C19 'has NO credible natural ancestor' and Is this finally proof Covid DID leak from Wuhan lab?

Reading more about this virus being leaked from a lab and not coming from a market (which is where the Chinese claimed it came from).

Well... many of us here on ATS were with the idea that this virus did escape from a lab and was probably man-made from Scientists trying to create some Bio-weapon which was an accident getting out but unfortunately for the Chines, it did escape from the Lab and has now cause dall this Worldwide mess!

Lets hope Investigations continue and people are made to pay!

EXCLUSIVE: COVID-19 'has NO credible natural ancestor' and WAS created by Chinese scientists who then tried to cover their tracks with 'retro-engineering' to make it seem like it naturally arose from bats, explosive new study claims

An explosive new study claims that Chinese scientists created COVID-19 in a Wuhan lab, then tried to cover their tracks by reverse-engineering versions of the virus to make it look like it evolved naturally from bats. The paper's authors, British Professor Angus Dalgleish and Norwegian scientist Dr. Birger Sørensen, wrote that they have had 'prima facie evidence of retro-engineering in China' for a year - but were ignored by academics and major journals. Dalgleish is a professor of oncology at St George's University, London, and is best known for his breakthrough creating the first working 'HIV vaccine', to treat diagnosed patients and allow them to go off medication for months. Sørensen, a virologist, is chair of pharmaceutical company, Immunor, which developed a coronavirus vaccine candidate called Biovacc-19. Dalgleish also has share options in the firm. The shocking allegations in the study include accusations of 'deliberate destruction, concealment or contamination of data' at Chinese labs, and it notes the silencing and disappearance of scientists in the communist country who spoke out. The journal article, exclusively obtained by DailyMail.com and slated for publication in the coming days, is set to make waves among the scientific community, as the majority of experts have until recently staunchly denied the origins of COVID-19 were anything other than a natural infection leaping from animals to humans.

Full Journal will be coming soon with all the info. (Something I'm guessing the Chinese are trying to stop as we speak/type).

Extract:

Their new paper says these features of SARS-Cov-2 are 'unique fingerprints' which are 'indicative of purposive manipulation', and that 'the likelihood of it being the result of natural processes is very small.'

sample with a 96% match with the virus, a young medic's damning findings, and bat cave trip that killed three miners... the Mail dossier that can no longer be ignored

www.dailymail.co.uk...

There can't be many jobs more hellish than that given to three Chinese miners in the mountainous province of Yunnan in April 2012. Tasked with cleaning out an abandoned copper mine in the county of Moijang, they found themselves in caves knee-deep in piles of guano — a foul-smelling combination of bat faeces and urine. As horseshoe bats roosted overhead, and rats and shrews scurried around in the droppings and muck, the men dug for hours at a time in the stinking, airless space. After two weeks all three had developed a severe, pneumonia-like disease. Three younger men were dispatched to take over but soon they, too, were suffering breathing problems, coughs, and fevers in excess of 39c (102f) — symptoms later described in an obscure Chinese medical paper and which are strikingly similar to the disease we know now as Covid-19. The six miners were moved to the No 1 School of Medicine at Kunming Medical University — more than 100 miles away in the provincial capital — where they were put on ventilators. Within months, three were dead.

The revelation gives fresh impetus to long-standing claims that the novel coronavirus virus — official name SARS-CoV-2 — originated not at the Huanan seafood and wildlife market in Wuhan, or at any of the other suggested 'ground zeros', but via a leak in a Wuhan laboratory. So could the virus (or a related variant) that infected the miners — and which is known to have been studied in Wuhan — be the cause of a global pandemic that has caused 168 million confirmed cases and at least 3.5 million deaths to date? It is a substantial leap to make in what is a complex narrative, but there are grounds for serious consideration, not least the genetic similarities between the Moijang cave virus and SARS-CoV-2 as I shall explain. Of course, this isn't the first time that the 'lab leak' theory has been mooted as the cause of the pandemic. For many, the likelihood of a novel virus emerging in the very city where labs specialising in coronavirus research were located was always too much of a coincidence. But such claims were dismissed more or less from the start.

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THE TRUTH IS COMING OUT.... GRADUALLY BUT T'S COMING.

You know the truth can kill, don't you. Sad, but I always felt top govt. officials are involved in this and the missing link is where is the US military involved in this. Thousands of active Vets have been vaccinated.

I did consider the wet market origin for a few days, maybe a week or two when trying to work out what was going on in the Wuhan crematoriums. Something was released from that lab. Not all cases of Covid are SARS-CoV-2. How the spike protein was engineered for the ACE2 receptor was a dead give away. Now how the vaccine is all engineered around this vital body and reproduction molecular messaging has the 'kill em all' approach.

