Anti-mask wearers are smarter than mask wearers, concludes MIT study.

a reply to: ScepticScot


For just Texas?

CDC: Mask Mandates Made No Statistical Difference
“Daily case and death growth rates before implementation of mask mandates were not statistically different from the reference period.”
By
Robert Montoya
March 13, 2021

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originally posted by: ScepticScot
If enough people where masks that are even partially effective that will have a positive effect in reducing cases.

But they are not even partially effective if the whole protocol isn't followed.

As I said if there is a better way to get that than mandates I would be all for it.

My point isn't about there being a better way. All I did was point out a reason why the conflicting data probably exists and that there is merit to both arguments because they are focusing on different aspects of the situation.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: ScepticScot
And I pointed out that proper use of masks, while effective, isn't guaranteed simply by enacting a mask mandate and that is why there is contradicting data.

It isn't but the issue isn't individual usage.

If enough people wear masks that are even partially effective that will have a positive effect in reducing cases.

As I said if there is a better way to get that than mandates I would be all for it.

So you assume, but I contend that mask wearing increases CO2 in the blood, weakens immunity, and may cause other respiratory illnesses, which could actually affect if someone gets seriously ill from Covid or not.

I say, breath fresh air, eat right, exercise, get sunlight, and do all the other things to keep yourself healthy, and that's the real way to beat covid and a number of other illnesses.

This thread turned from hilarious, to out right sad.

Report: ‘Mask mouth’ to blame for uptick in some serious oral health issues

While mask-wearing is mandatory in many public spaces and an essential tool in guarding against the spread of COVID-19, dentists have been seeing a rise in serious oral health issues since people began wearing masks for extended periods of time, according to a new report.

“Mask mouth” has become a trend since the beginning of the pandemic, with people developing bad breath, dry mouth, tooth decay, bleeding gums, mouth ulcers, and other oral health issues, a new report from Express Dentist indicates.

“Wearing a face mask can have serious consequences for oral health. However, avoiding this protective measure is not advisable, because of its critical role in slowing the spread of COVID-19,” the report stated.

The report identified a number of possible causes for mask mouth, including disruption of breathing, disruption of thermoregulation, dehydration, and breathing recycled air.

Gum disease could lead to a severe COVID-19 infection - May 21, 2021

The report was published in the US's leading organisation of periodontists, the American Academy of Periodontology (AAP)

August 12, 2020 - Who: Avoid Dental Cleanings and Other Routine Visits to the Dentist for Now

You should delay your routine dental cleaning until the coronavirus pandemic eases, according to new guidance from the World Health Organization.

Dentists, hygienists, and other oral care providers have a heightened risk of contracting COVID-19 and passing it to patients because “they are in close contact with their patients’ mouths, use spray-generating equipment that produces airborne particles, [and] are exposed to saliva, blood and body fluids,” WHO said.

Self Full Filling Prophecy on the WHO's and CDC's behalf

originally posted by: MetalThunder
The Maskers could be dealing with some KNOWN psychological issues as seen in this thread

I'm not sure what you mean by "maskers". Have you ever worn a mask?

a reply to: ScepticScot

Again. If you believe a mask protects you. Wear it, and don’t worry about other people you have no control over.

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: ScepticScot
If enough people where masks that are even partially effective that will have a positive effect in reducing cases.

But they are not even partially effective if the whole protocol isn't followed.

As I said if there is a better way to get that than mandates I would be all for it.

My point isn't about there being a better way. All I did was point out a reason why the conflicting data probably exists and that there is merit to both arguments because they are focusing on different aspects of the situation.

The majority of people seem to understand the basic concept of how to wear a mask. It doesn't need to be a hospital standard process to be effective.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ScepticScot

Again. If you believe a mask protects you. Wear it, and don’t worry about other people you have no control over.

Already covered that it isn't mainly about protecting yourself.

originally posted by: MetalThunder

Dentists, hygienists, and other oral care providers have a heightened risk of contracting COVID-19 and passing it to patients because “they are in close contact with their patients’ mouths, use spray-generating equipment that produces airborne particles, [and] are exposed to saliva, blood and body fluids,” WHO said.

