C19 'has NO credible natural ancestor' and Is this finally proof Covid DID leak from Wuhan lab?

I think it was intentionally released too. If it wad.an accident they wouldn't have intentionally spread it to the rest of the world. However, I just looked on the web and found lots of articles saying that covid is a natural virus and any claims to the contrary were debunked. How can this be? The fact checkers said it was so to the point that it was banned and completely filtered from social media. Why the sudden about face by those controlling the narrative?

originally posted by: DeadlyStaringFrog
I think it was intentionally released too. If it wad.an accident they wouldn't have intentionally spread it to the rest of the world. However, I just looked on the web and found lots of articles saying that covid is a natural virus and any claims to the contrary were debunked. How can this be? The fact checkers said it was so to the point that it was banned and completely filtered from social media. Why the sudden about face by those controlling the narrative?

To keep us scared and justify more action...

originally posted by: LanceCorvette
All this "is it" "no it isn't" "yes it is" over the past year is all part of the psy-op.

The real goal was having an exercise to see what it would take to get 100% submission to a government mandate - in this case, wearing a mask.

The sheeple, well, they put one on the day they were told to.

But this "man made muh deadly" fake new information is geared toward those of us who said, "my body can handle a natural virus, that's what bodies do".

So they say "Lance, it's not natural and the only way to prevent it is to mask up."

It's all a psy-op.

That is priceless!!!! The whole Covid 19 thing is a ruse to see if they can get you to wear a mask!!!!

Yeah ok. So now what, please extrapolate your mind bramble for my entertainment!

originally posted by: Forensick

originally posted by: LanceCorvette
All this "is it" "no it isn't" "yes it is" over the past year is all part of the psy-op.

The real goal was having an exercise to see what it would take to get 100% submission to a government mandate - in this case, wearing a mask.

The sheeple, well, they put one on the day they were told to.

But this "man made muh deadly" fake new information is geared toward those of us who said, "my body can handle a natural virus, that's what bodies do".

So they say "Lance, it's not natural and the only way to prevent it is to mask up."

It's all a psy-op.

Yeah ok. So now what, please extrapolate your mind bramble for my entertainment!

You made a choice here today in posting this. Your choice was to ridicule a fellow human who is trying to understand an inherently difficult situation being faced by all of humanity.

You could have chosen to be civil, or chosen to not post anything.

But you chose to take time and energy from your short time on this planet to ridicule me, that's how important trying to belittle me was to you.

Guess what pal: one day you'll be the one in doubt, trying to understand what's going on around you.

And I'm just going to laugh, and laugh, and laugh.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: Vasa Croe

The mask wasn't the submission part.....that can't be tabulated. That was solely to see if folks would chastise others, similar to the yellow star. The submission stats are still coming in from those that got a jab....this is the true test for submission. Getting the numbers of folks who have no clue what they are getting, but just trust the pharma companies and government to get the jab. These are the stats they are looking for.

I think that was a given. Dr. Suess even wrote a book about how people respond to the stars upon thars, or not about thars. It must be coded in for our psyche.

Advertisers have been conditioning us to believe lies, not just lies but known lies, for decades. We daily spend money on crap that we know will not work that miracle it claims, so getting the masses to take an experimental vaccine required no real effort at all.

It is sick when you really think about it.

Right now the government is creating a massive divide between those that have and have not been vaccinated for C19....

It is in your face daily. And everyone is bragging that they are vaccinated.

Companies are stating that you must prove a vaccination to work for them....and people are ok with that?

The vax companies can't even advertise themselves because they are not FDA approved yet. And people are lining up in droves to get this?

It was just applied for on May 7....

www.pfizer.com...

The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine has not been approved or licensed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), but has been authorized for emergency use by FDA under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) to prevent Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) for use in individuals 16 years of age and older. 