Not your fault, but this is old news, suddenly becoming new news. They media uses these forums to push whatever agenda they want. The people who believe the virus came from a lab in wuhan have most probably done their homework, it was a long time ago. A year ago no one would report that it could even possibly be from a lab, now, it’s very possible but not conclusive. It’s all bull#. The truth and the media is so at opposites unless it suits, now no one believes anything but strangely enough keep reading and listening. It’s a circus act.

a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

It sounds like those 3 miners got a Hantavirus infection. By far the most likely infection you’ll get mucking around in bat guano and rodent dung.

en.wikipedia.org...

ETA, just read the complete article. The infection was identified as fungal.

a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

I don't know if the virus was man made or not, but I have a lot of faith in Mother Nature.

I think that God has written in a survival code, so strong, that man can be a pest, but will never be able to wipe out life on this planet.

I am sure that we could leave a heck of a nasty mess in our wake, but this planet will survive, with us, or without us.

Life will go on. How many levels of evolution were we supposed to have traversed through to get to our present level of human/humanoids? If you believe that man came from apes, then you can feel safe as we wade through our next trip.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn
They know we are done being scared of the COVID so they have to ramp up the fear.

Tell us now there is a chance its a bio weapon That should scare us pretty good.

I mean all China would have to do to shut the MSM up about it is threaten a lawsuit right?

LOL its all such BULL CACA

Like I said before. This was all started by a lab worker being bit and peed on multiple times by a bat. Whether or not it was tweaked by humans or not is still a valid question though.

a reply to: kingparrot

iIwas going to say the same thing, but this has already been discussed, my theory was a person got infected with Covid at the lab and went into the wet market to purchase food, and infected the people in that market. It didn't come form a bat, it came from the lab. last year, it was a crazy conspiracy theory and people thought you were nuts for bringing it up, but i always knew th truth and now they are stating it did! Well duh?! Fauci funded it, and he can deny it all he wants but the fact is they have messing with this virus since 2014! China admitted that they purposely unleashed it as a bio weapon. I think it's extremely weak. Why not unleash Ebola or something more deadly?

originally posted by: tamusan
Like I said before. This was all started by a lab worker being bit and peed on multiple times by a bat. Whether or not it was tweaked by humans or not is still a valid question though.

That was probably a fake story too. It even sounds fake . Its all fake . All of the MSM is compromised.

Remember when Trump sent 2 gigantic Navy hospital ships to the coasts and they didnt even get any patients?

But we still believe ....

originally posted by: liliththedestroyer
a reply to: kingparrot

iIwas going to say the same thing, but this has already been discussed, my theory was a person got infected with Covid at the lab and went into the wet market to purchase food, and infected the people in that market. It didn't come form a bat, it came from the lab. last year, it was a crazy conspiracy theory and people thought you were nuts for bringing it up, but i always knew th truth and now they are stating it did! Well duh?! Fauci funded it, and he can deny it all he wants but the fact is they have messing with this virus since 2014! China admitted that they purposely unleashed it as a bio weapon. I think it's extremely weak. Why not unleash Ebola or something more deadly?

My theory is the city of Wuhan was chosen by China to start this whole thing in because it has a lab.

But this virus has nothing to do with the lab.

They could have told us it started anywhere in that huge city but they give us wet market right next to the lab.

originally posted by: kwakakev
I did consider the wet market origin for a few days, maybe a week or two when trying to work out what was going on in the Wuhan crematoriums. Something was released from that lab. Not all cases of Covid are SARS-CoV-2. How the spike protein was engineered for the ACE2 receptor was a dead give away. Now how the vaccine is all engineered around this vital body and reproduction molecular messaging has the 'kill em all' approach.

I guess the fact that all four of our vaccines are based on releasing spike proteins is just coincidence. When the cure equals the disease

The closeness of the lab to the market immediately made me think it could have escaped, that information was released almost immediately when the virus was discovered. Governments cover up things, and so do big agencies that regulate labs. WHO should be disbanded and the top people who are running it put into prison for spreading lies to cover up the lab that they fund. Once all the top people of WHO are gone, they can start a new health organization there with people who are much more cautious about things and who are actually honest and will admit things that go wrong under their control. Mistakes are made occasionally even with strong regulations, but the coverups are the things that make the mistakes into disasters.

