I Fear the Future

A welcomed reply.... I spend perhaps too much time looking into all thats current and conspiratorial ...I hope many are right but their track record calls out for a corrction. Either way im prepared and will give it hell when that time comes. Thank you...a reply to: BlissSeeker

originally posted by: incoserv

Interesting video, I have heard that theory before but he explained it quite well and I think there's a lot of truth to it.

a reply to: Lucidparadox

A question I want you to ponder... and REALLY think about it...

Do you really think our media, video games, etc. are INFLUENCING with anti-capitalist narratives?

OR

and this is important..

Are our media, video games, etc. BEING INFLUENCED by the reality that our form of capitalism is broken?

Obviously I have considered the many reasons why these narratives are becoming more common. It's the same reason a lot of media is filled with other types of social justice narratives... the majority of people in these industries have the same ideologies which they desire to express to a wide audience.

Obviously it's not fair to say they are all completely wrong, there are certainly many flaws with modern capitalism and there are valid reasons to want things to change. The real issue is these people completely fail to see all the good aspects of capitalism and western culture in general... it's to the point where they despise seeing the flag of their own nation.

These are not the most mentally stable people regardless of how intelligent they may think they are, and they utterly fail to realize how their good intentions are paving a path straight into the bowels of hell. People in westernized nations typically have much higher living standards than other nations, in many ways we have achieved abundance.

Just because capitalism isn't perfect doesn't mean we should burn it all to the ground and replace it with extreme forms of socialism. Those systems always cause more poverty and suffering because they ignore basic economic principles. As I said, I've discussed all this before so I'm not going to get into another economic debate...

All I can say is I grew up in near-poverty and much of my family still struggles to get by from day to day... I understand what it's like when a parent can barely afford to feed their kids or pay the rent each week. But no amount of nanny-statism or social justice is going to solve those problems which are intrinsic to the existence of life it's self... sacrificing all individual liberty to achieve such a utopian pipe dream will be our greatest downfall.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

I don't mean to be crude, and I'm not an idiot so please don't think less of me for the statement to follow...

But if we aren't striving for some form of utopian pipe dream.. what's the point?

Progression, advancement, an idealism become a reality or constantly striving for it is what makes us human, it's what has gotten our human civilization this far.

Very few of us are saying burn it all down.

I think most of us lefties are just saying... Look at the Nordic countries, let's do whatever it takes to scale that and make it viable here. Where there's a will there's a way.

a reply to: Lucidparadox

But if we aren't striving for some form of utopian pipe dream.. what's the point?

I'm sorry but there is no such thing as Utopia, at least not in this reality. We need to be realistic and seek those solutions which are grounded in solid reasoning and evidence. Moreover, if a system requires the elimination of individual liberty, then it certainly cannot be labelled as a utopia.

Very few of us are saying burn it all down.

I would have agreed with this statement 4 or 5 years ago, before the age of hyper-partisan politics we now find ourselves in. Now we have actual politicians telling people to riot and be confrontational if they don't get what they want. This is a whole new level of craziness which involves people literally burning down cities... this is no longer just an isolated fringe group.

a reply to: Lucidparadox

I think most of us lefties are just saying... Look at the Nordic countries, let's do whatever it takes to scale that and make it viable here.

I'm not saying all forms of socialism are bad, it's extreme forms of socialism such as communism which always cause immense suffering and strip citizens of their freedoms. All modern economies are really a mix of socialism and capitalism, the real question is what ratios are really the most effective... at what point does high taxes and poor government spending damper economic growth, just how much of our freedoms are we willing to trade for safety, at what point does over-regulation prevent innovation and make it harder for small businesses to compete with the monopolies... the real core problem with these cartoon-level depictions of hyper-capitalist societies is that they instill a belief that corporations are always evil, which prevents any form of rational thinking, and leads to an ever growing anti-capitalist sentiment which is fueled by emotions and not facts or logic.

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder

As I've said before I'm not against the fundamental idea of socialism, all societies have some mix of socialism and capitalism. Police, fire-fighters, roads, etc are all social services that taxes pay for and they immensely benefit society. The problem arises when we allow socialism to undermine the proper functioning of capitalism. When socialism is taken too far you get a thing called communism, which is an extreme form of collectivism. The good of the community is always placed above the good of the individual.

There has never been a communist regime in the history of Earth which has achieved equality. In fact we always see the opposite thing occur, you get dictators with an immense amount of power over their population, who are usually very poor due to poor economies policies. This is why I find the growing disdain for capitalism and free speech so disturbing and so dangerous. We should never give up our individual liberty so that the government can keep us safe and treat us all like children.

a reply to: Bigbrooklyn