Thanks for the thread. Here’s what I think happened by what I saw and heard . I think Dr Fauci gave a company millions of dollars and they gave it to Dr Baric . Dr Baric under the guidance of Dr Fauci worked directly with Dr Zhengli of the wuhan lab . They worked on gain of function testing which from what I can tell was outlawed by Obama because it’s so sick . From what I’ve heard it’s taking animal viruses and diseases and figuring out ways to give it to humans. Specifically doing COVID 19 testing on bats in the wuhan lab .Then it escapes from the wuhan lab , wow what are the odds? That’s what Dr Fauci directed . Why would we want to give this information to China of all people ?
So in my opinion Dr Fauci created the pandemic.He killed millions of people . Him and all his bosses are guilty of crimes against humanity. Now we sit here and listen to dr Fauci tell us all to get his vaccine to fix his pandemic he started and we should were two or three masks . What a joke of a world I live in . Why is he not in prison ? Someone please explain to me ?

a reply to: musicismagic

Yes, I think most of us on ATS suspected this virus to come from a Lab, not a market!

a reply to: kwakakev

I do believe Chinese Scientists were messing with a Biological weapon, preparing for something further down the line but this ended up being released by mistake.

originally posted by: tamusan
Like I said before. This was all started by a lab worker being bit and peed on multiple times by a bat. Whether or not it was tweaked by humans or not is still a valid question though.

I would say it was definitely tweaked by those Chinese Scientists!

originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese
a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

Unfortunately, the Daily Mail has a proven (and often unintentionally hilarious) track record of failing to grasp even the most basic of scientific concepts.

The same article that tells us there was no credible ancestor also tells us about some miners that caught it from guano in a cave.

File under: wait for a better source.

There's no credible ancestor... directly, is what they're saying which means the virus has been tweaked in a lab and they can't find that it came directly from an animal!

originally posted by: LanceCorvette

originally posted by: Forensick

originally posted by: LanceCorvette
All this "is it" "no it isn't" "yes it is" over the past year is all part of the psy-op.

The real goal was having an exercise to see what it would take to get 100% submission to a government mandate - in this case, wearing a mask.

The sheeple, well, they put one on the day they were told to.

But this "man made muh deadly" fake new information is geared toward those of us who said, "my body can handle a natural virus, that's what bodies do".

So they say "Lance, it's not natural and the only way to prevent it is to mask up."

It's all a psy-op.

Yeah ok. So now what, please extrapolate your mind bramble for my entertainment!

You made a choice here today in posting this. Your choice was to ridicule a fellow human who is trying to understand an inherently difficult situation being faced by all of humanity.

You could have chosen to be civil, or chosen to not post anything.

But you chose to take time and energy from your short time on this planet to ridicule me, that's how important trying to belittle me was to you.

Guess what pal: one day you'll be the one in doubt, trying to understand what's going on around you.

And I'm just going to laugh, and laugh, and laugh.

I was on the toilet when I posted it so actually I didn’t waste any time or energy, but keep telling yourself that.

It’s actually you who is wasting time and effort with an ultra narrow minded focus on Covid-19 and what I assume is your belief the US is the center of the world.

I live in Australia and no one has made me wear a mask, where I live, zero cases, zero deaths, no lockdown and only a month or so of toilet roll shortage.

Explain to me please who is trying to control who with Covid by making them wear a mask?

I am truly interested in your theory that will lead you to laughing at me.

a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

Nobody ever tracked down the origin of swine flu, SARS or MERS either, and those were years ago. There are guesses and suppositions, but no actual proof. Are you saying that those were all conspiracies as well?

Covid has been sequences and dissected by some of the best in the field, and not one of them has found any evidence to suggest that this thing was man made, or even altered in a lab.

Either China has perfected an absolutely invisible method of creating virus, or this thing is natural.

originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
Reading more about this virus being leaked from a lab and not coming from a market (which is where the Chinese claimed it came from).

Well... many of us here on ATS were with the idea that this virus did escape from a lab and was probably man-made from Scientists trying to create some Bio-weapon which was an accident getting out but unfortunately for the Chines, it did escape from the Lab and has now cause dall this Worldwide mess!