We are not going to be able to stop China from continuing their research, which when it does get done is shifted to labs for creation of bio-warfare. Our government does the same thing. It is necessary to create some microbes to find cures sometimes for future bio-warfare releases by countries doing bio-warfare research to create weapons. And there are many countries doing this around the world. Good think this virus was a wimp, easily inhibited by common food chemistries and herbs. But people have been led to believe that we needed expensive medicines to treat this instead of common things that kill lots of viruses. Over a year ago I found research that verified that this virus could be inhibited by these chemistries because I knew what to look for....but they did this testing to increase the viability of making expensive new meds, denying that existing cheap meds could help quite a bit. It is greed and desire to get famous for creating a new clone chemistry to do what natural things can fix that is causing this to be a pandemic.

Their philosophy is that there is no evidence that something can kill the virus...look at the hand sanatizer scam. There were many chemistries that were out there that kill this virus, bleach, pinesol, and many more, but even though these cleaning products destroy ninety nine percent of other viruses in one way or another, there was no evidence on record that they kill this one. Most soaps destroy this virus, and most of the cleaners we use in our house. The FDA wanted official accepted evidence or it was not real, and that is very expensive and time consuming to do. Many months later some companies like Pinesol got acceptable evidence, but meanwhile people were going out and buying a lot of alcohol based sanitizers because there was accepted evidence they work already. It is all a scam. My wife only bought one hand sanatizer, that crap is not good to put on your body. Look at Triclosan, notice it is not in most things anymore, it poisons people....it was a sales scam...plain handsoap kills just as much germs as it does and half of them do not contain any bad chemistry. The more expensive the soap, the more new unproven bad yet chemistry that can cause complications.

a reply to: musicismagic

I agree, bluff, double bluff, all options are still on the table. If having no natural ancestor is proof of it being man made, it isn’t proof that China made it.

IMHO it came from the Wuhan lab, but there seems to be loose ends when it comes the research’s funding.

Could be exclusively China, could be the US working with China, or it could be the US setting up China to take the fall.

This is just more reinforcement of the big lie.
The big lie is that COVID-19 is actually real.
I don’t believe it is.
I believe it’s just the brand name for last year’s coronavirus.
This story of how it could have really come from a lab is just reinforcement of the big lie.
It’s all about getting you to finally believe in it and go and get injected.

It’s all about the injection and population control.

Every year around 500,000 Americans die of the normal coronavirus. And the only reason the numbers are slightly up this time is because the population keeps growing and also they are counting pretty much everything as covid.

It’s ALL a lie and scam to get you to take the shot.

Just say no!

All this "is it" "no it isn't" "yes it is" over the past year is all part of the psy-op.

The real goal was having an exercise to see what it would take to get 100% submission to a government mandate - in this case, wearing a mask.

The sheeple, well, they put one on the day they were told to.

But this "man made muh deadly" fake new information is geared toward those of us who said, "my body can handle a natural virus, that's what bodies do".

So they say "Lance, it's not natural and the only way to prevent it is to mask up."

It's all a psy-op.

originally posted by: LanceCorvette
All this "is it" "no it isn't" "yes it is" over the past year is all part of the psy-op.

The real goal was having an exercise to see what it would take to get 100% submission to a government mandate - in this case, wearing a mask.

The sheeple, well, they put one on the day they were told to.

But this "man made muh deadly" fake new information is geared toward those of us who said, "my body can handle a natural virus, that's what bodies do".

So they say "Lance, it's not natural and the only way to prevent it is to mask up."

It's all a psy-op.

The mask wasn't the submission part.....that can't be tabulated. That was solely to see if folks would chastise others, similar to the yellow star.

The submission stats are still coming in from those that got a jab....this is the true test for submission. Getting the numbers of folks who have no clue what they are getting, but just trust the pharma companies and government to get the jab. These are the stats they are looking for.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

The mask wasn't the submission part.....that can't be tabulated. That was solely to see if folks would chastise others, similar to the yellow star. The submission stats are still coming in from those that got a jab....this is the true test for submission. Getting the numbers of folks who have no clue what they are getting, but just trust the pharma companies and government to get the jab. These are the stats they are looking for.

I think that was a given. Dr. Suess even wrote a book about how people respond to the stars upon thars, or not about thars. It must be coded in for our psyche.

Advertisers have been conditioning us to believe lies, not just lies but known lies, for decades. We daily spend money on crap that we know will not work that miracle it claims, so getting the masses to take an experimental vaccine required no real effort at all.

a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

In my opinion it didn't "escape" from the lab.

It was deliberately released.

a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

Unfortunately, the Daily Mail has a proven (and often unintentionally hilarious) track record of failing to grasp even the most basic of scientific concepts.

The same article that tells us there was no credible ancestor also tells us about some miners that caught it from guano in a cave.

File under: wait for a better source.