“Mask mouth” has become a trend since the beginning of the pandemic, with people developing bad breath, dry mouth, tooth decay, bleeding gums, mouth ulcers, and other oral health issues, a new report from Express Dentist indicates.

So what causes this? Your mouth doesn't stop producing spit which is what keeps your mouth clean. While you sleep you can get a dry mouth and then get bad breath etc, but I'm not sure what they are getting at with this other than people not drinking at all the whole day I guess and so creating something like you get when you sleep.

2nd

originally posted by: IndieA

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: ScepticScot
And I pointed out that proper use of masks, while effective, isn't guaranteed simply by enacting a mask mandate and that is why there is contradicting data.

It isn't but the issue isn't individual usage.

If enough people wear masks that are even partially effective that will have a positive effect in reducing cases.

As I said if there is a better way to get that than mandates I would be all for it.

So you assume, but I contend that mask wearing increases CO2 in the blood, weakens immunity, and may cause other respiratory illnesses, which could actually affect if someone gets seriously ill from Covid or not.

I say, breath fresh air, eat right, exercise, get sunlight, and do all the other things to keep yourself healthy, and that's the real way to beat covid and a number of other illnesses.

This thread turned from hilarious, to out right sad.

You are entitled to your beliefs.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: MetalThunder
The Maskers could be dealing with some KNOWN psychological issues as seen in this thread

I'm not sure what you mean by "maskers". Have you ever worn a mask?

For Halloween

originally posted by: MetalThunder

For Halloween

You haven't gone into a store requiring it?

originally posted by: ScepticScot
The majority of people seem to understand the basic concept of how to wear a mask. It doesn't need to be a hospital standard process to be effective.

And yet there is data showing that in some places with mandated masks the rate of infection hasn't been statistically better.

That can only lead one to believe that in those places the majority of people didn't understand the basic concept. How else would you justify the data in those places?

a reply to: Xtrozero

I don't do Corporate stores - and my local ones never enforced - Michigan Thumb -

We made news a while back for not Complying - Wolverines !



Heads up - Move Along - I am - done with your curiosity LOL

originally posted by: MetalThunder

We made news a while back for not Complying - Wolverines !

Lol is that like a badge of honor? Do you also go into places with no shoes or shirt to prove a point? It seems there are two extreme sides in all this and both sides kind of suck.

a reply to: ArMaP

Mask or face shield, plus gloves. Alone in a car. I have seen a few people wearing mask and shield, but not alone in a car. Wouldn't surprise me to see it though.

The hysteria over here is literally akin to that during the Salem Witch Trials in certain places/times. Ironically, many of those panicking over others not wearing masks are also, at the same time, wearing theirs down off their nose.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ScepticScot

Again. If you believe a mask protects you. Wear it, and don’t worry about other people you have no control over.

Already covered that it isn't mainly about protecting yourself.

Personal protective equipment? What do you not get about the personal part.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: ArMaP

Mask or face shield, plus gloves. Alone in a car. I have seen a few people wearing mask and shield, but not alone in a car. Wouldn't surprise me to see it though.

The hysteria over here is literally akin to that during the Salem Witch Trials in certain places/times. Ironically, many of those panicking over others not wearing masks are also, at the same time, wearing theirs down off their nose.

TheRedneck

Try having a hey fever attack in public. A sneeze and a cough, and everyone looks at you like you are possessed.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: ScepticScot
If enough people where masks that are even partially effective that will have a positive effect in reducing cases.

But they are not even partially effective if the whole protocol isn't followed.

As I said if there is a better way to get that than mandates I would be all for it.

My point isn't about there being a better way. All I did was point out a reason why the conflicting data probably exists and that there is merit to both arguments because they are focusing on different aspects of the situation.

The majority of people seem to understand the basic concept of how to wear a mask. It doesn't need to be a hospital standard process to be effective.

Again...

Like I posted in this thread. From respiratory training, if you respiratory doesn’t seal against your face, it not going to protect you. And cheap procedure grade masks do not seal. Period.