Lets hope Investigations continue and people are made to pay!

EXCLUSIVE: COVID-19 'has NO credible natural ancestor' and WAS created by Chinese scientists who then tried to cover their tracks with 'retro-engineering' to make it seem like it naturally arose from bats, explosive new study claims

An explosive new study claims that Chinese scientists created COVID-19 in a Wuhan lab, then tried to cover their tracks by reverse-engineering versions of the virus to make it look like it evolved naturally from bats. The paper's authors, British Professor Angus Dalgleish and Norwegian scientist Dr. Birger Sørensen, wrote that they have had 'prima facie evidence of retro-engineering in China' for a year - but were ignored by academics and major journals. Dalgleish is a professor of oncology at St George's University, London, and is best known for his breakthrough creating the first working 'HIV vaccine', to treat diagnosed patients and allow them to go off medication for months. Sørensen, a virologist, is chair of pharmaceutical company, Immunor, which developed a coronavirus vaccine candidate called Biovacc-19. Dalgleish also has share options in the firm. The shocking allegations in the study include accusations of 'deliberate destruction, concealment or contamination of data' at Chinese labs, and it notes the silencing and disappearance of scientists in the communist country who spoke out. The journal article, exclusively obtained by DailyMail.com and slated for publication in the coming days, is set to make waves among the scientific community, as the majority of experts have until recently staunchly denied the origins of COVID-19 were anything other than a natural infection leaping from animals to humans.

Full Journal will be coming soon with all the info. (Something I'm guessing the Chinese are trying to stop as we speak/type).

Extract:

Their new paper says these features of SARS-Cov-2 are 'unique fingerprints' which are 'indicative of purposive manipulation', and that 'the likelihood of it being the result of natural processes is very small.'

sample with a 96% match with the virus, a young medic's damning findings, and bat cave trip that killed three miners... the Mail dossier that can no longer be ignored

www.dailymail.co.uk...

There can't be many jobs more hellish than that given to three Chinese miners in the mountainous province of Yunnan in April 2012. Tasked with cleaning out an abandoned copper mine in the county of Moijang, they found themselves in caves knee-deep in piles of guano — a foul-smelling combination of bat faeces and urine. As horseshoe bats roosted overhead, and rats and shrews scurried around in the droppings and muck, the men dug for hours at a time in the stinking, airless space. After two weeks all three had developed a severe, pneumonia-like disease. Three younger men were dispatched to take over but soon they, too, were suffering breathing problems, coughs, and fevers in excess of 39c (102f) — symptoms later described in an obscure Chinese medical paper and which are strikingly similar to the disease we know now as Covid-19. The six miners were moved to the No 1 School of Medicine at Kunming Medical University — more than 100 miles away in the provincial capital — where they were put on ventilators. Within months, three were dead.

The revelation gives fresh impetus to long-standing claims that the novel coronavirus virus — official name SARS-CoV-2 — originated not at the Huanan seafood and wildlife market in Wuhan, or at any of the other suggested 'ground zeros', but via a leak in a Wuhan laboratory. So could the virus (or a related variant) that infected the miners — and which is known to have been studied in Wuhan — be the cause of a global pandemic that has caused 168 million confirmed cases and at least 3.5 million deaths to date? It is a substantial leap to make in what is a complex narrative, but there are grounds for serious consideration, not least the genetic similarities between the Moijang cave virus and SARS-CoV-2 as I shall explain. Of course, this isn't the first time that the 'lab leak' theory has been mooted as the cause of the pandemic. For many, the likelihood of a novel virus emerging in the very city where labs specialising in coronavirus research were located was always too much of a coincidence. But such claims were dismissed more or less from the start.

www.dailymail.co.uk...

THE TRUTH IS COMING OUT.... GRADUALLY BUT T'S COMING.

Why would one think it was accidentally released?

