.

This is No Defeat for the Government.

originally posted by: topquark
a reply to: Gothmog

This is way beyond the kind of technology you are thinking of. And please share your evidence that it is earthly or natural phenomena.

I have witnessed/experienced this phenomenon firsthand. This is NOT human. Also, it is, without a single doubt, intelligent. So nope. Cannot possibly be natural phenomena.

Ah, a prophet who has seen the Devine! Bringing the word of their lord!

Why does it make people so uneasy to imagine there might be beings out there in space that exceed us?

And that they've visited us.

I personally feel comforted that they are being considerate about it, and not trying to cause any undue trouble for us. Even to the point of trying to hide.

That speaks of a particularly kind specie to me. Like the Hypocratic oath that doctors follow: to help, or at least to do no harm.

Maybe they don't know how to help, so they are choosing the second option?