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

Nobody ever tracked down the origin of swine flu, SARS or MERS either, and those were years ago. There are guesses and suppositions, but no actual proof. Are you saying that those were all conspiracies as well?

Covid has been sequences and dissected by some of the best in the field, and not one of them has found any evidence to suggest that this thing was man made, or even altered in a lab.

Either China has perfected an absolutely invisible method of creating virus, or this thing is natural.

seems possible they were all manufactured no? Don’t they have billions of $ spent and decades of research and lab time? Is it not confirmed they have made weaponized virus in that time?

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

Nobody ever tracked down the origin of swine flu, SARS or MERS either, and those were years ago. There are guesses and suppositions, but no actual proof. Are you saying that those were all conspiracies as well?

Covid has been sequences and dissected by some of the best in the field, and not one of them has found any evidence to suggest that this thing was man made, or even altered in a lab.

Either China has perfected an absolutely invisible method of creating virus, or this thing is natural.

It came from a Lab, so I'm guessing it was altered in a lab by those crazy Scientists who think it's a great idea to mess with viruses, alter them and make Biological weapons out of them... something the Chinese would most likely do and to some extent those crazy Islamists... maybe even KimJung Un.

Basically there are people in this World who would love to release a biological weapon, in facat wasn't one tested in a Japan underground trains?? Even here in the UK, crazy people have released poisonous gases on the underground as "experiments".

originally posted by: Forensick

originally posted by: LanceCorvette

originally posted by: Forensick

originally posted by: LanceCorvette
All this "is it" "no it isn't" "yes it is" over the past year is all part of the psy-op.

The real goal was having an exercise to see what it would take to get 100% submission to a government mandate - in this case, wearing a mask.

The sheeple, well, they put one on the day they were told to.

But this "man made muh deadly" fake new information is geared toward those of us who said, "my body can handle a natural virus, that's what bodies do".

So they say "Lance, it's not natural and the only way to prevent it is to mask up."

It's all a psy-op.

Yeah ok. So now what, please extrapolate your mind bramble for my entertainment!

You made a choice here today in posting this. Your choice was to ridicule a fellow human who is trying to understand an inherently difficult situation being faced by all of humanity.

You could have chosen to be civil, or chosen to not post anything.

But you chose to take time and energy from your short time on this planet to ridicule me, that's how important trying to belittle me was to you.

Guess what pal: one day you'll be the one in doubt, trying to understand what's going on around you.

And I'm just going to laugh, and laugh, and laugh.

I am truly interested in your theory that will lead you to laughing at me.

Life is a spinning wheel friend.

Sometimes you're on top, but sometimes you're on the bottom.

When that time comes when you're on the bottom, remember me and my laughter.

a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

I'm not taking it. Something's not right. States doing lotteries for the jabbed, sorry but that does not compute at all. I feel like this is a test run for something else.

If Fauci or some celeb said hop on one foot, spin in circles, and rub your tummy while picking your nose LOOK at the people who would have done it....why not offer the "lotteries" in the beginning? Imagine those that were pissed last week that jumped too soon to get jabbed.

No. If it's meant for me to go then adiós, but I'm not taking this jab no matter who says take it. And I'm a fan of Orange Man, but no, I'll have to wait a decade to see what happens to the lot of you that bowed down so easily.

Didn't mean you as in you, but as those who read this and have the nanobots swimming in their bloodstream.

a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

I'm not too concerned about the virus or its origins, its the rushed vaccine that raises red flags. And the manner in which it's being pushed. Free food, free scratch off tickets, free entry in a Vax lotto....yeah right.

Anyone who's not suspicious of the jab needs to call me because I've got rocks I found in the ground that look old and stuff, each one different, only $19.95 each.

And if you order now I'll throw in a dollar scratch ticket from NC Educational Lottery...

See how that works.

a reply to: EdisonintheFM

This thread isn't about the vaccines!

a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

I'll give my thoughts on that once I know for a fact the virus was not purposely created in order to get me to take a vaccine for said virus.